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Template:NCAA Division I Women's Golf Championship

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:53, 19 November 2016 (UTC) WP:EXISTING -- only two links (the title and one year). Not enough to navigate... Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 20:19, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * NCAA Division I Women's Golf Championship
 * delete, can be recreated if more articles are written. Frietjes (talk) 15:57, 14 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:NCAA Rifle Championship

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:53, 19 November 2016 (UTC) WP:EXISTING -- three links if you count the title. Not enough to navigate. Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 20:01, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * NCAA Rifle Championship
 * delete, can be recreated if more articles are written. Frietjes (talk) 15:57, 14 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:NCAA Beach Volleyball Championship

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:53, 19 November 2016 (UTC) WP:EXISTING -- Two links... the title and 2016 article. Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 19:55, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * NCAA Beach Volleyball Championship
 * weak delete, provides little useful navigation, and can be trivially recreated if/when there are more articles. Frietjes (talk) 16:45, 19 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:2016 FIVB-Rexona Ades roster

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:02, 19 November 2016 (UTC) unused and broken Frietjes (talk) 19:35, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * 2016 FIVB-Rexona Ades roster
 * Delete WikiProject volleyball reached a consensus about team squads in a different format. This is part of an intricate group of templates copied from basketball formerly used only by Filipino editors. The other templates were already deleted. --Osplace 23:26, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:2016 FIVB-PSL All-Star roster

