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Template:Tarō Araki

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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2017 April 26 Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 03:08, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Tarō Araki
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Template:Swtrial

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G2 by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:05, 16 April 2017 (UTC) This almost looks like a test page, but given how old this (and that the author is still active) is I'm going to bring it here. Unused, not even in userspace. Is there any point in marking this historical as opposed to deleting it? – Train2104 (t • c) 19:37, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Swtrial
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Template:Translating with Google into Welsh

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 17:07, 24 April 2017 (UTC) An...interesting user warning template that uses example Google Translate output to demonstrate how bad it is to use machine translation. But this is written for a user translating English -> Welsh, so I'm not sure what purpose this has on English Wikipedia. – Train2104 (t • c) 19:30, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Translating with Google into Welsh
 * delete, I would think this would be on the Welsh wikipedia. Frietjes (talk) 14:48, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Station exits

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  23:00, 17 April 2017 (UTC) A boilerplate sentence for stating suburban station ridership. We have several different change arrow templates, there's no need to do it this way. Unused. – Train2104 (t • c) 19:24, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Station exits
 * Delete - I agree with the nom's rational and cannot see that this could be of much use. Dunarc (talk) 19:12, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Jim Brown Award

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 17:08, 24 April 2017 (UTC) Navbox cruft; low-end college football award that receives negligible press coverage. Not a career-defining award, and hardly ever mentioned in the body of articles. The award is one of many given by the Touchdown Club of Columbus, and a list of winners is given on that page. Lizard (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Jim Brown Award
 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, navbox creep. Frietjes (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Sammy Baugh Trophy

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 17:08, 24 April 2017 (UTC) Navbox cruft; low-end college football award that receives negligible press coverage. Not a career-defining award, and hardly ever mentioned in the body of articles. The award is one of many given by the Touchdown Club of Columbus, and a list of winners is given on that page. Lizard (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sammy Baugh Trophy
 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, navbox creep. Frietjes (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Paul Warfield Trophy

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 17:09, 24 April 2017 (UTC) Navbox cruft; low-end college football award that receives negligible press coverage. Not a career-defining award, and hardly ever mentioned in the body of articles. The award is one of many given by the Touchdown Club of Columbus, and a list of winners is given on that page. Lizard (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Paul Warfield Trophy
 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, navbox creep. Frietjes (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Jack Lambert Award

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 17:09, 24 April 2017 (UTC) Navbox cruft; low-end college football award that receives negligible press coverage. Not a career-defining award, and hardly ever mentioned in the body of articles. The award is one of many given by the Touchdown Club of Columbus, and a list of winners is given on that page. Lizard (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Jack Lambert Award
 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, navbox creep. Frietjes (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Jack Tatum Trophy

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 17:10, 24 April 2017 (UTC) Navbox cruft; low-end college football award that receives negligible press coverage. Not a career-defining award, and hardly ever mentioned in the body of articles. The award is one of many given by the Touchdown Club of Columbus, and a list of winners is given on that page. Lizard (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Jack Tatum Trophy
 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, navbox creep. Frietjes (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * delete per redundancy on page --Cs california (talk) 07:03, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Archie Griffin Award

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 17:10, 24 April 2017 (UTC) Navbox cruft; low-end college football award that receives negligible press coverage. Not a career-defining award, and hardly ever mentioned in the body of articles. The award is one of many given by the Touchdown Club of Columbus, and a list of winners is given on that page. Lizard (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Archie Griffin Award
 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, navbox creep. Frietjes (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Chic Harley Award

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 17:10, 24 April 2017 (UTC) Navbox cruft; low-end college football award that receives negligible press coverage. Not a career-defining award, and hardly ever mentioned in the body of articles. The award is one of many given by the Touchdown Club of Columbus, and a list of winners is given on that page. Lizard (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Chic Harley Award
 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, navbox creep. Frietjes (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Kellen Moore Award

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 17:10, 24 April 2017 (UTC) Navbox cruft; low-end college football award that receives negligible press coverage. Not a career-defining award, and hardly ever mentioned in the body of articles. The award is one of many given by the Touchdown Club of Columbus, and a list of winners is given on that page. Lizard (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Kellen Moore Award
 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, navbox creep. Frietjes (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Ozzie Newsome Award

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 17:10, 24 April 2017 (UTC) Navbox cruft; low-end college football award that receives negligible press coverage. Not a career-defining award, and hardly ever mentioned in the body of articles. The award is one of many given by the Touchdown Club of Columbus, and a list of winners is given on that page. Lizard (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Ozzie Newsome Award
 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, navbox creep. Frietjes (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:College Football Freshman of the Year
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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 17:11, 24 April 2017 (UTC) Navbox cruft; low-end college football award that receives negligible press coverage. Not a career-defining award, and hardly ever mentioned in the body of articles. The award is one of many given by the Touchdown Club of Columbus, and a list of winners is given on that page. Lizard (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * College Football Freshman of the Year
 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, navbox creep. Frietjes (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Woody Hayes Coach of the Year
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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 17:11, 24 April 2017 (UTC) Navbox cruft; low-end college football award that receives negligible press coverage. Not a career-defining award, and hardly ever mentioned in the body of articles. The award is one of many given by the Touchdown Club of Columbus, and a list of winners is given on that page. Lizard (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Woody Hayes Coach of the Year
 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, navbox creep. Frietjes (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Sam Nicola Award
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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 17:11, 24 April 2017 (UTC) Navbox cruft; low-end college football award that receives negligible press coverage. Not a career-defining award, and hardly ever mentioned in the body of articles. The award is one of many given by the Touchdown Club of Columbus, and a list of winners is given on that page. Lizard (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sam Nicola Award
 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * delete, navbox creep. Frietjes (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Politics of Vatican City
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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2017 April 26 Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:08, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Politics of Vatican City
 * Politics of the Holy See
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Template:Sahaba's ancestors
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Primefac (talk) 17:16, 24 April 2017 (UTC) TfD reason #3: unused and unlikely to be used, considering the huge size and confusing layout. Violates WP:NOTGENEALOGY. --HyperGaruda (talk) 06:37, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sahaba's ancestors
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Template:Elizabeth Gillies
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The result of the discussion was Delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 18:53, 22 April 2017 (UTC) Not used in any articles Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:29, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Elizabeth Gillies
 * Delete – in addition to be useless, it was created by a now-indeffed socker. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:10, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not enough links to be useful.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 15:19, 18 April 2017 (UTC)


