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Cricket shortcuts

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The result of the discussion was delete. There's a consensus to delete. Also per discussion at relevant wiki projects. (non-admin closure) Yashovardhan (talk) 08:59, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Cric FC
 * Cric LA
 * Cric LO
 * Cric ODI
 * Cric T
 * Cric T20I
 * Cric WC
 * Delete all. Discussed at WT:CRIC where most of us consider them to have no useful purpose. They were obviously created to shortcut certain terms that frequently appear in cricket articles but investigation has shown that usage has been limited to a few hundred articles only and it is often clumsy, creating nonsensical grammar that has to be rectified. It is more efficient to write the terms than to use these shortcuts. One of them, replaces the word "Test" (as in Test cricket) so it is a ten-character shortcut to a four-letter word! Jack &#124; talk page 19:02, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom, no reason not to just type the words. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:13, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and my comments at the discussion mentioned. I think they're confusing to the newcomer and don't serve any real purpose, as long-established editors don't tend to use them either (from what I can tell).  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:44, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not needed. Johnlp (talk) 08:55, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all All of these abbreviations can just be easily typed rather than using this template. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:25, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep all These are all specific shortcuts that allow the user to ensure that the agreed, correct hyphenation or capitalisation is done for the link and displayed term. As for the "ten character shortcut for a four-letter word", it's a 5 letter template shortcut for a 17 character link - Test . And as for the limited use (even more limited now that Jack has removed most of them from use), they could be used via the subst: function that removes any link back to the template.  Similar templates exist and are widely used for Australian football teams - ie AFL Ade and WAFL SF. The-Pope (talk) 13:23, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment. Hello, The-Pope. I removed them following a valid concern raised by an editor at CRIC and because investigation showed that many of them had been used negligently, creating grammatical/syntax errors such as "a ODI" or "Test cricket cricket matches". Although it is not really relevent, the templates were created and mostly used by an editor who has been blocked, which perhaps doesn't give them much credibility (though they do have much greater credibility than that stupid woman who is squatting in Downing Street); as I say, though, that isn't a reason for AfD. Jack &#124; talk page 14:20, 11 June 2017 (UTC)


 * delete all, obscures linking. Frietjes (talk) 15:47, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * If you use them with subst: then nothing is obscured, and links are standardised, not a random collection of capitalisation and hyphenations via redirects. For example, 5 variations of capitalisation and hyphenations redirect to First-class cricket. This ensures that the correct one is used. But they aren't compulsory, if you don't like them, don't use them! Easy! If the sentence is grammatically incorrect, fix it! The-Pope (talk) 16:44, 11 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Having been unaware of Subst: (thanks The-Pope) I can see that they may be of use, and no way of tracking if people do actually use them in this instance. Only problem at moment is if you do put them through a subst:, you get a page filled with the deletion notice (I've done test here)! Spike &#39;em (talk) 09:39, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all per general consensus at WT:CRIC as encouraging non-helpful abbreviations. And, if you want add cricket abbreviations to your edit toolbox, I am certain someone could write a gadget/script for you, just ask at WP:VPT. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk)  20:08, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 20:01, 17 June 2017 (UTC) This template has content just like Template:Villages in Manopad Mandal, which was recently listed for Deletion IM3847 (talk) 07:11, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 20:01, 17 June 2017 (UTC) This template which has villages from a particular mandal may not meet Wikipedian standards IM3847 (talk) 07:09, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork ―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 20:01, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Template only links to two article. One on the ballpark. Other links are to a template and a category. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:20, 2 June 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Troy Trojans baseball navbox
 * weak keep, connects more than two articles. Frietjes (talk) 15:43, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:59, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Navbox for individual episodes of a television sitcom, of which ten have already been deleted as not having standalone notability as separate topics from the series as a whole, and five more are currently up for AFD for the same reason -- of the sixteen episodes listed here, there's just one that has actually has a credible claim to a standalone article. But a navbox isn't necessary just to link one topic to itself. Bearcat (talk) 14:11, 2 June 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * AuntyJackEps
 * delete, if the articles are deleted, otherwise keep as it links more than a few articles. Frietjes (talk) 16:24, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

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 * comment, most of the articles were merged, so I say delete unless there so some way to repurpose it. Frietjes (talk) 22:37, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:59, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Unused, 2 of 4 links are redirects Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:28, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:59, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Unused, unclear inclusion Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:25, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:59, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Unused, there are much better block templates now. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:24, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:59, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Unused and incomplete Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:55, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:59, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Unused sidebar, project was renamed. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:27, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 June 17. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:57, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 June 17. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:57, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 June 17. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:57, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was redirect to Template:Campaignbox Julian's Persian War. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:56, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Unused sidebar Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:33, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:56, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Unused, doesn't navigate anything Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:57, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was keep as the main rationale for deletion was "unused" and now it is used. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:55, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Unused, doesn't navigate anything. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:56, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:55, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Unused, overly loosely defined. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:55, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Not a clearly defined subject, not a suitable navbox. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 09:41, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Some kind of original research—these topics have no natural connection to each other. czar  05:30, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was redirect to Template:Shared IP. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:54, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Unused from 2008, doesn't seem to have a purpose Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:50, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:05, 10 June 2017 (UTC) Unused, would fail WP:NENAN if used. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:46, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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