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Template:Article probation

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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2017 April 22 Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 17:08, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Article probation
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Template:Higher education in Uman

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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2017 April 22 Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 17:09, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Higher education in Uman
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Template:KNUTE

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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2017 April 22 Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 17:09, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * KNUTE
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Template:Higher education in Crimea

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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2017 April 22 Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 17:09, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Higher education in Crimea
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Template:Çankaya University

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 16:47, 22 April 2017 (UTC) Not useful for navigation, all links direct to the main article Aloneinthewild (talk) 21:13, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Çankaya University
 * Delete per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 22:11, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


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Template:Rectors of Boğaziçi University
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:46, 22 April 2017 (UTC) Not enough active links for navigation Aloneinthewild (talk) 21:05, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Rectors of Boğaziçi University
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Template:Institutes of Technology in Turkey
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The result of the discussion was Delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:46, 22 April 2017 (UTC) provides navigation to only two pages, links can be used instead Aloneinthewild (talk) 21:00, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Institutes of Technology in Turkey
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Template:Avisummarybytype
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The result of the discussion was Delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:40, 22 April 2017 (UTC) Adds no value to the article, preset total names dont always fit the types listed in the article and is unlikely to be used as the current list of aircraft is sufficient, use has been discussed at WT:AIRCRAFT MilborneOne (talk) 13:47, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Avisummarybytype


 * Delete: In the modern world of multirole aircraft any division of production into a rigid set of roles such as these is nigh-on meaningless. It is also common enough to see a mid-life change of role, which raises further difficulties. Also, a table with a single row of data is just appalling presentation, almost anything else would be better, but I can see no justification for such a list of statistics anyway. Breakdown of production numbers by subtype is the usual approach and is both far more useful and more easily verified. &mdash; Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 17:55, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: Not well designed, doesn't present information in a useful manner. - Ahunt (talk) 20:53, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


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Template:Crystal
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The result of the discussion was merge Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:09, 22 April 2017 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Crystal with Template:Speculation.
 * Crystal
 * Speculation

They both link to the same policy (WP:CRYSTAL) and doesn't put them in Category:Articles containing predictions or speculation    12:30, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge By keeping the text of Crystal, which I think is a bit better, but merge it into Speculation, which has the clearer name and a section template and an inline template as well. Debresser (talk) 14:37, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge per Debresser. We may call it WP:CRYSTAL, but the average editor seeing this fairly obvious problem in an article may not. – Train2104 (t • c) 17:36, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge conditional on keeping Crystal wording, and updating Twinkle . Widefox ; talk 12:14, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Twinkle does not support either template. – Train2104 (t • c) 15:03, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed, struck. Widefox ; talk 03:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


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Template:Viral life cycle
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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2017 April 22 Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:10, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Viral life cycle
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Template:Infobox officeholder/Personal data
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The result of the discussion was Delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:34, 22 April 2017 (UTC) Deprecated template. Dabao qian (talk) 04:32, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Infobox officeholder/Personal data
 * Keep and tag it with Deprecated template. That is what Deprecated template is for, and has the additional advantage of showing editors where to find a replacement template. Especially in this case, where the template is still used on a few user pages. Debresser (talk) 14:23, 12 April 2017 (UTC) As a subtemplate that was made redundant in this edit, might as well be deleted. Debresser (talk) 20:43, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


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Template:Infobox Jewish leader
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The result of the discussion was keep. Primefac (talk) 15:46, 21 April 2017 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Infobox Jewish leader with Template:Infobox religious biography.
 * Infobox Jewish leader
 * Infobox religious biography

and creating a redirect as Jewish leader is also a religious biography just like Hindu leader, Buddhist leader and Jain leader. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capankajsmilyo (talk • contribs) 04:10, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose for many reasons:
 * 1. Equality. If this template should be merged then so should
 * Infobox Christian leader
 * Infobox clergy
 * Infobox Hindu leader (which contrary to the nominator's claim was not merged.
 * Infobox Latter Day Saint biography
 * Infobox rebbe
 * Infobox Muslim leader
 * and likely also
 * Infobox saint
 * Muslim saints
 * 2. Infobox Jain ascetic was merged (with a 2:1 vote, something I would have relisted) among other reasons because it had only 16 transclusions, while this infobox has 445!
 * 3. Each religion has their own special parameters, that are not in common with other religions.
 * 4. I see nothing wrong with having an infobox per religion.
 * 5. Infobox Buddhist biography was indeed merged in 2009, but the discussion does not show how many transclusions it had.
 * 6. Each merge made major adaptations necessary, and I think that keeping specific templates makes for clearer and better coding than one monster template for all religions. Debresser (talk) 11:12, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Oppose In theory, if we were starting an encyclopedia from scratch, we might wish to create a single infobox for the biographies of all leaders and other important figures of all religions. That ship sailed long ago. As Debresser suggested, there are now specific infoboxes with specialized parameters for the leaders of many of the world's major religions. I think it's too late to put the genie back in the bottle. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:19, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose largely because of what Debresser said, it probably would just be easier to keep the templates as is currently to avoid confusion. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 22:18, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose. A "Jewish leader" is, in my view, a better template for representing important Jewish personages than one entitled simply "Religious biography." Therefore, I am against any merger in this case.Davidbena (talk) 17:44, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
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