Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 February 11



Template:England conurbations

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 February 19. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:21, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * England_conurbations
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Template:Ontlaseating

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:53, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 23:08, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Ontlaseating

Do not delete it. Kevinhanit (talk) 17:29, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

User:Steel1943, If you delete it, then what would you substitute it with? Kevinhanit (talk) 17:32, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Please see this edit for how "substitution" works. What I mean is that I don't see a need for this content to be in the "Template:" namespace since it is used in only one article. So, with "substitution, the code of the template would be placed in the article instead of the transclusion of Ontlaseating. Steel1943  (talk) 17:48, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the update. It is a transferable template that goes with the article of the Current Ontario Legislature. It makes it much easier to read the article while updating it as this section is extremely long when edited. Kevinhanit (talk) 18:18, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep This template is ugly to look and and difficult to read even on a computer, let alone a phone. That said it's better off as a template as it would make editing the article very difficult. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete The markup stored here is no more complicated than any other article with a wikitable directly in the wikitext, of which there are many, so this is just like any other single-use template. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 01:52, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete Seems to me that this is much too detailed stuff for Wikipedia. Substitute back in and then there can be a discussion there as to whether this is needed or not. Either way, it shouldn't be a template. Nigej (talk) 09:47, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:PIE-OInd-Av

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:57, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 23:07, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * PIE-OInd-Av
 * Keep seems to serve a useful purpose being separate from the article, making editing easier --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:39th Canadian Parliament standings

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:56, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 23:04, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * 39th Canadian Parliament standings

This one should be substituted and deleted Kevinhanit (talk) 00:51, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 09:50, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:ICS 2004

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:56, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Specific-source template with no article-space transclusions and unclear future use. Delete. Steel1943 (talk) 23:02, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ICS 2004
 * Delete per nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Even more one-transclusion election templstes

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:59, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Election templates with one transclusion each. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 22:59, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Northern Ireland Assembly election, 2007
 * Japanese House of Councillors election, 2007
 * Subst and delete per nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 10:23, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:UK Customs rank insignia

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:19, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 22:40, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * UK Customs rank insignia
 * Subst and delete per nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Part of a series. Currently only links from Her Majesty's Customs (Gibraltar) but could link from other articles. Nigej (talk) 11:32, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Timeline of full-size iPod models

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:20, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 22:40, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Timeline of full-size iPod models
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Template:Largest Metropolitan Areas of Mexico

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The result of the discussion was keep. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:49, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 22:39, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Largest Metropolitan Areas of Mexico
 * Keep. There's no good reason not to transclude it elsewhere, so I've added it to several other articles.  Nyttend (talk) 01:15, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as it is in use on other articles now and is encyclopedic content Atlantic306 (talk) 14:00, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:IBL

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:49, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Map with one article-space transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 22:36, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * IBL
 * Subst and delete - Map showing the location of the 6 teams in the 2007 Israel Baseball League, a league that only lasted 1 season. No other possible use. Nigej (talk) 10:32, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Croydon and Gatwick weatherbox

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:47, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One article-space transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 22:34, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Croydon and Gatwick weatherbox
 * Keep - Seems to be standard for weather boxes, of which there are many. Nigej (talk) 10:33, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete Per Templates for discussion/Log/2016 September 4 &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 15:24, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Gunpowder plotters

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The result of the discussion was delete. Feel free to remove the . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:45, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Image map with one article-space transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 22:16, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Gunpowder plotters
 * Delete; small image-map without a lot of code, so there's no reason to keep it separate. Nyttend (talk) 01:15, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Replace with image and delete - the image with a clever facility so that you can place the cursor and the name of the person pops up. However, the name are on the image anyway, so seems pointless, especially since when I try it the wrong name often pops up. Nigej (talk) 10:35, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Fb pl ESP 2007

