Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 September 8



Template:DisraeliRef

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) BethNaught (talk) 12:39, 16 September 2015 (UTC) Only 10 uses; should use the template:cite book style instead. Izno (talk) 22:09, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * DisraeliRef
 * Keep. I've converted it to use cite book; tranclusion count is at 15 and can easily be increased. Next time, how about you just drop a friendly note on my talk page, reminding me that I created this template ten years ago and did something dumb with substing? Mackensen (talk) 22:22, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, precedent is that we do not make work-specific ref templtes. Just subst with cite book. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:54, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * What precedent is that, and did anyone tell Category:Specific-source templates? I see these get kept all the time. Mackensen (talk) 10:38, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * keep; I think consensus should change. They are really nice, a save a lot of time. Christian75 (talk) 09:05, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per Mackensen. Lots of others exist, so we shouldn't delete it because the basic idea is bad, and if it's getting used fifteen times, that's easily enough to keep it.  Nyttend (talk) 21:00, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox historical American political party

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The result of the discussion was Delete and replace with Infobox political party. ~ RobTalk 20:30, 19 September 2015 (UTC) The template has been subject to some vandalism recently. The template is just a wrapper for Infobox political party. Currently, there are only 31 transclusions. Convert the 31 articles to use and delete this one. Bgwhite (talk) 20:11, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Infobox historical American political party


 * Delete per WP:INFOCOL - extremely thin wrapper. Basically, all it does is complicate the use of metal colour templates; pre-fill country; and split position between fiscal and social, which should've really been done in the parent infobox. Alakzi (talk) 20:17, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per Alakzi. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:37, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Heroes for Hire

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The result of the discussion was Fuller Template:Heroes for hire moved over this template as per Sawol below. DES (talk) 13:54, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Navbox with only two links, other than the title page NSH002 (talk) 19:42, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Heroes for Hire
 * Delete per WP:NENAN. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:54, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * met CSD T3 speedy deletion criteria of Heroes for hire. Sawol (talk) 09:55, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Champions

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) BethNaught (talk) 06:41, 16 September 2015 (UTC) Navbox with no links other than the title page NSH002 (talk) 19:40, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Champions
 * Delete per WP:NENAN. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:54, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong delete this template has nothing to do with champions so is not being used for the proper topic -- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 06:28, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That could be fixed by moving it; it's not a reason to delete. Alakzi (talk) 07:10, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * met CSD T3 speedy deletion criteria of Champions (comics). Sawol (talk) 09:55, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - A quick review of this template caused me to exclaim "huh?" out loud. Why do we have a navbox that consists of an empty shell?  This is just plain weird.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 11:27, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:ACC WikiLove Welcomer

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The result of the discussion was Delete without substituting, as the instructions are outdated. ~ RobTalk 20:34, 19 September 2015 (UTC) The user named in this template has been banned by Arbcom. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:06, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * ACC WikiLove Welcomer
 * Procedural keep Being banned by Arbcom is not grounds for deletion. I would ask that  please resolve the back-dependancies and references (i.e. Orphan the template) first before proposing deletion. Hasteur (talk) 18:19, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * There are no grounds for a "Procedural keep"; the sole purpose of the template is to ask people to contact one specific editor; and it is quite normal to make deletion decision, before orphaning a template. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:22, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * PROCEDURAL KEEP... What part of "Make sure it isn't being used" do you not understand? Hasteur (talk) 18:29, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I understand it perfectly, thanks. It's simply not required. What part of "it is quite normal to make deletion decision, before orphaning a template" do you not understand? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:47, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I want to emphasise Andy's point; it is putting the cart before the horse to suggest that a template must be orphaned before a TFD discussion can be opened, let alone closed. If this discussion reaches a "delete" outcome, the template will be sent to the TFD holding cell (WP:Templates for discussion/Holding cell) and orphaned there. — This, that and the other (talk) 13:19, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, as it serves no purpose but to misdirect anymore, unfortunately. Alakzi (talk) 18:56, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Move to userspace and update transclusions or as a less preferable choice, subst and delete -- Until/unless another user becomes the "home" of the ACC WikiLove script, the nominated template should remain visible, as T13 (and talk page watchers) remain the best people to assist with any issues relating to this script. ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  23:32, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. It appears that only 3 people are using this script, one of whom is banned (Technical 13 himself). There is no need for a loud message on template doc pages relating to a script used by so few people. — This, that and the other (talk)  13:17, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete without substing or moving. "The creator later got banned by Arbcom" is nowhere near a valid reason for deletion in most cases.  Different here: there's no point in notifying someone who's not allowed to edit, and when the template exists just to say "Notify this guy", there's no point to having the template.  Recreate/undelete should anyone else volunteer to take Technical 13's place.  Nyttend (talk) 22:24, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:WikiProject Horror tasks