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:02, 19 November 2016 (UTC) unused and broken Frietjes (talk) 19:34, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * 2016 FIVB-PSL All-Star roster
 * Delete WikiProject volleyball reached a consensus about team squads in a different format. This is part of an intricate group of templates copied from basketball formerly used only by Filipino editors. The other templates were already deleted. --Osplace 23:26, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:PlayerVB2
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:16, 19 November 2016 (UTC) unused Frietjes (talk) 19:33, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * PlayerVB2
 * Delete WikiProject volleyball reached a consensus about team squads in a different format. This is part of an intricate group of templates copied from basketball formerly used only by Filipino editors. The other templates were already deleted. --Osplace 23:27, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:Bangkok Glass Volleyball Club roster
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:02, 19 November 2016 (UTC) unused and broken Frietjes (talk) 19:31, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Bangkok Glass Volleyball Club roster
 * Delete WikiProject volleyball reached a consensus about team squads in a different format. This is part of an intricate group of templates copied from basketball formerly used only by Filipino editors. The other templates were already deleted. --Osplace 23:26, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:TTT Riga roster
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The result of the discussion was merge with the article Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:22, 19 November 2016 (UTC) single-use and out-of-date, should be merged with the article if needed Frietjes (talk) 19:29, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * TTT Riga roster
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Template:Steaua CSM roster
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The result of the discussion was merge with the article Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:22, 19 November 2016 (UTC) single-use and out-of-date, should be merged with the article if needed Frietjes (talk) 19:28, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
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Template:SPO Rouen Basket current roster
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:15, 19 November 2016 (UTC) unused and out-of-date, should be merged with the article if needed Frietjes (talk) 19:28, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * SPO Rouen Basket current roster
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Template:Smart Gilas Pilipinas roster
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:15, 19 November 2016 (UTC) unused, should be merged with the article if needed Frietjes (talk) 19:27, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
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Template:Piratas de Quebradillas roster
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The result of the discussion was merge with the article Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:22, 19 November 2016 (UTC) single-use template, should be merged with the article Frietjes (talk) 19:26, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Piratas de Quebradillas roster
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Template:Pilipinas MX3 Kings roster
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The result of the discussion was merge with the article Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:22, 19 November 2016 (UTC) single-use and out-of-date, should be merged with the article if needed Frietjes (talk) 19:26, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
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Template:EWE Baskets Oldenburg roster
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The result of the discussion was merge with the article Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:22, 19 November 2016 (UTC) single-use template, should be merged with the article Frietjes (talk) 19:25, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * EWE Baskets Oldenburg roster
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Template:Mets de Guaynabo roster
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The result of the discussion was merge with the article Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:22, 19 November 2016 (UTC) single-use and out-of-date, should be merged with the article if needed Frietjes (talk) 19:25, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Mets de Guaynabo roster
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Template:Löwen Braunschweig roster
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The result of the discussion was merge with the article Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:22, 19 November 2016 (UTC) single-use, should be merged with the article if needed Frietjes (talk) 19:24, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Löwen Braunschweig roster
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Template:Leones de Ponce (basketball) roster
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The result of the discussion was merge with the article Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:22, 19 November 2016 (UTC) single-use and out-of-date, should be merged with the article if needed Frietjes (talk) 19:24, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Leones de Ponce (basketball) roster
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Template:Hi-Tech Bangkok City roster
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The result of the discussion was merge with the article Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:21, 19 November 2016 (UTC) single-use and out-of-date, if needed, should be merged with the article Frietjes (talk) 19:23, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi-Tech Bangkok City roster
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Template:Capitanes de Arecibo roster
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The result of the discussion was merge with the article Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:21, 19 November 2016 (UTC) single-use, should be merged with the article if needed Frietjes (talk) 19:22, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
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Template:Cangrejeros de Santurce roster
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The result of the discussion was merge with the article Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:21, 19 November 2016 (UTC) single-use, should be merged with the article, if needed. Frietjes (talk) 19:22, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
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Template:BK VEF Rīga roster
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:15, 19 November 2016 (UTC) single-use template, should be merged with the article Frietjes (talk) 19:21, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * BK VEF Rīga roster
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Template:BC Astana current roster
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:11, 19 November 2016 (UTC) out-of-date, should be either updated or deleted, but calling this the current roster is just wrong. Frietjes (talk) 19:21, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * BC Astana current roster
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Template:2008-09 Bowling Green Falcons women's basketball roster
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:04, 19 November 2016 (UTC) unused, old roster Frietjes (talk) 19:19, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * 2008-09 Bowling Green Falcons women's basketball roster
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Template:Donar roster
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The result of the discussion was merge with the article. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:04, 19 November 2016 (UTC) used on one page, should be merged with the article and deleted Frietjes (talk) 19:19, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Donar roster
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Template:Canada National Football Team roster
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:59, 19 November 2016 (UTC) out-of-date, if needed, can be merged with the parent article. Frietjes (talk) 19:18, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
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Template:Canada National Football Team staff
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:59, 19 November 2016 (UTC) out-of-date, if needed, can be merged with the parent article. Frietjes (talk) 19:17, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Canada National Football Team staff
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Template:European Sports Championships
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:58, 19 November 2016 (UTC) Not enough relevant links, WP:TOOSOON <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 17:37, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * European Sports Championships
 * delete, provides little useful navigation. Frietjes (talk) 16:44, 19 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:Sitticus
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:47, 19 November 2016 (UTC) according to Peter coxhead, "[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFrietjes&type=revision&diff=749034635&oldid=749029566 these have been agreed to be deleted]" Frietjes (talk) 13:18, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Sitticus
 * Heteropoda
 * Delete as per previous all recent discussions on genus templates: they have few uses; they duplicate lists of species in articles; they tend to be less well maintained than articles; and, most importantly, what species are included in a genus is a taxonomic opinion that needs sourcing, but such templates can't contain references, since they may duplicate those in the article or be in the wrong citation style. Peter coxhead (talk) 18:10, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per Peter coxhead's comments. Additionally, these templates are potentially misleading as readers might assume that they include all the species in the genus, rather than just those with articles (there are many species in the genera which lack articles) Plantdrew (talk) 17:57, 13 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:Sinopoda
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:47, 19 November 2016 (UTC) unused, and according to Peter coxhead, "[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFrietjes&type=revision&diff=749034635&oldid=749029566 these have been agreed to be deleted]" Frietjes (talk) 13:15, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Sinopoda


