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Template:Cr-PSL

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Pkbwcgs (talk) 17:37, 22 May 2019 (UTC) As per the ongoing discussions for IPL and BBL templates, clear consensus to delete these meaningless templates Joseph2302 (talk) 21:52, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Cr-PSL
 * Cr-CPL
 * Cr-BPL


 * Keep unlike IPL and BBL ones these include flags. Human (talk) 04:46, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Which violates MOS:FLAG. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:41, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Astonishing as no noticed this despite the first BPL tournament being held back in 2012, and all the other followed. Human (talk) 12:38, 11 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - I don't see anything in WP:FLAG that forbids us to use team colors. Many PSL related pages are relied on this template, see 2019 Pakistan Super League as an example. Though, this may go against WP:TOOMANY. This can be solved by reformatting the template, so that we can use lesser flag on the page, where needed. Thanks! M. Billoo 13:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Exactly. It overall makes a mess where the templates are used now that the deletion tag is attached. Even if the template is deleted, reformatting the page will be a very difficult and time consuming job. Human (talk) 14:28, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * There was a TfD discussion in 2011 which removed the Flags from the IPL version of this template. There wasn't a huge amount of policy discussion, but editors said they were synthesis of new material. I don't see the need to show the team colours in match results and once they are gone, the templates just become an obfuscation of a simple link. Something taking time to fix is not a valid reason not to do it in my mind (though I think it would be better to do the changes before the template is deleted) Spike &#39;em (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Though the PSL one can be fixed, the BPL and CPL are the ones that are not given importance. There is a WikiProject about BPL but most of the members are inactive. It will be hard for just one editor to fix articles relating to two different cricket leagues. Human (talk) 15:47, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * It just needs a BOTREQ or someone with AWB to do it. There are 36 pages transcluding Cr-BPL and 10 Cr-CPL. It will take longer to do the Search / replace terms than to actually run through these. Spike &#39;em (talk) 16:27, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually, AWB allows a substitute template option and seems to substitute better than doing a subst via the browser editor, so this is even less of an issue. Only things stopping me doing this now is that it does subst in the TfD warning! Spike &#39;em (talk) 09:39, 15 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete These are used as a transport for some WP:OR images which breach MOS:FLAG / MOS:ICON as they are for decorative purposes only. Spike &#39;em (talk) 15:05, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * And for the CPL ones, they use a national flag rather than team colours or emblem. These are not teams that represent those countries, they are multi-national teams that happen to be based there. Spike &#39;em (talk) 16:45, 11 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Strong delete - not needed, better served by standard links, the addition of graphics without suitable alt text to a page should always be avoided, the addition of multiple (in some cases, quite possibly, tens or hundreds) of additional templates to a page should be avoided in terms of page load times, particularly when using mobile networks. So many reasons for deleting them as opposed to the reasons for keeping them which seem to be "it's too much work to replace them". As Spike has already suggested, this is a really straightforward bot request to do. Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:06, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The Template:Cr-PSL has been fixed on my request by User:Frietjes, so now no need to delete. Similar to Template:Cr-IPL. Thanks! M. Billoo 16:08, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm concerned that we're using templates when it would be more effective to use plain text links. For example, on the 2019 PSL page the template is used over 100 times. Add that to other templates on the page (flagicon, cite etc...) there appear to be getting on to 400 templates used just on that page - there are tables and so on which cause issues with counting the brackets, but I reckon it's at least 350. From the point of view of load-time overheads, especially when on a mobile network, that's actually quite an issue that could be reduced by simply using regular links. Blue Square Thing (talk) 16:28, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The result of the TfD for Cr-IPL was to delete, so saying PSL is more like does not encourage keeping it. Spike &#39;em (talk) 17:40, 14 April 2019 (UTC)


 * substitute and delete per Cr-IPL. Frietjes (talk) 14:48, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Sub and delete per the indentical discussion for the IPL templates.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 14:47, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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Several merged tables (1)

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:10, 18 April 2019 (UTC) merged with parent articles (with attribution) per this thread and subsequent TfD discussions. Frietjes (talk) 20:24, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
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 * subst and delete as per the discussion and similar league table templates. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:55, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * delete all per nom Hhkohh (talk) 07:35, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Hhkohh (talk) 07:40, 11 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 12:13, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 05:10, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
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Template:University of Craiova

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:08, 18 April 2019 (UTC) Only 3 navigable links, including the head article, so it fails WP:NENAN. The rest of the template is a forest of plain text listings of departments, research centres, etc. Navigation boxes are for navigation, not for making fancily-formatted lists. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:49, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * University of Craiova
 * Delete. University navboxes can certainly be valid, but this doesn't cut it.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  12:46, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Useless.  Even the linked items shouldn't be in there as they are not specific to the subject!  -- wooden  superman  12:14, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Cast list break
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 May 27. Primefac (talk) 02:41, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Cast_list_break
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Template:Bonnie Langford
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:05, 18 April 2019 (UTC) This actress/musical artist's navigational template consists of the biography article, the three acting credits that should not be located in the template, a link to a section of the biography article, a link to a section of a musical and a redlink. The template is only located in the biography article so it currently does not navigate anywhere and with no articles for her own albums and/or songs, there is no justification for having this navigational template. Aspects (talk) 02:30, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Bonnie Langford
 * Obvious delete. This isn't properly navigating.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  12:46, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nominator is spot on with analysis of what's wrong with this.  -- wooden  superman  12:16, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
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