Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 February 12



METRA templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:05, 19 February 2019 (UTC) All-caps redirects to the Metra family of s-line templates. Unused since December 2006. Mackensen (talk) 21:20, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * METRA color
 * METRA lines
 * METRA stations
 * S-line/METRA left/North Central
 * S-line/METRA right/BNSF Railway
 * S-line/METRA right/Heritage Corridor
 * S-line/METRA right/Milwaukee District/North
 * S-line/METRA right/Milwaukee District/West
 * S-line/METRA right/North Central
 * S-line/METRA right/SouthWest Service
 * Delete per nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 12:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 19:26, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:AtlantaCensusPop

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:04, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Only one transclusion, in Demographics of Atlanta. No foreseeable future use in other articles. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 20:35, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * AtlantaCensusPop
 * Subst and delete - Census populations. Unlikely to appear anywhere else. Nigej (talk) 20:56, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Australian Rules Football Salary Caps

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:04, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion, in AFL salary cap. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 20:33, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Australian Rules Football Salary Caps
 * Subst and delete - per nom. Nigej (talk) 22:05, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 12:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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More Amtrak s-line templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:06, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Unused Amtrak s-line templates; a mixture of prior deprecation and replacement by Module:Adjacent stations/Amtrak. Mackensen (talk) 19:11, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * S-line/Amtrak left/Blue Ridge
 * S-line/Amtrak left/Blue Water
 * S-line/Amtrak left/Capitols (1991-1998)
 * S-line/Amtrak left/Inter-American
 * S-line/Amtrak left/Lake Cities
 * S-line/Amtrak left/Lone Star
 * S-line/Amtrak right/Atlantic City Express
 * S-line/Amtrak right/Blue Ridge
 * S-line/Amtrak right/Blue Water
 * S-line/Amtrak right/California Zephyr (1983-1994)
 * S-line/Amtrak right/Calumet
 * S-line/Amtrak right/Capitols (1991-1998)
 * S-line/Amtrak right/Inter-American
 * S-line/Amtrak right/International
 * S-line/Amtrak right/Lake Cities
 * S-line/Amtrak right/Lone Star
 * S-line/Amtrak right/Maple Leaf
 * S-line/Amtrak right/San Joaquin (1974-1994)
 * Delete per nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 12:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Meso Labelled Map

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:16, 19 February 2019 (UTC) No article-space transclusions. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 18:03, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Meso Labelled Map
 * Delete - file:LittleIraq.png with labels. Basically unchanged since the day it was created 12 years ago. Unused except on one user page. Nigej (talk) 18:46, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom and above. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete or just delete if there is no article that uses it. --Gonnym (talk) 12:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:DetroitCensusPop

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:06, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 18:02, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * DetroitCensusPop
 * Subst and delete - Census populations. Links from History of Detroit. Unlikely to appear anywhere else. Nigej (talk) 18:31, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * DetroitMetroCensusPop is unused and can be deleted. Metro Detroit doesn't use it. Nigej (talk) 20:52, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per Nigej. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 12:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:TV program order

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:11, 19 February 2019 (UTC) The only possible use of this succession box falls foul of WP:NOTTVGUIDE. It should be deleted and all uses removed from all articles. -- wooden superman  16:44, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * TV program order
 * Keep, this template provides some knowledge of the drama serials that precede and succeed the drama. If we delete it we will have to figure these out ourselves, and I don't think it clicks for us. The Chinese Wikipedia has been having this, so why can't we? 2679D (talk) 00:37, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Because this is WP:NOT what Wikipedia is for. -- wooden  superman  09:12, 13 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - television articles don't use succession box outside of the infobox. No idea how this one slipped in. Agree with nom that this is WP:NOTTVGUIDE. --Gonnym (talk) 12:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - being the previous/next program on a particular channel is not a real connection. Nigej (talk) 20:57, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Amtrak

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:57, 19 February 2019 (UTC) This template wraps. It's a copy of except that it does not support one parameter (dab). It could be redirected to with no loss in functionality, but there seems little purpose in having multiple ways to wrap the same template, especially when that template can also simply be called directly. There are fifteen transclusions in total, and about half of them are because the template is discussed in various bits of template documentation. This name would also seem a good candidate for an Amtrak navigational template, which we don't currently have. Mackensen (talk) 16:36, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Amtrak
 * Support, per nom. Useddenim (talk) 18:46, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation navboxes

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:12, 19 February 2019 (UTC) WP:NOTTVGUIDE. -- wooden superman  16:22, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation drama templates
 * MBC weekend special dramas
 * MBC Weekend Soap Opera
 * MBC Wednesday–Thursday dramas
 * MBC Monday–Tuesday dramas
 * MBC Special Daily dramas
 * MBC Daily Soap Opera
 * MBC morning dramas
 * Delete - List of programs broadcast by Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation has long lists of these. They have little in common except that they were shown at the same time and day on the same channel. Nigej (talk) 16:33, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and above. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Nigej. --Gonnym (talk) 12:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Vol. 4 (Black Sabbath album)