 * Delete as per Template:Sitticus above. Peter coxhead (talk) 18:12, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per Peter coxhead's comments. Additionally, this templates is potentially misleading as readers might assume that it includes all the species in the genus, rather than just those with articles (there are many species in the genus which lack articles) Plantdrew (talk) 17:57, 13 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:Trump
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The result of the discussion was History merge Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:58, 19 November 2016 (UTC) This has been split into several templates now, so this is unneeded. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 10:14, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Trump
 * Keep, redirect to Trump family or one of Donald Trump, Trump businesses, Trump presidency or Donald Trump series. We shouldn't destroy the page history and thus the work of fellow editors. --SI 11:16, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, to be used on Trump family members and the Trump organization, etc., especially regarding the properties and endeavors. And there is no need for the business or presidency templates, which are covered by the new Donald Trump template (consistent with all other U.S. president templates). Randy Kryn 13:00, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete – Contents have been fully re-used in the split templates Trump businesses, Trump family, Trump media and Trump presidency and the largest two of those navboxes have subsequently been fully reorganized and updated for accuracy of coverage. All articles that used Trump have been reassigned the appropriate navbox, so that Trump is now unused and obsolete. The new Donald Trump was independently developed and is a work in progress; its goal would be to provide an overview of all things Trump, while the split templates provide details. I wouldn't mind a redirect to Donald Trump to preserve page history if that's what the majority settles on. — JFG talk 15:52, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for starting new
 * Template:Trump media
 * Template:Trump businesses
 * Template:Trump presidency
 * and overhauling Template:Trump family
 * by re-using content of Template:Trump. Unfortunately, the WP:CWW guideline was not properly followed, can you please arrange a history merge to fix that. (Imho it would have been much easier to just reduce and move the Trump to the Trump family, then the 1-edit redirect would have been an uncontroversial deletion.) Still, deleting or hiding the page history isn't very respectful towards fellow contribors. --SI 17:20, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, as an redirect. Delete after all pages which uses the template had transferred to either of its successor templates.-- 1233 <sup style="color:green;">Talk 07:30, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment If we wanted these split, this history should be merged with whichever one is largest.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:09, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * redirect or history merge if feasible. Frietjes (talk) 16:44, 19 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:World Matchplay (snooker)
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:44, 19 November 2016 (UTC) WP:NENAN. Only one existing article is linked in the template. Armbrust The Homunculus 03:03, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * World Matchplay (snooker)
 * delete, provides little useful navigation. Frietjes (talk) 16:43, 19 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:Coiq
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:43, 19 November 2016 (UTC) We had a wide ranging policy discussion about username issues a few years ago, and the results indicated that this template should be considered deprecated. Essentially, the issue was that it was being used to retroactively turn a username soft block into a hard block, unilaterally overriding the judgement of the blocking admin and creating a further barrier to the blocked user even though they had endeavored in good faith to change their username to something more acceptable. That being the case, I would suggest that this template basically contradicts policy and consensus and should be deleted. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:15, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Coiq

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 * Comment - This was originally created as User:Bwilkins/coiq (now User:DangerousPanda, though they haven't edited for a couple of years), and I copied it into template space for general use. As user name blocks are not something I involve myself with now, I don't use this template and therefore I'm neutral on whether it should be deleted or not. Optimist on the run (talk) 23:41, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

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 * I'd like to ask that if no serious objections arise and there continues to be little to no participation here, that his be closed as a delete, due to the pre-existing consensus indicated in the nomination. Beeblebrox (talk) 02:39, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * delete, problematic per nom. Frietjes (talk) 13:17, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:Needs table
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The result of the discussion was no consensus to merge, but feel free to reword them as suggested. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:41, 20 November 2016 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Needs table with Template:List to table.
 * Needs table
 * List to table

Same issue. KATMAKROFAN (talk) 23:33, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

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 * Oppose Completely different functions. I think this will end up as a snow closure too. Debresser (talk) 00:23, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Snow Oppose Not good idea, Aswell this end soon. ~ Junior5a   (Talk)   Cont  01:12, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge. Very similar templates. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:16, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, but change text of one template The text of the templates is almost the same, but the title clearly indicates different functions. I propose to change the text of Needs table and remove the words "as opposed to a list" from it, and then the difference will be clear. Debresser (talk) 12:42, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

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 * Merge Both suggest the same result. Keri (talk) 23:47, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

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 * merge, per above. both are aiming for the same thing. Frietjes (talk) 13:16, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * These are clearly different. One is a conversion, one is an addition. Although the addition one need re-writing. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 20:41, 13 November 2016 (UTC).


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Template:Yugoslavia squad - 1967 FIBA World Championship for Women
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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2016 November 20 ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 04:05, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Yugoslavia squad - 1967 FIBA World Championship for Women
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