Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2016 October 29



Template:Tfd-mbox

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob 13 Talk 23:29, 5 November 2016 (UTC) Non-helpful tfd notice that should be incorporated as a possible value for the type parameter in tfd if kept. P p p er y 23:21, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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Template:DNA2016riders

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The result of the discussion was keep for now Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:08, 7 November 2016 (UTC) Template only used once, in List of 2016 UCI Women's Teams and riders. Text can be transcluded there. The Banner talk 22:22, 10 October 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * DNA2016riders
 * Keep template used twice at the moment. Part of a series of Cycling team templates. Sander.v.Ginkel (Talk) 07:52, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * So, you suggest that I nominate all the templates of this text-only templates? I have only nominated the ones with link to disambiguation pages, but I am willing to nominate the whole series. The argument "part of a series" is contrary to the mantra "every article (in this case template) is judged on its own merits". The Banner talk 12:14, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * They're in the same vein as the templates used for other squads, such as the ones that make up the Football at the 2016 Summer Olympics – Men's team squads article, for example.  Lugnuts  Precious bodily fluids 12:30, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per Sander. These templates are part of a bigger established series.  Lugnuts  Precious bodily fluids 08:19, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

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 * keep for now, and merge/delete once the season is over. going forward, it would probably be good to use Help:LST to avoid the need to create all these single-season rider list templates, but still have the benefit of having the information in one place. Frietjes (talk) 15:47, 31 October 2016 (UTC)


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Template:GPC2013riders
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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2016 November 7 Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:08, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
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Template:GPC2014riders
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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2016 November 7 Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:08, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
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Template:OGE2016riders
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The result of the discussion was keep for now Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:07, 7 November 2016 (UTC) Template only used once, in List of 2016 UCI Women's Teams and riders. Text can be transcluded there. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 22:22, 10 October 2016 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * OGE2016riders
 * Keep template used twice at the moment. Part of a series of Cycling team templates. Sander.v.Ginkel (Talk) 07:53, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per Sander. These templates are part of a bigger established series.  Lugnuts  Precious bodily fluids 08:19, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

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 * keep for now, and merge/delete once the season is over. going forward, it would probably be good to use Help:LST to avoid the need to create all these single-season rider list templates, but still have the benefit of having the information in one place. Frietjes (talk) 15:46, 31 October 2016 (UTC)


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Template:OPW2014riders
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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2016 November 7 Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:08, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
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Template:PAC2016riders
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The result of the discussion was keep for now Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:07, 7 November 2016 (UTC) Template only used once, in List of 2016 UCI Women's Teams and riders. Text can be transcluded there. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 22:21, 10 October 2016 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * PAC2016riders
 * Keep template used twice at the moment. Part of a series of Cycling team templates. Sander.v.Ginkel (Talk) 07:53, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per Sander. These templates are part of a bigger established series.  Lugnuts  Precious bodily fluids 08:19, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

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 * keep for now, and merge/delete once the season is over. going forward, it would probably be good to use Help:LST to avoid the need to create all these single-season rider list templates, but still have the benefit of having the information in one place. Frietjes (talk) 15:47, 31 October 2016 (UTC)


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Template:TIB2014riders
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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2016 November 7 Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:08, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
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Template:TPO2013riders
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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2016 November 7 Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:08, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
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Template:UHC2016riders
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The result of the discussion was keep for now Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:07, 7 November 2016 (UTC) Template only used once, in List of 2016 UCI Women's Teams and riders. Text can be transcluded there. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 22:20, 10 October 2016 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * UHC2016riders
 * Keep template used twice at the moment. Part of a series of Cycling team templates. Sander.v.Ginkel (Talk) 07:54, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per Sander. These templates are part of a bigger established series.  Lugnuts  Precious bodily fluids 08:19, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

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 * keep for now, and merge/delete once the season is over. going forward, it would probably be good to use Help:LST to avoid the need to create all these single-season rider list templates, but still have the benefit of having the information in one place. Frietjes (talk) 15:47, 31 October 2016 (UTC)


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Template:U-boat War Badge with Diamonds
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The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 23:22, 5 November 2016 (UTC) Template comparable to recently deleted template "Combined Pilots-Observation Badge with Diamonds"; pls see TfD discussion.
 * U-boat War Badge with Diamonds

The article U-boat War Badge lists the recipients of the Diamond award and is sufficient. K.e.coffman (talk) 22:28, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  02:44, 5 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:Playmates of 1961
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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:06, 7 November 2016 (UTC) Navigation templates are supposed to help you navigate between multiple articles. This template effectively gives you a choice between Christa Speck and List of Playboy Playmates of 1961 (11x). In this state superfluous. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 11:36, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Playmates of 1961
 * Alternative to removal: remove the links to the playmates, leaving only the part the links to the "List of Playboy Playmates of ...". <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 18:54, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

