Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 May 14



Module:Countdownalt

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:11, 23 May 2018 (UTC) Abandoned, misnamed sandbox of Module:Countdown. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 20:15, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Countdownalt
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Module:Commons category

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:15, 23 May 2018 (UTC) Unused Wikidata lua module; can be passed as a parameter to Module:Wd, Module:Wikidata, or Module:WikidataIB to get the commons category of a page. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 20:05, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Commons category
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Template:Senior Open Championship

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 May 22. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 13:15, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Senior_Open_Championship
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Template:A-League Ladder2

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) ~ Winged Blades Godric  14:38, 23 May 2018 (UTC) unused; probably replaced by Module:Sports table Frietjes (talk) 14:07, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * A-League Ladder2
 * ALeague highlight colour
 * Delete Per nom. Hhkohh (talk) 06:15, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Hhkohh (talk) 06:15, 19 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, unused and not needed. GiantSnowman 10:16, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
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Template:NZFC 2009-10 Position Ladder

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) ~ Winged Blades Godric  14:38, 23 May 2018 (UTC) unused; probably replaced by Module:Sports table. Frietjes (talk) 13:40, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * NZFC 2009-10 Position Ladder
 * NZFC 2009-10 Position Ladder2
 * NZFC 2009-10 Position Ladder2/t
 * NZFC HBU colour
 * NZFC OU colour
 * NZFC TW colour
 * NZFC WFC colour
 * NZFC WU colour
 * Delete per nom. Hhkohh (talk) 06:15, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom, unused and not needed. GiantSnowman 10:15, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
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Module:Asbox/testedit

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The result of the discussion was Userfy. To Module:Sandbox/CodeHydro/Asbox/testedit (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 11:41, 23 May 2018 (UTC) Unused, plus could be easily implemented in Wikitext &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 19:33, 5 May 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Asbox/testedit
 * Comment As there are several TFDs for unused modules on this day's log, I've proposed a speedy-deletion criterion for unused modules. Please visit WT:CSD to offer an opinion on the proposal.  Nyttend (talk) 16:43, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * You can move this module to my userspace if you'd like. This module was convenient when Asbox was being developed as I needed to generate a lot of very similar links. It currently isn't used because Asbox is currently stable and the generated links have been replaced with hardcoded versions. It might be useful again if Asbox were ever updated and new testcases were created. — Code  Hydro  11:49, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
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Module:Airport destinations

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 02:41, 25 May 2018 (UTC) (a) Only used on 2 non-articles (b) Not in english (c) Wikipedia has rejected generating this kind of table from Wikidata &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 19:16, 5 May 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Airport destinations

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 * delete, although I disagree with c. Frietjes (talk) 13:26, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
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Module:Available

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 May 22. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 13:08, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Available
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Sports Illustrated Swimsuit navboxes

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) ~ Winged Blades Godric  14:39, 23 May 2018 (UTC) Not really a useful navigation tool, mostly due to their sheer size (among other factors), and as a list of appearances in magazines, it probably fails WP:PERFNAV. Best suited to a list (or category, although that may fail WP:PERFCAT). -- wooden superman  15:24, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * 1970–1979 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit
 * 1980–1989 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit
 * 1990–1999 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit
 * 2000–2009 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit
 * 2010–2019 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit
 * SI Swimsuit Cover Models
 * Keep The templates link people who have similar encyclopedic appeal to readers making it easy for them to get from one article to to another article that likely appeals to readers for similar reasons. I.e., it links articles of people who are associated in a way that makes linkages logical.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:39, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you really envisage a situation where a reader will find this a useful navigation tool and wouldn't be better served by an article? Will readers really be using this to navigate between one model to another without context?  It's just unnecessary clutter really and fails the spirit of WP:PERFNAV.  -- wooden  superman  10:16, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, is the topic even notable? I note that List of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue models does not exist, and if it was to be created, it may even be deleted per WP:LISTCRUFT, so these navboxes fail WP:NAVBOX anyway.  -- wooden  superman  10:19, 24 April 2018 (UTC)


 * delete, better to navigate through list articles and categories. Frietjes (talk) 14:03, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Tony. I've used the navboxes myself on a number of occasions to find models by specific year, and to navigate between model pages, while have never used categories or list articles for these topics. I can't imagine I'm the only such user. - BilCat (talk) 00:10, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, there aren't articles or categories for this, so you wouldn't have been able to. But that would be a better way of presenting this information, provided that the topic is even notable.  However as a navbox is unsourced, we cannot judge notability, which is why there should be an article on the subject of a navbox before a navbox is created.  At worst, this is WP:LISTCRUFT, at best it should be listified, either way, there should not be a navbox for it.  -- wooden  superman  15:46, 30 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, I wouldn't have used the categories or list page had they existed, and usually don't use them for navigation when they do exist. I prefer to use navboxes for navigation, not categories, or list pages. (Actually, I don't use categories at all, and list pages rarely.) As to sources, the sources are the issues themselves, and are what would be cited in a list page anyway. I've no issue with a list page being created, but you've already made it clear it probably shouldn't exist, so why bother as long as we have the navboxes.


 * I don't know if there is a way to track usage of navboxes, but I'd love to see the traffic numbers if there is. - BilCat (talk) 20:46, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * If the list shouldn't exist, then the navbox definitely shouldn't as that would imply the topic isn't notable. -- wooden  superman  08:03, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * Keep SI Swimsuit Cover Models Being selected as the cover model for the one annual issue is as notable as being selected Sports Illustrated Sportsperson of the Year or List of Playboy Playmates of the Year, and the people in the navbox have some notability because of it. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:32, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * What's your opinion on the others? -- wooden  superman  13:05, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Not sure if the others are that useful. Being a model in the issue that isn't the cover isn't a big deal. There were some issues in which regular athletes or sports personalities wore swimsuits in the issue. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:52, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

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Template:1964–1969 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit
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The result of the discussion was delete. If anyone wants to expand the 1970-79 template to include these years, they can discuss it on that template's talk page. Primefac (talk) 00:12, 28 May 2018 (UTC) Only links two articles. Nothing to navigate. Best dealt with by a list. See also. -- wooden superman  15:22, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * 1964–1969 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit
 * Weak keep: since this template is one in a series, and many of the models are known by name, "maybe" it could/should be kept, and "maybe" articles on the red-link models could be written. Independently of this discussion, maybe the models (all of them, from all years) should be categorized. HandsomeFella (talk) 19:41, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

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 * Keep The template links people who have similar encyclopedic appeal to readers making it easy for them to get from one article to to another article that likely appeals to readers for similar reasons. I.e., it links articles of people who are associated in a way that makes linkages logical.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:39, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Can't really support keeping with only two links though.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:42, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * delete, better to navigate through list articles and categories. Frietjes (talk) 14:03, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to Template:1970–1979 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit, assuming it is kept above. - BilCat (talk) 00:18, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to 1970–1979 per BilCat.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:37, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. This template has been around for nearly a decade and only two of the listed models are bluelinked. Not really functional. Oppose merge, no good reon to add more redlinks to a similar template. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006.   (talk) 16:07, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

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