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The result of the discussion was delete those which have not already been speedied. (non-admin closure) BethNaught (talk) 12:32, 16 September 2015 (UTC) Unused and redundant to Portal:Horror fiction/Things you can do, WikiProject Horror/to do, and WPAVIATION Announcements/Airports. Sawol (talk) 14:17, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Horror tasks
 * Airports tasks
 * WikiProject Airports tasks
 * WikiProjectCbTasks
 * Delete, because indeed they look redundant. I declined a T3 speedy deletion for the Horror tasks page because T3 is just for duplications of templates (not for duplicates of portal pages), which this wasn't.  Best just to allow that page, and the others, to get reviewed by interested people in case someone knows of a good reason before deletion.  Nyttend (talk) 17:51, 8 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete, as per Nyttend. Action Hero 03:36, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Audition Online Regions

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The result of the discussion was Relisted at Templates_for_discussion/Log/2015_September_28. ~ RobTalk 04:05, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Unused template, unlikely to be used again. (Level of detail is video game trivia) – czar   13:44, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Audition Online Regions
 * Unfollowing this page. Please ping me if you'd like a response. – czar   01:48, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Victorian rail line

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The result of the discussion was merge Infobox Victorian rail line into infobox rail line by making the two parameters universally available. (non-admin closure) BethNaught (talk) 06:30, 16 September 2015 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Infobox Victorian rail line with Template:Infobox rail line.
 * Infobox Victorian rail line
 * Infobox rail line

Redundant to Infobox rail line, with the exception of yearcommenced and yearcompleted, which should either be available universally, or not at all. Alakzi (talk) 12:44, 8 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:06, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom.  Sounder Bruce  17:35, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge. I believe that these two year parameters should be available everywhere.  If we don't do that, we might as well delete the template.  The name, too, is a problem; I thought it was going to be 1838-1901 railways, not southeast Australian railways.  Nyttend (talk) 17:52, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Heh, I thought the same the first time. Alakzi (talk) 18:57, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge – sure. As per nom and Nyttend. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:25, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge. Add the  parameters to Infobox rail line. And as per, I also thought it referred to the era not the province. Useddenim (talk) 10:13, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Lost on Belmont 3200N1000W (talk) 02:22, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:AshburtonNZ

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The result of the discussion was keep. JohnCD (talk) 17:47, 16 September 2015 (UTC) Unused template JMHamo (talk) 12:37, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * AshburtonNZ
 * Keep Not sure why it's never been used before, as it's useful. I've tidied it up a bit and added it to the relevant articles.  Schwede 66  18:52, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep it's in use now with several links. BethNaught (talk) 06:23, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:TransAdelaide Stations

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The result of the discussion was Relisting at Templates_for_discussion/Log/2015_September_28. ~ RobTalk 04:06, 28 September 2015 (UTC) TransAdelaide is defunct, and separate navboxes for all of the lines exist. Two transclusions. Alakzi (talk) 12:29, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * TransAdelaide Stations
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Template:Al-Arabi SC (Kuwait)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Khalid Sadeq's argument is invalid as the other template has been deleted and in any case "other stuff exists" does not trump the navbox guidelines. (non-admin closure) BethNaught (talk) 10:52, 25 September 2015 (UTC) Not a useful aid to navigation. Gives the impression that there are a number of related articles when in fact there are not. The history and Qadsia Records links go directly to an article on general Kuwaiti football club records, the Seasons link goes directly to the Kuwaiti Premier League article, whilst the rivalry links go only to the clubs in question, none of which actually discuss any rivalry. This is inherently unhelpful and confusing for any reader. Fenix down (talk) 10:10, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Al-Arabi SC (Kuwait)
 * Delete - per nom, does not aid navigation and should be deleted. JMHamo (talk) 15:27, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't Delete - you have left Qadsia SC's template which is nearly exactly the same why delete this and leave that I'm sorry but that's not fair and if it's not fully navigated ill try to make it better. Khalid Sadeq
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Template:Cite isbn/978055434607

