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Template:STY

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The result of the discussion was delete. BethNaught (talk) 08:00, 9 January 2016 (UTC) Barely used template to create background color in table row. Seem unnecessary. Wolbo (talk) 23:54, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * STY
 * Delete per nom. --Izno (talk) 14:48, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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College football all-time team navboxes

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The result of the discussion was relist to Jan 13. Primefac (talk) 20:23, 13 January 2016 (UTC) As discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football, these navboxes denote obscure all-time team selections that do not warrant stand-alone articles or navboxes. Jweiss11 (talk) 22:43, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 1912 Vanderbilt Commodores All-Time football navbox
 * 1932 Navy Midshipmen All-Time football navbox
 * 1935 Georgia Bulldogs All-Time football navbox
 * 1935 Illinois Fighting Illini All-Time football navbox
 * Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets All-Era football team navbox
 * Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets All-Era football team 2 navbox
 * Sewanee Tigers All-Time football navbox
 * Comment I will note some of the same things I noted there: The Georgia Tech and Sewanee navboxes represent teams regularly published in official publications. These were created some time ago, and are of a different kind IMO. Georgia Tech's boxes in particular; I would oppose their deletion. After the Navy box was made, I knew of other teams by George Trevor, and thus made the Georgia and Illinois boxes. As a similar but different case, I also made the Vandy box. In other words: If the Navy box deserves deletion, then so do Georgia and Illinois boxes at the least, and probably the Vandy box too. That was the point. However, I did not have Tech or Sewanee in mind, and had made those already for other reasons, and so am a bit more dogmatic about those staying. Cake (talk) 23:45, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Cake, thanks for the comment. The distinction you've offered up is understood and reasonable. However, I don't think the Georgia Tech and Sewanee navboxes past muster, nonetheless.  Is Everett Strupper's selection to the "Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets All-Era football team (John Heisman Era)" so key to his biographical identity that it deserves to be a dimension of navigation?  The heading of the Template:Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets All-Era football team navbox clicks through only to Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets football and John Heisman, and no mention is made in either of those two articles about this "All-Era" team.  We are left with no context about how this team was selected, when it was made, and who made it. Jweiss11 (talk) 20:02, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
 * That could be a flaw in the articles. Heisman's article would probably be enhanced by its mention. I grant you there is not much about the selection process, but like the Tech Hall of Fame it seems somehow to be issued by the university, e. g. here (page 155). I am also curious if the All-time Southeast teams are worthy of navboxes or articles.  To answer the  question, say if we get rid of the All-Southern navboxes, then I would wish somehow to connect Tommy Spence to Strupper. Cake (talk) 20:19, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Cake, the All-Southern articles are certainly notable, and I think the navboxes have merit if we consider this honor to be perhaps just be a smidgen below All-American. It was something of a regional All-American team, right, given the the main All-American teams of the day tended to have a bias toward Northeastern and Midwestern players?  If you want to connect Spencer and Strupper, shouldn't the body of each article make mention of the other, since the two played in the same backfield? Jweiss11 (talk) 03:36, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, from 1933 to 1952 it is like an early All-ACC team, and after that like All-Conference USA or All-Ohio Valley Conference or whatever; but until about 1932 it is something like as you say a smidgen below All-American. You can see some of that with the earliest Hall of Fame players linked on the All-Southern page and their profile on the Hall's site. Strupper is mentioned on Spence's article. You are right Strupper's would probably be enhanced by a mention, but I would not want to stick it in haphazardly, and Strupper is so large a figure for southern football then. There is much to cover. Spence is often neglected for mention of, say, Judy Harlan. Cake (talk) 22:20, 9 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete all - These navboxes fail multiple criteria of WP:NAVBOX, and the subject "honor" is neither major nor arguably notable per WP:GNG. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:13, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
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Template:Covert United States involvement in regime change

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The result of the discussion was relist to Jan 13. Primefac (talk) 20:21, 13 January 2016 (UTC) Template created to reflect the content of an article that no longer exists.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 19:49, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Covert United States involvement in regime change
 * Add the content to Central Intelligence Agency and subsequently delete the sidebar. --Izno (talk) 14:52, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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Template:Back to contents

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The result of the discussion was relist to Jan 13. Primefac (talk) 20:21, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
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Template:Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference men's soccer navbox

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Primefac (talk) 18:14, 13 January 2016 (UTC) Only has two links to articles on soccer/soccer teams related to the conference. The remaining links go to university articles or to articles on school athletic programs. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:55, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference men's soccer navbox


 * Delete as insufficient relevant articles appear available to make a template. Rubbish computer (Merry Christmas!: ...And a Happy New Year!) 16:24, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - This present navbox is deceptive in that most of the links are redirects to the parent athletic programs and the soccer-team-specific articles do not exist. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:18, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
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