Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 June 4



Template:Relate

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) – Train2104 (t • c) 03:16, 12 June 2017 (UTC) Unused content template, situation is too specific. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:12, 4 June 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 16:10, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Relate
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Template:Reggaetón

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:51, 11 June 2017 (UTC) Unused template, content has nothing to do with reggaeton. reggae is a better template. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:12, 4 June 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 16:10, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:OperaMiniBlock

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:51, 11 June 2017 (UTC) Outdated; opera mini proxy network no longer exists Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:11, 4 June 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 16:10, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Manufacturer

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:51, 11 June 2017 (UTC) Unused template, creates a weird symbol. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:09, 4 June 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 16:10, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Manufacturer
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Template:Infinity symbol

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:52, 11 June 2017 (UTC) Unused. Just type an infinity symbol if you need it. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:07, 4 June 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 16:10, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Infinity symbol
 * Delete; unused. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
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Template:Hypothesis
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:51, 11 June 2017 (UTC) Unused and overly specific cleanup template. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:06, 4 June 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 16:10, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hypothesis
 * Delete; unused. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
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Template:Hornsey
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:51, 11 June 2017 (UTC) Unused and WP:NENAN even if it were used. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:05, 4 June 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 16:10, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hornsey
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Template:Dark Blue
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:51, 11 June 2017 (UTC) Unused; content is a cast template, which is discouraged, leaving way too few links to pass WP:NENAN. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:04, 4 June 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 16:10, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Dark Blue
 * Delete; unused. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
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Template:Community sanction
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 June 11. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:51, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:1900 railway accidents
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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:45, 11 June 2017 (UTC) Unused Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:59, 4 June 2017 (UTC) to reply to me 16:10, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * 1900 railway accidents
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 * Keep As far as I can tell, it's used on all the articles in the template and is part of a larger template scheme (rail accidents by year). Can the nom clarify what they understand to be as "unused"? Thanks.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 17:38, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * keep, it looks like it was added to articles around [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Slough_rail_accident&type=revision&diff=783885905&oldid=768756424 June 5] shortly after it was nominated for deletion. Frietjes (talk) 15:38, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Today (U.S. TV program)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:50, 11 June 2017 (UTC) Not enough to navigate... fails WP:EXISTING. Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 22:35, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Today (U.S. TV program)
 * Delete. Now the inappropriate WP:PERFNAV links have been removed, there isn't enough to navigate.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 12:03, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Skyscrapers by height
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G8 by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:08, 5 June 2017 (UTC) Obsolete after deletion of linked categories which were its only contents, see Categories for discussion/Log/2017 May 2. – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:34, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Wikispecies redirect
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:01, 8 June 2017 (UTC) Soft redirect to WikiSpecies which disguises the fact that no Wiki article exists. A bad substitute for FizBuz, which displays as FizBuz and works. Narky Blert (talk) 02:58, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Wikispecies redirect
 * Comment - It follows the style of other singular specialized soft redirect templates (viz. Wiktionary redirect, Wikibooks redirect, Wikiquote redirect, Wikisource redirect, Wikivoyage redirect, and Commons redirect). —  Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 03:23, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * With the exception of Wiktionary redirect all of the cross Wikimedia soft redirect templates mentioned above are essentially unused in article space. Delete them all. Do we really need Wikibooks redirect to get people to [] and []?Plantdrew (talk) 03:47, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I believe the intended purpose is to keep soft redirect out of the mainspace, maintain separate categories for each sister site, and offer a bit more explanation to readers reaching the page. Personally, I monitor them (e.g. watch for new ones, make sure a good local target doesn't exist, and check that they are not entirely inappropriate). — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 04:31, 20 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete One use of this template in article space. There are better ways to do cross Wikimedia links. Plantdrew (talk) 03:47, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Just want to point out that Template:Soft redirect has transclusions within the mainspace in case that is one of the ways you were alluding to. —  Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 04:02, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:42, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - Topics with a less-than-encyclopedic scope that are either commonly wikified words or are repeatedly recreated may become soft redirects to Wikimedia sister projects within the mainspace (WP:SRD and Wikimedia sister projects). Specialized soft redirect templates are used in these cases instead of plain soft redirect. Deleting this template implicitly states that soft redirects to Wikispecies should not be created. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 05:27, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * WT:WikiProject Redirect, WT:Soft redirect, and WT:Wikimedia sister projects have been notified about this discussion. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 05:36, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