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Template:Sofia Carson
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The result of the discussion was Delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 18:52, 22 April 2017 (UTC) Template not used in any articles Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:24, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sofia Carson
 * Delete – in addition to be useless, it was created by a now-indeffed socker. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:11, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - it's a pretty useless template as most of the links are redirects, and it only has two articles that are actually directly relevant (the eponymous article and "Love is the Name"). If she does more independent work in the future, I think it could make sense to recreate the template, but at this moment, it's just not necessary or useful. -- Irn (talk) 15:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per Irn and IJBall.  Montanabw (talk) 08:08, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not enough links to be useful.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 15:19, 18 April 2017 (UTC)


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Template:Category handler/numbered
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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2017 April 26 Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:08, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Category handler/numbered
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Template:Tamil films
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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 17:15, 24 April 2017 (UTC) Feels redundant to Template:Tamil cinema, and it also falls under Category:Film country list navigational boxes, for which we have Template:Indian film list. Kailash29792  (talk)  06:53, 6 April 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Tamil films
 * comment and Template:Tamil cinema feels redundant to Template:Indian film list. I agree that we don't need both a sidebar and a navbox on the same page providing the same navigation, but it's not clear to me which one we want to keep. Frietjes (talk) 15:50, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The one below. That's why I tagged this one for deletion. -- Kailash29792   (talk)  08:08, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

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 * Merge I like the format of Template:Tamil films but Template:Tamil cinema has some additional content so get rid of one of them would be fine. --Cs california (talk) 07:10, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge All links are covered in the Tamil Cinema template. --Skr15081997 (talk) 08:54, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Quantico (TV series)
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The result of the discussion was Delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:01, 22 April 2017 (UTC) Not enough content for an infoox. The link to FBI Academy isn't related to the series, and the characters link is a redirect. --  Alex TW 22:16, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Quantico (TV series)
 * delete, and replace with simple "see also" links. Frietjes (talk) 14:16, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Probably just about enough links to be useful.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 07:49, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * How so? The three links in the first row are all available on the LoE article, and Alex Parrish is available on the main article. There's no need for this template, it gives nothing extra. --  Alex TW 07:54, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:NENAN suggests a "rule of five". This meets that.  And please stop removing the template from the included articles until the outcome of this TFD is known.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 08:17, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The very title of WP:NENAN describes this case perfectly: Not everything needs a navbox. That is an essay, not a guideline or policy, and it still fails this "rule of five": are there presently at least five articles (not counting the primary article) on which your navbox will be used? No, there is not. Season 1, Season 2, Episodes, Parrish. If not, then you probably don't need a navbox just yet. Nor does this cover the absolute minimum number of links that this navbox provide - this template does not provide anything that the articles do not. Concerning your recent reverts to add the template, just as we revert unnecessary additions to prose, tables, infoboxes, etc., this applies to templates as well. It's unnecessary to include in the article - templates and navboxes don't just get an instant right to addition. The result of this TfD does not affect the exclusion of the navbox. As with all policy and style suggestions, common sense and consensus should prevail. --  Alex TW 08:23, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hence my "weak keep". And no, whilst the template exists, it should be transcluded on the articles in order to perform its usual function (and also to demonstrate to !voters here how it is employed).  --Rob Sinden (talk) 08:26, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You addressed none of the points that I just raised. It would be so kind of you if you did so. And again, it has no function, as it does nothing more than the articles do right now. Just as we would revert a cast table instead of a prose listing, as it's unnecessary, we should do the same. --  Alex TW 08:29, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Pinging you again, . --  Alex TW 05:17, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't have much to add. There are navboxes with less entries out there.  I've !voted for a weak keep.  If it stays, it stays, if it goes, it goes, but while it still exists, it remains transcluded on the included pages so that it can perform its function.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 07:58, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * What guideline or policy can you link that states that if the navbox exists, it must be included? It's not doing any particular job, given that the currently existing articles are already doing said job. --  Alex TW 08:21, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * This is simply how a navbox works. You're making too big a deal out of this.  Just wait for the outcome of the TFD, it will probably get deleted anyway...  --Rob Sinden (talk) 08:33, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Then if it's going to be deleted, then it probably isn't required in the articles. --  Alex TW 08:36, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * At the moment, I don't think you can reach the episode or season articles from Alex Parrish without the navbox. --Rob Sinden (talk) 08:38, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ --  Alex TW 09:01, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It's still easier to find those articles from the navbox than scouring the text. My weak keep remains.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 09:07, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 00:12, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete -- insufficient navigation & fancruft. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:55, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete too less content you can link it in the page and infobox. If there is lots more content then it would make more sense --Cs california (talk) 07:08, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
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