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 * Procedural keep. We really need to be looking at all of these similar templates, of which there are many. I think they should all be merged to one template, which only contains the different year articles, but I'd prefer a single mass-nomination to handle that. Would you be good with that, ? ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 21:41, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

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 * Procedural delete See below // Original comment -- yes, others are questionable too, but that's not a reason to keep this one. Most of the links in the templates are not to individual articles, but instead are to monthly sections of annual collection of playmates. The list article themselves look like fancruft, with such intricate detail as Hips/Bust/Waist measurements. By looking at this as a test case, that's a delete for me. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:20, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The reason I want these considered together is because we've had many cases at TfD and CfD where things are brought up at separate times and get two different outcomes. This often happens when different groups of editors happen to show up to the second related discussion. When that happens, we're left with a situation where, for instance, this 1961 template is deleted but all the others are kept. I think it's obvious that's the worst possible outcome, since it doesn't please either side and is horribly inconsistent. ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 07:19, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Procedural keep (in view of above) but implement the nom's suggestion to "remove the links to the playmates, leaving only the part the links to the "List of Playboy Playmates of ...". 07:33, 5 November 2016 (UTC)K.e.coffman (talk)
 * Comment, that basically leaves you with Playboy Playmates by year, so you're effectively saying that you want to delete the nominated template and replace it with this one. Primefac (talk) 00:30, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I suppose this is also relevant to - thoughts? Primefac (talk) 00:31, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


 * keep since we aren't considering the entire series. Frietjes (talk) 13:11, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:Calendar, clock, date and time computing templates
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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2016 November 5 ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 23:22, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
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Template:Cypriot Third Division
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The result of the discussion was Keep ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 23:21, 5 November 2016 (UTC) Unsourced and not part of the highest level of football. As well as every page in the "seasons". Pyrusca (talk) 18:28, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Cypriot Third Division


 * Keep. I have added sources to all seasons. Some of them already had. Cypriot Third Division is the third national level of Cypriot football league system. Just remember that for English football league system we have articles for 8th and 10th level 2016–17 Northern Premier League and 2016–17 West Midlands (Regional) League Premier Division. Xaris333 (talk) 18:42, 29 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. Cypriot Third Division is one of the three main divisions of the Cypriot football which are organized by Cyprus Football Association. It is not a regional league competition to be considered as not significant. It is the 3rd highest league of the country, and teams from all around Cyprus are participating. That level of competitions i believe that are matching wikipedia rules, and as i know many similar articles (for other countries football competitions) already exist without any of them to be proposed for deletion. Also, since sources were added to all Cypriot Third Division "seasons" articles, i believe that the articles are OK and complete, so there is no any reason now to be deleted. Marios26 (talk) 17:33, 31 October 2016 (UTC)


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Template:Knight's Cross recipients of the Bundesheer
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The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 23:17, 5 November 2016 (UTC) Template that is very similar and / or a subset of the template recently deleted at TfD: Templates_for_discussion/Log/2016_October_11. Should be likewise deleted. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:11, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Knight's Cross recipients of the Bundesheer
 * Delete an intersection of two categories that isn't useful to the encyclopedia. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:31, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete, again, I am sure it was made in good faith, but with that said, delete, per above reasoning stated, being a "unnecessary concoction". Kierzek (talk) 15:58, 1 November 2016 (UTC)


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Template:Cork NHL Team 1972
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:12, 29 October 2016 (UTC) content is an exact copy of Cork NHL Team 1974, including the title. Frietjes (talk) 21:26, 21 October 2016 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Cork NHL Team 1972

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 * Delete -- perhaps created in error? K.e.coffman (talk) 05:14, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:12, 29 October 2016 (UTC) old and unused. Frietjes (talk) 17:54, 21 October 2016 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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 * Delete as not useful. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:15, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:13, 29 October 2016 (UTC) old and unused. Frietjes (talk) 17:48, 21 October 2016 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:14, 29 October 2016 (UTC) provides little navigation. Frietjes (talk) 17:45, 21 October 2016 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Secondary Schools

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 * Delete -- templates are supposed to be for navigation, not for decoration. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:16, 29 October 2016 (UTC)


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Template:Sidebar Entertainment industry in Puerto Rico
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:14, 29 October 2016 (UTC) no parent article. Frietjes (talk) 16:45, 21 October 2016 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Sidebar Entertainment industry in Puerto Rico

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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2016 November 5 ~ Rob 13 <sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">Talk 23:13, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
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