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The result of the discussion was Delete as unopposed. ~ RobTalk 04:03, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Orphaned cite ISBN template. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 08:21, 24 Elul 5775 / 08:21, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Rotten Tomatoes score/0102558
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The result of the discussion was Relisted at Templates_for_discussion/Log/2015_September_28. ~ RobTalk 04:16, 28 September 2015 (UTC) This template is just a complex replacement for article text. We've had these kinds of templates years ago. There's a number of these templates but I'm starting with this one. It's being used at Nothing_but_Trouble_(1991_film) with the text from here hidden to fill out the values that it has "9"% approval rating based "11" with an average of "2/10" and then a citation (with an error in it). To fix the citation, someone would need to find this thing and parse it like I did here (which still didn't fix it I think). Ricky81682 (talk) 07:30, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Rotten Tomatoes score/0102558
 * This edit fixed the date problem. These sub-pages of Template:Rotten Tomatoes score are produced by Theo's Little Bot, task #22. Wbm1058 (talk) 13:55, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Just because it was approved doesn't mean it's in line with policy. Generally, "Templates should not normally be used to store article text. Such content belongs in the article pages themselves." is a pretty clear guideline. While it's useful to have common text, it doesn't mean that it should be stored in this format, namely subpages that store the text. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:25, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Cite pmid/10099806
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The result of the discussion was Delete. ~ RobTalk 20:36, 19 September 2015 (UTC) Orphaned cite pmid template. A search for the string "10099806" tells me that this is not a substitution of the template somewhere but a citation that isn't in use at all. Ricky81682 (talk) 06:15, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Cite pmid/10099806
 * Delete unused, WP:NOT Wikipedia is not a PubMed database -- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 07:11, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Ali Zafar
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The result of the discussion was delete. Opabinia regalis (talk) 01:56, 29 September 2015 (UTC) Not many entries are linked in the template and the most linked are to sub-sections of some film article or to the biography of the artist himself. Only direct links are in the filmography section. But through long consensus we do not make templates of filmographies of actors. Hence suggesting deletion of template. §§<i style="color:#E0115F;">Dharmadhyaksha</i>§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:47, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Ali Zafar
 * Keep - I suggest delete the filmography section but keep the rest. FudgeFury <font color="Cerise">(talk&#124;sign&#124;contribs) 17:27, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Rest are just redirects to those films which you are suggesting to delete. §§<i style="color:#E0115F;">Dharmadhyaksha</i>§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:09, 9 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - Ali Zafar is a popular singer/actor/musician. --<span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">Action <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">Hero 03:14, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Huh?! §§<i style="color:#E0115F;">Dharmadhyaksha</i>§§ {Talk / Edits} 03:59, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: User:Action Hero is blocked as a sockpuppet. §§<i style="color:#E0115F;">Dharmadhyaksha</i>§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:56, 21 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. There are no articles on the listed songs, only links to articles on the same films, thus making the navbox more of a filmography, which by consensus is strongly discouraged. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 05:02, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as per Star. This is a filmography with a bunch of extra redirects, basically. ~ RobTalk 20:39, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as useful.Fruitsseeds (talk) 04:27, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Huh?! §§<i style="color:#E0115F;">Dharmadhyaksha</i>§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:20, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: User:Fruitsseeds is blocked as a sockpuppet. §§<i style="color:#E0115F;">Dharmadhyaksha</i>§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:57, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Abkhazian parliamentary election, 2002
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The result of the discussion was Delete as unopposed. ~ RobTalk 04:18, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Orphaned template. Ricky81682 (talk) 04:48, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete. As the template is not in use, the discussion is closed per "no quorum" principle: after the normal time period, there are no objections to deletion of a template. Codename Lisa (talk) 08:13, 27 September 2015 (UTC) Orphand template and per this prior discussion. Ricky81682 (talk) 04:46, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Cite isbn/978081087489
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  21:15, 10 September 2015 (UTC) Orphaned cite isbn template page. Ricky81682 (talk) 04:43, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Cite wdl/3244
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The result of the discussion was Delete as unopposed. ~ RobTalk 04:00, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Orphaned cite wdl template subpage. Ricky81682 (talk) 00:08, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Cite wdl/7344
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The result of the discussion was Delete as unopposed. ~ RobTalk 04:00, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Orphaned cite wdl citation template subpage. Ricky81682 (talk) 00:08, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Cite isbn/978063117026
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The result of the discussion was Delete as unopposed. ~ RobTalk 04:00, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Orphaned cite ISBN template. Ricky81682 (talk) 00:06, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete as unopposed. ~ RobTalk 04:00, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Orphaned cite ISBN template. Ricky81682 (talk) 00:05, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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