Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 August 17



Template:Scientists of Bangladesh

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:48, 24 August 2019 (UTC) We don't make such navboxes. Totally cherry-picking. Fails navbox purpose. Störm  (talk)  17:46, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Scientists of Bangladesh
 * Delete per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Ajf773 (talk) 22:21, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete would be better if there was first a page called Scientists of Bangladesh. It does seem cherry picked when compared to the category of Bangladeshi scientists Mujinga (talk) 16:11, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * delete, this is why we have categories. Frietjes (talk) 15:51, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per Frietjes....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:21, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
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Template:New message

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:47, 24 August 2019 (UTC) Propose merging Template:New message with Template:New discussion.
 * New message
 * New discussion

Two templates with the same purpose. I suggest redirecting New message to New discussion --Trialpears (talk) 22:20, 10 August 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Replace New message with New discussion. "Message" to me means sending a private message similar to other messaging services, which is obviously not what happens here. --Gonnym (talk) 06:08, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose – The templates don't have the same purpose: "new message" is specifically for user talk pages, where other users might indeed send messages to a particular user, whereas "new discussion" is a more generic link that might work with any page that has discussions on it. I don't see a compelling need to merge or replace here. Mz7 (talk) 10:41, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:41, 17 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose this particular merge per Mz7. However, new message, user new message, message, and leave message appear to serve the same purpose with only color, phrasing and minor functionality changes (new message creates a new section in the current page, User new message always goes to the User talk namespace, and the other two create the section in the associated talk namespace). They could probably be considered for merging in a separate discussion if this one closes as keep (if it's closed as merge instead, then they should all be merged for consistency).
 * Note that Message has 902 transclusions and User new message has 411, while New discussion has 237. – Sonicwave talk  23:50, 21 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose Mz7 sums it up quite well. BTW there are no private messages on WikiP. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 17:09, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
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Template:The Who rock operas

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 August 24. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:47, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The_Who_rock_operas
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Template:Business in Australia

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The result of the discussion was reduce scope. Feel free to renominate if you would still like to see the template deleted Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:40, 24 August 2019 (UTC) This template is based on arbitrary criteria, not usual to how we create navboxes. In WP book, if company has an article then it should be in the related template, if any. Otherwise, specify criteria by using reliable source. To me, useless as navbox. Störm  (talk)  20:22, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Business in Australia
 * Sorry, Störm, can you offer a bit more explanation? I couldn't understand what you meant by "if company has an article then it should be in the related template, if any. Otherwise, specify criteria by using reliable source." I literally don't know what those sentences mean. I do see that the navbox does not tick many of the criteria at WP:NAVBOX. But I also see that the capacity to have an overview of potentially related topics of interest could be lost if the template is simply deleted. other views? hamiltonstone (talk) 05:08, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * delete, too broad in scope, which is probably why we don't have a parent article either. Frietjes (talk) 16:38, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 18:03, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Just an indiscriminate collection of links. Ajf773 (talk) 02:28, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Reduce scope to just the first three sections (Institutions, stock exchanges and business associations). The S&P50 has its own template and the other three categories have no clear criteria for inclusion or exclusion in this or any other navbox. --Scott Davis Talk 10:49, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Reduce scope per Scott. These sections are useful and the man deletion argument doesn't apply to these sections. --Trialpears (talk) 16:19, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Kerja di Australia
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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per nominator — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:35, 17 August 2019 (UTC) Mistakenly moved to template mainspace, perhaps as part of attempt to evade CSD. David Biddulph (talk) 17:24, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Kerja di Australia
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T&P s-line templates
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:39, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * T&P color
 * T&P lines
 * T&P stations


 * S-line/T&P left/Texas Eagle
 * S-line/T&P right/Texas Eagle

Unused templates for the Texas and Pacific Railway. Never (near as I can tell/remember) implemented. Any new implementation would need to be with. There are two dependent s-line data modules which should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 17:13, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Campus Living Villages in Australia
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:35, 24 August 2019 (UTC) Only one article link, not useful for navigation Aloneinthewild (talk) 15:57, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Campus Living Villages in Australia
 * Delete, too many redlinks, the time for this navbox has not yet come. Maybe in the future though. Mujinga (talk) 16:16, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Not enough links....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:20, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Gojoseon
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:36, 24 August 2019 (UTC) Only four links, one of which is a redirect to another. Template provides little context and the three articles are all interlinked anyway. Seems unnecessary. PC78 (talk) 15:36, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Gojoseon
 * Delete Too few links, especially when disregarding the redirect. --Trialpears (talk) 16:17, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
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Template:2014 Japan Football League table
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:35, 24 August 2019 (UTC) unused after being merged with the parent article (with attribution) per consensus at WT:FOOTY Frietjes (talk) 13:46, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * 2014 Japan Football League table
 * 2014 J3 League table
 * 2014 J.League Division 2 table
 * 2014 J.League Division 1 table
 * 2013 J.League Division 2 table
 * 2012 J.League Division 2 table
 * 2011 J.League Division 2 table
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 09:49, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - per nom. GiantSnowman 09:50, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Pp-meta
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 August 24. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:39, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Pp-meta
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Template:I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! (American TV series)
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The result of the discussion was delete. czar 14:06, 24 August 2019 (UTC) Navigates too little content. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:26, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! (American TV series)
 * Delete - season 1 does not have an article, so it navigates between the series and season 2. The two winners should not even be included in the navbox. TV series template do not include links to specific cast members, but for some reason reality series editors feel the need to add these links. --Gonnym (talk) 09:59, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - there isn't enough to justify a navbox presently. Mujinga (talk) 16:28, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
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