Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 April 7



Template:Not enough templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 00:14, 15 April 2017 (UTC) Why does this exist? Is this some type of joke? KMF (talk) 22:28, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Not enough templates
 * Delete: at best very ambiguous, at worst a joke. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:41, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Blatant joke - Too many templates was redirected here by the author! – Train2104 (t • c) 23:49, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: At least the worst joke ever lol. KGirlTrucker81 huh? what I've been doing 18:49, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: Yeah, this one goes for delete. Coderzombie (talk) 14:33, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:ImageUpload

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Primefac (talk) 00:44, 18 April 2017 (UTC) This template does not seem to serve any purpose anymore, especially given that the Commons counterpart was deleted lately. Is there a reason to keep this around? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:05, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ImageUpload
 * Delete I don't see a reason to keep this if the Commons template is gone. MediaWiki:UploadForm.js doesn't exist nor does it have a deletion log. – Train2104 (t • c) 20:02, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Titleblacklist

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 00:44, 18 April 2017 (UTC) This template and the associated log page are no longer in use, seems like. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:28, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Titleblacklist
 * Delete the template and mark the log historical - looks like it never caught on. – Train2104 (t • c) 20:02, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:On An On

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) – Train2104 (t • c) 15:09, 15 April 2017 (UTC) NAVBOX with only 1 related article so navigation is not improved by having this. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:36, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * On An On
 * delete, the articles are already well-connected. Frietjes (talk) 15:51, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Rab and Ryan

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) – Train2104 (t • c) 15:09, 15 April 2017 (UTC) Subject of navbox is a deleted article, not really enough links to provide useful navigation. WP:NENAN. Rob Sinden (talk) 15:24, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Rab and Ryan
 * delete, the articles are already well-connected. Frietjes (talk) 15:53, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Instant permalink

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G2 by AnomieBOT ⚡  00:03, 8 April 2017 (UTC) Unused, undocumented, misleading title (inserts the lorem ipsum rather than creates a permanent link of any kind). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:00, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Instant permalink
 * Speedy delete Test page. Tagged – Train2104 (t • c) 15:23, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:This Is Us ratings

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The result of the discussion was subst and delete. (non-admin closure) – Train2104 (t • c) 15:12, 15 April 2017 (UTC) Not needed for a one-season series, provides no further information. --  Alex TW 04:24, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * This Is Us ratings
 * delete, can be merged with the article if needed. Frietjes (talk) 15:54, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Talk-warn

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Primefac (talk) 00:47, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Talk-warn
 * Redirnone-warn

User warning template for noncontroversial speedy deletion criteria. &mdash; Train2104 (t • c) 03:20, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Admin note: This is a procedural re-nomination due to confusion the first time around. The nominator is advocating for deleting both templates. Primefac (talk) 00:26, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - we don't need to warn users that a talk page of a non-existent page they created might be deleted. Similarly, we don't need to warn users that a redirect to a non-existent page which they created might be deleted.--216.12.10.118 (talk) 03:32, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox name module

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The result of the discussion was merge Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 18:44, 22 April 2017 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Infobox name module with Template:Infobox Chinese.
 * Infobox name module
 * Infobox Chinese

Two translation/transliteration templates which have similar purposes, except Infobox Chinese has a lot more options and is often used as a standalone infobox instead of as an infobox module. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 02:01, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

to reply to me 02:54, 21 March 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 04:19, 21 March 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 04:12, 22 March 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 10:01, 22 March 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 08:38, 24 March 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment What exactly would the merge entail? Would the merged template retain the functionality and behavior of the individual templates or would it result in a huge headache on thousands of articles (both are heavily utilised templates with over 10,000 transclusions between them)? It's important to note they transclude in very different ways: Infobox Chinese is an entire infobox while Infobox name module just adds some sub-fields to an existing infobox. And while it's true that Infobox name module has fewer options than Infobox Chinese, its stripped down format makes Infobox name module a bit more general purpose i.e. an editor can use it to add any language field to an infobox. In principle though I am not against the merge. Betty Logan (talk) 15:32, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Infobox Chinese is composed of several subtemplates (e.g. Infobox Chinese/Korean, Infobox Chinese/Blank) which function pretty much like Infobox name module; the only thing required for a merge would be to add a way to disable the headers. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
 * Comment I think we need some clarification: is the proposal that we merge Infobox Chinese into Infobox name module so that Infobox name module would become the all-inclusive template? Infobox name module is used with Indic scripts, not just Chinese, so my concern is that we are promoting wide, not narrow usage. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:45, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I think it would be best to use "Infobox name module" as the resulting template name, although the features of Infobox name module would be merged into Infobox Chinese and its subpages. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
 * Comment I am leaning towards merging it into that template box. Personally I do not see much value in a infobox just to translate things into multiple chinese names (usually on Chinese foods, places, or events), when you can also use the chinese wikipedia. Also if you check other languages you would not see a Spanish/Portuguese template, a Thai template, or an Indian template. One of the issues with merging that chinese template is the dialects each have their own pronunciation which can make the template very large very fast. I am in favor of keeping everything somewhat consistent for displaying foreign languages for the reader. --Cs california (talk) 23:07, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I think they're useful for understanding how to pronounce the characters (zhwiki actually doesn't have transliteration data). In languages using alphabets it's obviously a lot easier to figure out the pronunciation from the spelling. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
 * if the pronunciation was the issue why not just linkout to wikitory. The template also should have another name other than Chinese there are Burmese, Vietnamese, Tagalog, Laotian, Japanese and Indian language fields that serves the same functions as the chinese fields.--Cs california (talk) 09:54, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Some phrases are quite long and having to go to each character's page would be a bit inconvenient. (Regardless, I don't think it would be a good idea to remove the templates from ten thousand pages just because the information is duplicated in Wiktionary.) The naming issue would be solved by moving the template to "Template:Infobox name module" or "Template:Infobox translation and transliteration" or something. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
 * as I stated before I do not mind if is kept as long as pages are consistant with using it. --Cs california (talk) 10:30, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Don't merge. Infobox Chinese should be kept as a standalone infobox as it makes the linguistic information easier to spot. Scriptions (talk) 07:53, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The merge is to be the other way round. The infobox will remain transcludable both as a standalone table and as part of another infobox. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:11, 28 March 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge and give IPA and literal meaning options for languages other than Chinese, too. Letting users decide the language order is also important, as not all articles that use Template:Infobox Chinese covers "primarily Chinese" topics. (See the articles that use Template:Infobox Chinese/Header.) Perhaps the Template:Infobox East Asian name can also be merged. --Epulum (talk) 04:57, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 00:20, 7 April 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 09:45, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
 * (nominator) Support merging Template:Infobox East Asian name as well, although it's a wrapper of Infobox Chinese subpages already and I'm not sure if we'd need another discussion for that template. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
 * Merge – The two (or three?) infoboxes do seem to serve the same function. --Brett (talk) 05:11, 22 April 2017 (UTC)


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Template:Colorado State University presidents
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 April 17. Primefac (talk) 00:46, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Colorado State University presidents
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Template:Kongfa Waroros
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G2 by AnomieBOT ⚡  13:07, 8 April 2017 (UTC) Seems to be a draft, rather than an actual template. Also, I can't find anything on Wikipedia on Konfa Waroros. The creator seems to be new and unaware that there is a sandbox for testing. — Tuxipεdia ( talk ) 11:03, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Kongfa Waroros
 * Speedy delete Test page. Tagged – Train2104 (t • c) 15:23, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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