Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 December 25



Template:Pyapon Township

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 18:20, 1 January 2019 (UTC) Another template used on one article with a sea of red links. There are quite a few more of these templates of townships in Myanmar that are in a similar state. Liz Read! Talk! 04:58, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Pyapon Township
 * Delete per nom. Used once - unnecessary to have a navbox. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:57, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Ma-ubin Township

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 18:21, 1 January 2019 (UTC) Another template that is used only in one article with a sea of red links. Liz Read! Talk! 04:57, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Ma-ubin Township
 * Delete per nom. Used once - unnecessary to have a navbox. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:57, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete unneeded navbox ( its actually used on 2 articles, but still not really needed) --DannyS712 (talk) 00:29, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Kyaikto Township

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 13:46, 9 January 2019 (UTC) This template is only used in one article. It has dozens and dozens of red links since 2011 that are unlikely to become articles. I don't think there would be any loss to Wikipedia if this template were deleted. Liz Read! Talk! 04:53, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Kyaikto Township
 * Comment Here is the corresponding template in Burmese: w:my:Template:မွန်ပြည်နယ်. It has far fewer links and is organized somehow. All populated, legally recognized places are considered notable if their existence and legal status can be verified. – Laundry Pizza 03  ( d c&#x0304; ) 15:42, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Unused. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:57, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * weak delete, although it is used in 3 articles (contrary to Tom (LT)'s assertion), it seems unlikely there will be any new verifiable articles written in the near future. and, contrary to 's assertion,  w:my:Template:မွန်ပြည်နယ် is the equivalent to Template:Mon State, not this template. Frietjes (talk) 15:04, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Simcoe County Roads

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The result of the discussion was delete. Galobtter (pingó mió) 08:19, 4 January 2019 (UTC) Template whose links are almost entirely redirects. County roads are not deemed inherently notable, so not a single route in the "North-South" or "East-West" actually has its own standalone article as a county road per se — a couple of them redirect to former provincial highways, while the vast majority redirect to the single merged List of numbered roads in Simcoe County. The only places this is actually being used at all are on two of the provincial highways and on, where it isn't really appropriate. Bearcat (talk) 23:11, 17 December 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Simcoe County Roads

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:45, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Comment: Ironically, Simcoe 6—which is probably the most important County road that’s not a downgraded Highway—doesn’t have its own article. Useddenim (talk) 17:00, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Unused. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:57, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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Template:SZM color
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:57, 1 January 2019 (UTC) No remaining transclusions; replaced by Adjacent stations and Module:Adjacent stations/Shenzhen Metro. Jc86035 (talk) 09:38, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * SZM color
 * SZM lines
 * SZM stations
 * SZM style
 * S-line/SZM left/1
 * S-line/SZM left/2
 * S-line/SZM left/3
 * S-line/SZM left/4
 * S-line/SZM left/5
 * S-line/SZM left/7
 * S-line/SZM left/9
 * S-line/SZM left/11
 * S-line/SZM right/1
 * S-line/SZM right/2
 * S-line/SZM right/3
 * S-line/SZM right/4
 * S-line/SZM right/5
 * S-line/SZM right/7
 * S-line/SZM right/9
 * S-line/SZM right/11
 * Delete per nom. Unused and has been replaced. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:57, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, unneeded templates --DannyS712 (talk) 00:26, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Medal "For Courage"
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 January 4. Primefac (talk) 01:44, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Medal_"For_Courage"
 * Medal_"For_Strengthening_of_Brotherhood_in_Arms"
 * Medal_"For_the_Capture_of_Berlin"
 * Medal_"For_the_Defence_of_Leningrad"
 * Medal_"For_the_Defence_of_Moscow"
 * Medal_"For_the_Defence_of_Odessa"
 * Medal_"For_the_Defence_of_Sevastopol"
 * Medal_"For_the_Defence_of_the_Soviet_Transarctic"
 * Medal_"For_the_Liberation_of_Prague"
 * Medal_"For_the_Victory_over_Japan"
 * Medal_"In_Commemoration_of_the_250th_Anniversary_of_Leningrad"
 * Medal_"To_a_Partisan_of_the_Patriotic_War"_1st_class
 * Medal_"To_a_Partisan_of_the_Patriotic_War"_2nd_class
 * Medal_"Veteran_of_the_Armed_Forces_of_the_USSR"
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Template:Infobox film festival
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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Infobox theatre festival with the final name for the merged template to be decided. The arguments for a merge are somewhat stronger as they focus on the specifics of the template and whether the templates are similar enough for a merge rather than abstract considerations. Galobtter (pingó mió) 09:21, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Infobox film festival - 1173 transclusions
 * Infobox theatre festival - 48 transclusions

Propose merging Template:Infobox film festival with Template:Infobox theatre festival.

Very similar events, and most of the templates' collective parameters apply to either. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:49, 7 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge - seems (to me) that the only unique theatre only parameter is play_type, while others parameters in theatre festival not found in the film festival could be applied to it as well. Not sure what would be the final name. --Gonnym (talk) 16:42, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep the templates are used in quite different ways and for different subject matter. I don't think it's helpful for editors to have them replaced or merged into one (confusing) super template. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:09, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * What "different ways"? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:19, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose theater and film are 2 fairly different mediums. I don't see any benefits to merging them. -- Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 07:32, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * As usual, the issue is not how distinct the subjects are (and, while film and theatre are different, their festivals are not so much), but whether or not we need separate templates to describe them; doubly so for just 48 articles of one class. See also Gonnym's analysis of the parameters. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:19, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: The overlap between the templates is exemplified by the fact that South East European Film Festival is using the theatre festival infobox - and has been since June 2015, before it was approved from Draft. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:25, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Galobtter (pingó mió) 05:05, 15 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Oppose Two different mediums and it makes no sense. I cant see the sense in continually pushing for generic WP template, when knowledge itself is highly specialised.  scope_creep Talk  15:44, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * These templates are about festivals, not media. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge - As I've noted elsewhere, where the parameters and display of templates exactly overlap, then sensibly they should be served by a single template. The learning curve is not helped by a proliferation of specially named duplicate templates for my special event-type. Neither is maintenance and development of templates assisted by needless duplication. As POTW notes, the subject of this template is a festival; the media - film, theatre, puppetry, yodelling, Tuvan throat singing - is immaterial. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:42, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge While theatre festivals and film festivals may be distinct concepts, they're not so far apart (unlike the recent proposal to merge a performing arts infobox with a sports infobox) that they have to be kept separate, and the South East European use demonstrates that a merger should work rather smoothly. Just please be careful to merge |play_type because it's one thing to maintain separate templates and another thing to force one template's parameters into doing something the other does well: unless there's a parameter whose existence we don't want, a merger is only appropriate if we're willing to have the merged template do everything that either of the pre-existing templates can do.  Nyttend (talk) 06:42, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 02:06, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge. Well said, Nyttend. --Bsherr (talk) 02:17, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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Template:FlagWSSC
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 15:14, 1 January 2019 (UTC) This template is somewhat pointless, because the countries do not have " at the World Speed Skating Championships" pages, and multiple AFDs I have found indicate that it is extremely unlikely they will be created. If flag/name is needed, then flagteam or flag can be used. Primefac (talk) 01:43, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * FlagWSSC
 * Delete after replacing with Template:Flag. Taking Primefac's word about the AfDs, that's the logical outcome. --Bsherr (talk) 02:58, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Better to be replaced by alternate template as per nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:57, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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