Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 June 26



Module:Archive number

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. No opposition. WP:REFUND applies. Primefac (talk) 00:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC) Unnecessarily specific lua module, can be implemented in Wikitext using Module:String &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 22:00, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 July 9. Primefac (talk) 01:08, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Netflix original series

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The result of the discussion was split then redirect. Nearly everyone agrees that the template in its current form should not exist, but there is a slight majority for splitting rather than outright deletion. After the split occurs there is no prejudice against nomination of the template(s) for deletion, mostly based on recent consensus to delete similar templates and the (completely valid) "delete" arguments against this type of template. As a note, the split will require attribution, which requires that the original template be kept. I recommend redirecting to the "current" variant when it is created. Primefac (talk) 01:07, 9 July 2018 (UTC) Simply too big to be useful. Best left for categories and lists. See similar discussion at Templates for discussion/Log/2018 April 27. -- wooden superman  14:12, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
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 * delete, too large to be useful. better to use categories and/or list articles for navigation here. Frietjes (talk) 16:51, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * keep, can be maintained and divided like the Televisa templates.-- Philip J Fry   Talk  20:17, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Looking at those, they should also probably be deleted, as they're too big and/or fragmented to be useful too. Decade splits are completely arbitrary.  -- wooden  superman  12:09, 5 July 2018 (UTC)


 * delete per nom. —Joeyconnick (talk) 04:35, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Split then delete. This template was created as a result of Templates for discussion/Log/2017 June 30, where the main Netflix template was split into three new ones. It seems this can be done for this template - split it off into separate templates (e.g. Template:Netflix original current series, Template:Netflix original continuation series, Template:Netflix original ended series, Template:Netflix original upcoming series). --  Alex TW 04:48, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Probably the only useful template would be original upcoming series. Otherwise the user could use the list of netflix originals (which can be sorted) or the category page. --Foia req (talk) 05:03, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * We don't treat any other network in this way, we shouldn't be making an exception for Netflix. -- wooden  superman  11:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * "Other stuff does not exist" is not a valid argument. Wikipedia is always expanding with new content and ideas, that's the very point of it. --  Alex TW 11:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * But this new idea is a bad idea. Imagine if we started navboxes for every single ended ABC show, BBC show, NBC show, etc, etc...  Current and upcoming is the usual format for navboxes of this type, but to reduce it to this would not sufficiently address the size issue and the navbox would still be too big to perform a useful navigational function.  -- wooden  superman  11:44, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * It would only be necessary for enormous navboxes like this, not a small typical broadcaster one. It definitely addresses the size issue, as they are split into four much-smaller templates, the usages of this template replaced with those, and then this one would be deleted. --  Alex TW 14:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * We only include current and upcoming programming for other broadcasters (see NBCNetwork Shows (current and upcoming)), past programming is left for categories and lists due to the large amount of back-catalogue productions. No reason to deviate from this here.  However, as this navbox would still be too large after any split/purge, despite what you claim above, it has outgrown its usefulness.  There's a reason we don't have a BBC programming navbox (for example).  -- wooden  superman  14:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Do we? I can list a great number of navboxes that have past series as well. Is this a guideline or standard practice? Because I've never seen that stated. This navbox wouldn't exist after any split, so I'm not sure how it'll be too large when it's been deleted? A BBC programming navbox is a good idea, thanks for that... --  Alex TW 14:44, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Haha, a BBC navbox would be a terrible idea. List of television programmes broadcast by the BBC.  -- wooden  superman  14:44, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Yes, but the BBC apparently has two hundred current, and thirty-four upcoming shows by a quick search for all the times "* '" appears. If Netflix ever gets close to the point where it exceeds the BBC in upcoming productions, a new decision could be made, but I doubt it, since Netflix will always license shows. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Foia req (talk • contribs) 21:08, 27 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Split then delete. I agreed with AlexTheWhovian. — Landingdude13 (talk) 07:49, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Split then delete per Alex -- Whats new?(talk) 05:27, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per prevous consensus on similar Netflix templates.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 08:21, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Also spiting the template into four new navbox is just not practical. The entire point of this navbox is to see the entire Netflix programming for current and upcoming series (and ended, which really has become to large to be included like the Big Four US networks). What would be the point in splitting off the upcoming shows to a completely separate navbox? With Netflix ordering a new series almost everyday (there are over 160 upcoming series), it's just not feasible to keep this template and/or split it into four new ones since those will also become too big and not particularly useful. It is better to use categories and List of original programs distributed by Netflix. - Brojam (talk) 18:56, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Split then delete per Alex. QueerFilmNerd  talk 16:42, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per Philip J Fry, or second in order of preference "Split" it. Christian75 (talk) 19:00, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Split then delete into the four templates suggested by Alex. — Bilorv(c)(talk) 16:30, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
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Template:The Voice of Albania

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Primefac (talk) 00:37, 6 July 2018 (UTC) Consists of duplicate links to 2 articles. Nothing worth navigating. -- wooden superman  12:52, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Senior Living

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 July 6. Primefac (talk) 00:36, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Television ratings graph

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 July 6. Primefac (talk) 00:36, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
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