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:41, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Specific-source template with one transclusion and no obvious ability to be used elsewhere. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 22:13, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Fb pl ESP 2007
 * Subst and delete per nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. Fb pl ENG 2007 "Squad size is unlimited." has 4 transclusions and seems similarly abandoned. Nigej (talk) 16:57, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Al-Maliki Government
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:40, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 22:12, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Al-Maliki Government
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Template:Queensland Legislative Assembly
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:38, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 22:07, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Queensland Legislative Assembly
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Template:Ediacaran biota timeline
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:21, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One article-space transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 22:06, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Ediacaran biota timeline
 * This will break all the old versions of the articles in the history, though. My memory of these are that they were common at the time, because the code is so easy to break if they're editable in article space. One stray character and they break. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.3% of all FPs 05:36, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Subst and delete per nom. "This will break old revisions" is not generally considered a reason to keep something, unless the template was very widely used. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 02:08, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Are we even allowed to do that? It breaks attribution history. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.3% of all FPs 09:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep part of a series of similar geological timelines at Category:Graphical timeline templates. Nigej (talk) 08:59, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Graptolite timeline
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:20, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 22:05, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Graptolite timeline
 * Keep the coding is complicated and will make editing the contents, and editing the article, more difficult. Better kept as a separate template. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom (LT) (talk • contribs) 08:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Florida Election Recounts
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:36, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 21:53, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Florida Election Recounts
 * Subst and delete Links from 2000 United States presidential election recount in Florida. Despite its name it is specific to the 2000 presidential election, so is unlikely to be used elsewhere. Nigej (talk) 11:35, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:TaipeiFest Best Director
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:34, 19 February 2019 (UTC) navigation template for an award without article The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 19:00, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * TaipeiFest Best Director
 * Subst and delete per nom. Does not merit inclusion on linked articles therefore no point. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - Taipei_Film_Awards lists some of the winners (first column) although it is incomplete. Category:Film award templates lists this and a few others for TaipeiFest. Maybe this could be kept as one of the more important awards there. Nigej (talk) 11:55, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:TaipeiFest Best New Talent
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:33, 19 February 2019 (UTC) navigation template for an award without article The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 19:00, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * TaipeiFest Best New Talent
 * Subst and delete per nom. Does not merit inclusion on linked articles therefore no point. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Taipei_Film_Awards lists some of the winners (last column). The template is similarly incomplete. Only three blue links if we ignore the ensemble cast. Rather minor award, so seems excessive. Nigej (talk) 11:49, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Golden Horse Award Audience Choice Award
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:32, 19 February 2019 (UTC) navigation template for an award without article The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 18:59, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Golden Horse Award Audience Choice Award
 * Subst and delete per nom. Does not merit inclusion on linked articles therefore no point. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Golden Horse Film Festival and Awards mentions the award but does not list the winners, so this is unreferenced material. Nigej (talk) 11:43, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Metro system of the World
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:32, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Unused, redundant as discussed here <b style="background:#0000ff;font:Helvetica;padding:0.4em;font-size: 80%;border-radius: 2em;margin: 0.25em;"> Cards84664 </b> (talk) 08:50, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Metro system of the World
 * Delete, agree with nom, the linked discussion indicated most people were in agreement that it is unnecessary and does not have any meaningful relationship to link all metro systems together in such a way  Heights (Want to talk?) 00:31, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Hindu leader
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The result of the discussion was procedural close. The previous TFD still stands - if the merger hasn't been finished then it should be added to WP:TFD/H so someone can take care of it. Primefac (talk) 17:10, 11 February 2019 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Infobox Hindu leader with Template:Infobox religious biography.
 * Infobox Hindu leader
 * Infobox religious biography

Already a wrapper, No distinct parameter, WP:INFOCOL. Capankajsmilyo(Talk 03:03, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Christian leader
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 February 18. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 07:24, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Infobox_Christian_leader
 * Infobox_religious_biography
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Template:PH 16 cities
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:31, 19 February 2019 (UTC) This is content hiding out in the template space without any obvious reason, and seems to have quite a bit of unnecessary complexity. It should be substed into each of the articles as appropriate and then deleted. Izno (talk) 02:48, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * PH 16 cities
 * Delete I agree with nom. Weird! --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:21, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete League of Cities of the Philippines vs. COMELEC and Cities of the Philippines seem to go into great detail about these issues. Adding this detailed stuff to each of the 16 seems too much detail. Adding brief text with links should be sufficient. Nigej (talk) 10:24, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Xslt-box
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:28, 19 February 2019 (UTC) unused template  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:09, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Xslt-box

Update after Andy Dingley WP:BOLDly reverted my change: Template with nothing but an image that can and should be moved directly to the article. There is not reason for an infobox template to house a single image for one article. -- Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:22, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep It's only 'unused' because you're going around removing it first!  Andy Dingley (talk) 00:19, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * oh FFS you have got to be kidding. The template contains nothing but an image. It seemed like a pretty open and shut case. You're vote (see WP:!VOTE) doesn't address the point of the nomination which is that the infobox contains nothing but an image that is used on 1 page. Why on earth does that need an infobox template? -- Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:22, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * So make an honest nomination. Not an obviously untrue one. Andy Dingley (talk) 00:25, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * it was honest... I made a totally legit and valid edit, placing the image on the page and removing the template. Then I nominated the template. You chose to revert my edit for absolutely no reason. It has nothing to do with the merits of the edit, you just didn't like my process. So that is YOUR issue. -- Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:28, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete - this is a plain image without any code at all added, so the template is actually a wasted template call. Also, semantically, the template is using a table (Infobox) to show an image, which should not be the way that information is presented. --Gonnym (talk) 00:29, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom and Gonnym. --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:21, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Seems that you can delete. Krauss (talk) 15:05, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete XSLT seems to use the image directly. Not clear why XSLT/Muenchian grouping can't do likewise. Nigej (talk) 19:06, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete without substitution. Use a simple image instead. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:31, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Venus crater
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The result of the discussion was delete Template:Infobox Venus crater after replacing with Template:Infobox crater data. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:25, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Infobox Venus crater with Template:Infobox crater data.
 * Infobox Venus crater
 * Infobox crater data

Only a couple of extra params that can be easily passed directly.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:03, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Replace and delete per nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:21, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Turn into wrapper like Infobox Mars crater and Infobox Mercury crater. – Jonesey95 (talk) 08:02, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * it currently is a wrapper. I'm saying there really isn't any need for a wrapper. The wrapper doesn't save much time it just hard codes 2 parameters. I think Infobox Mars crater & Infobox Mercury crater should also be merged. -- Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:06, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Replace and delete - this wrapper saves the editor the need to write "globe=venus", not really a reason to create a wrapper. --Gonnym (talk) 10:38, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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