to reply to me 11:35, 24 May 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. I think what needs to happen first of all is a policy discussion somewhere about whether soft redirects to Wikispecies are seen as a good thing. If the conclusion is that we should have them in at least some circumstances then we should keep this template as the correct way to do them. If the other hand the conclusion is that we should not have them, then probably the best thing to do is to convert the template with an error message that informs people trying to use it of this consensus view and what the preferred alternative(s) is/are. In neither scenario is deletion the best course of action. Thryduulf (talk) 07:58, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per the first two sentences of the comment made above by Thryduulf. Also, redirects are not just for linking, they also serve to aid searches. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 20:22, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete if the mainspace transclusion is deleted. Jc86035 (talk) <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:56, 27 May 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:56, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep if the relevant transclusion is kept; weak keep if not. I disagree with the nominator's rationale that this template "disguises" the fact that we have no article. I think it is a clear admission that we have no article and have decided to send our reader somewhere more useful. It is well in line with the spirit of wi that we have an equivalent redirect for topics covered by Species that we don't. Deryck C. 15:40, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Deryck. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:25, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Northeastern Mexico
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 June 11. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:45, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Northwestern Mexico
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 June 11. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:45, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Shared IP mil
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 June 11. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:42, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:2018 NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament navbox
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 June 11. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:42, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:2017 NCAA Division I women's soccer season
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:42, 11 June 2017 (UTC) One link (title)... fails WP:EXISTING. Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 07:28, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:2013 Ivy League men's soccer navbox
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:42, 11 June 2017 (UTC) One link (title)... fails WP:EXISTING. Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 07:23, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Ivy League men's soccer seasons navbox
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:42, 11 June 2017 (UTC) One link... fails WP:EXISTING. Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 07:23, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete content merged with existing Template:Ivy League men's soccer navbox per norms. UW Dawgs (talk) 03:13, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:2013 Missouri Valley Conference men's soccer navbox
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:42, 11 June 2017 (UTC) One link (title)... fails WP:EXISTING. Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 07:22, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * 2013 Missouri Valley Conference men's soccer navbox
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Template:2014 Sun Belt Conference men's soccer navbox
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:42, 11 June 2017 (UTC) One link (title)... fails WP:EXISTING. Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 07:22, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:2013 West Coast Conference men's soccer navbox
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:41, 11 June 2017 (UTC) One link (title)... fails WP:EXISTING. Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 07:21, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:2012 Mid-American Conference men's soccer navbox
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:41, 11 June 2017 (UTC) Two links... fails WP:EXISTING. Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 07:21, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Metalcore
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 June 11. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:41, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Northern Illinois Huskies athletic director navbox
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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:33, 11 June 2017 (UTC) One article/link... fails WP:EXISTING. Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 02:24, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Northern Illinois Huskies athletic director navbox
 * I request userfication if deleted. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 02:28, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * It seems wasteful to delete this only to have to recreate it at some point (and possibly soon) in the future. For example, a page could be created for Jeff Compher, current athletic director at East Carolina University, and that page could be linked back to this template and the template would then have two navigable links and not be subject to deletion discussions. This seems like an unwarranted and excessive target of this page. AnneMorgan88 (talk) 12:39, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I created the Sean T. Frazier page so that the template now has two navigable links and provides the utility intended for these sort of templates. No need to delete this template. AnneMorgan88 (talk) 13:40, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep after update, as 3 of 12 people now have articles and others satisfy GNG. Template itself is a routine peer within the established Category:NCAA Division I athletic director navigational boxes. UW Dawgs (talk) 15:06, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, another prime candidate for an article would be James J. Phillips, current AD at Northwestern University. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnneMorgan88 (talk • contribs) 15:35, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on the following discussion regarding moving a page without prior discussion on the Talk:Sean Frazier page. Thank you AnneMorgan88 (talk) 17:04, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep now that there are three linked articles in the body of the navbox. Thanks, UW Dawgs, for taking the initiative on these new articles. Jweiss11 (talk) 21:40, 7 June 2017 (UTC)


 * keep, it looks like articles are being written. Frietjes (talk) 15:38, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).