Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2016 December 25



Culture of Country sidebars

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The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete all of them, although there seems to be some consensus that at least one of them is of little value Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:09, 8 January 2017 (UTC) large sidebars which duplicate the culture section in the corresponding footer navigation boxes. Frietjes (talk) 17:28, 18 December 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Culture of Albania
 * Culture of Andorra
 * Culture of Armenia
 * Culture of Austria
 * Culture of Azerbaijan
 * Culture of Belarus
 * Culture of Belgium
 * Culture of Bosnia and Herzegovina
 * Culture of Bulgaria
 * Culture of Croatia
 * Culture of Cyprus
 * Culture of the Czech Republic
 * Culture of Denmark
 * Culture of Estonia
 * Culture of Finland
 * Culture of France
 * Culture of Georgia (country)
 * Culture of Germany
 * Culture of Greece
 * Culture of Hungary
 * Culture of Iceland
 * Culture of Ireland
 * Culture of Italy
 * Culture of Kazakhstan
 * Culture of Latvia
 * Culture of Liechtenstein
 * Culture of Lithuania
 * Culture of Luxembourg
 * Culture of the Republic of Macedonia
 * Culture of Malta
 * Culture of Moldova
 * Culture of Monaco
 * Culture of Montenegro
 * Culture of the Netherlands
 * Culture of Norway
 * Culture of Poland
 * Culture of Portugal
 * Culture of Romania
 * Culture of Russia
 * Culture of San Marino
 * Culture of Serbia
 * Culture of Slovakia
 * Culture of Slovenia
 * Culture of Spain
 * Culture of Sweden
 * Culture of Switzerland
 * Culture of Turkey
 * Culture of Ukraine
 * Culture of the United Kingdom
 * Culture of Abkhazia
 * Culture of Kosovo
 * Culture of Nagorno-Karabakh Republic
 * Culture of Northern Cyprus
 * Culture of South Ossetia
 * Culture of Transnistria
 * Culture of Åland
 * Culture of the Faroe Islands
 * Culture of Gibraltar
 * Culture of Guernsey
 * Culture of the Isle of Man
 * Culture of Jersey
 * Culture of Svalbard
 * Oppose on technical grounds. The proposal is too far reaching at present time, because many articles which use the above templates do not display the footer.  Poeticbent  talk  18:26, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Poeticbent, clearly we can make conditions for deletion of these sidebars that (1) the corresponding footer template is on the page, and (2) any missing important links in the sidebar are merged into the footer templates.  the idea that the large scope of this nomination is a problem is counter to the advice given at this tfd which objected to the limited scope of nominating only one. Frietjes (talk) 14:28, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry to say that, but my position has not changed. The TFD you linked (above) and closed without consensus does not warrant the sheer scope of your current proposal. In my view, this is a make-work project of limited importance, created to keep a person from being idle. I would love to see what other Wikipedians think about this.  Poeticbent  talk 15:55, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * So, how big of a nomination is of appropriate scope? Frietjes (talk) 19:22, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose I fail to see any duplication here. Dimadick (talk) 11:14, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Dimadick, if you check the links in Culture of Albania and Albania topics, for example, you will see the duplication. the same is true for all the others. Frietjes (talk) 13:29, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * You say that these templates duplicate each other but the fact is that there are notable differences between them. The footer templates are very broad in terms of subject matter. They do not inspire further reading relevant to culture specifically. The footers offer only the bottom slots called  with links to parent articles. Meanwhile, the culture templates often include drop-down menus with additional links relevant to culture such as lists of World Heritage Sites, Authors, Poets, Artists, Painters etc.  Poeticbent  talk  18:32, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Poeticbent, thank you for confirming that there is duplicate navigation . the question is how to reduce the duplication.  the drop down navigation in Culture of Andorra is clearly not helpful, nor are the multiple redirects going to the same article.  I still await your reply to my question above. Frietjes (talk) 18:37, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Generally speaking, infobox templates as supposed to repeat information already present in the body of articles, per policy guidelines. They are not meant to include elements not confirmed elsewhere. The Culture of Andorra is an example of how things can go wrong. But look around. The Culture of the United States is a good example how the original culture template can work to the benefit of all readers.  Poeticbent  talk 19:03, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 18:19, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose The better culture templates tend to be more exhaustive. The scope for culture on topic templates has to be brief almost by definition. There is some reduplication of course but that's not the same thing as evidence of redundancy. The latter should warrant deletion. Shared content only appears to be a problem for those countries whose culture box is not yet well developed. -- Lestadii27 (talk) 08:18, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose too. I agree with the arguments presented above. Honestly, to me it appears that the culture templates are more beneficial than harmful. -- S ILENT R ESIDENT  22:32, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


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Template:Infobox open cluster

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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2017 January 8 Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:07, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Infobox open cluster
 * Infobox astronomical object
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Template:Knight's Cross recipients of the 15th PGD

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The result of the discussion was delete. REFUNDable if enough new pages are created. (non-admin closure) Primefac (talk) 18:37, 3 January 2017 (UTC) Insufficient navigation: template contains two entries. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:40, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Knight's Cross recipients of the 15th PGD
 * Delete per nom. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  16:24, 2 January 2017 (UTC)


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Template:Asian Cuisine

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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2017 January 6 (non-admin closure) Primefac (talk) 00:29, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Asian Cuisine
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