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:07, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Propose deleting this template as it has no value. While this album achieved Silver and Platinum certifications and is notable, but only two songs have their own pages, which just shows that it is not THAT notable. – Sabbatino (talk) 13:13, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Vol. 4 (Black Sabbath album)
 * Delete - fails to add in navigation. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 13:42, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and above. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - while I'm sure the album is notable, there are just enough links for a navbox. --Gonnym (talk) 12:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete under WP:CSD as all links are included at Black Sabbath. Also WP:NENAN. -- wooden  superman  10:58, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:FNBSD Branches

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:13, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 06:07, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * FNBSD Branches
 * Subst and delete Lists the 5 branches of First National Bank South Dakota. Do we need sort of detail? Nigej (talk) 22:07, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom and above. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 12:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Constituencies in Lebanon

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:07, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 06:02, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Constituencies in Lebanon
 * Substitute and delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 12:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Citizenship of Iceland

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:13, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One article-space transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 06:01, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Citizenship of Iceland
 * Subst and delete - links from Demographics of Iceland and it is difficult to imagine another use. Nigej (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom and above. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Substitute and delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 12:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Abhisit Cabinet

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:13, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 06:00, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Abhisit Cabinet
 * Substitute and delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 12:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 19:23, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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2007 in Australian television templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:07, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Each of these has one transclusion, and all in 2007 in Australian television. However, these templates have no use outside of their sole transclusions in that page. Substitute and delete all. Steel1943 (talk) 05:52, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * 2007 in Australian television - Changes to Network Affiliation
 * 2007 in Australian television - Ending this year
 * 2007 in Australian television - Free-to-air premieres
 * 2007 in Australian television - Miniseries
 * 2007 in Australian television - Network Ten new international programming
 * 2007 in Australian television - Nine Network new international programming
 * 2007 in Australian television - Pay TV new international programming
 * 2007 in Australian television - Returning this year
 * 2007 in Australian television - SBS TV new international programming
 * 2007 in Australian television - Seven HD new international programming
 * 2007 in Australian television - Seven Network new international programming
 * 2007 in Australian television - Telemovies
 * 2007 in Australian television - TV Specials
 * Subst and delete per nom. Although it all seems rather excessive. Nigej (talk) 15:30, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. Also agree with Nigej, not sure if this content is really that encyclopaedic... --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Greenleft-electionresults
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:15, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 05:48, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Greenleft-electionresults
 * Subst and delete per nom. Links from GroenLinks. Nigej (talk) 15:33, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Nigej. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:UN budget
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:13, 19 February 2019 (UTC) No transclusions. Steel1943 (talk) 05:47, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * UN budget
 * Delete - Relates to 2006. Unused. Nigej (talk) 11:55, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Nigej. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Sheotherawards
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:15, 19 February 2019 (UTC) No article-space transclusions. Also, the template doesn't seem like it could be placed in any existing articles. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 05:46, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Sheotherawards
 * Delete - An old version of List of awards and nominations received by S.H.E. Nigej (talk) 11:47, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Nigej. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Longest lived Atlantic tropical cyclones
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:07, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One article-space transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 05:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Longest lived Atlantic tropical cyclones
 * Subst and delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 19:20, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom.  Sandy 141  56  :)  19:31, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Kuwait parliamentary election, 2008
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:14, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Another election tempate with one transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 05:42, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Kuwait parliamentary election, 2008
 * Subst and delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 19:19, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:List of Registered Historic Places in Florida topnav
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:07, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 05:41, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * List of Registered Historic Places in Florida topnav
 * Subst and delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per my rationale at Templates for discussion/Log/2014 July 29. Having a clickable map's code on a separate page is a good way to prevent unintentional damage.  It could very easily be edited by accident, and the detailed nature of the code means that you won't easily notice that you made a little change by accident. As a result, it's good to ensure that image maps be edited only by people who intend to edit them.  Moreover, the size of this page is significantly more than the size of the page where it's transcluded; someone intending to edit the non-map part of the article would need to go more than halfway down the page, and that increases the chance that you'll unwittingly hit another key (and thus damage the page) while pressing PageDown.  Nyttend (talk) 01:03, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Las Meninas
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:08, 19 February 2019 (UTC) No article-space transclusions. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 05:38, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Las Meninas
 * Subst and delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:SHL Labelled Map
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:08, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Map template with no transclusions. Steel1943 (talk) 05:37, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * SHL Labelled Map
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Swedish Hockey League currently uses 2018–19 SHL Labelled Map. Old versions like this one (from about 2015) and 2017–18 SHL Labelled Map don't seem to get used (even in eg 2017–18 SHL season). Other old ones have already been deleted. Seems a strange way of doing things. Nigej (talk) 19:14, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Liga Leumit Map 2007-08
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:08, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 05:35, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Liga Leumit Map 2007-08
 * Subst and delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. Similar to Ligat Al Map whose deletion is proposed elsewhere. Nigej (talk) 19:06, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Germanic diachronic
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 February 20. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:09, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Germanic_diachronic
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Template:Detainee names
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:09, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion ... of a few lines of text. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 04:25, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Detainee names
 * Delete we don't need this. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 00:10, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete What the ? No need for this template. Delete. --Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete Utterly pointless. Nigej (talk) 11:50, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Party political make-up of Croydon Council
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:25, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 04:24, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Party political make-up of Croydon Council
 * Subst and delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 18:56, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:KvS Scoreboard
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:25, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 04:23, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * KvS Scoreboard
 * Subst and delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 18:54, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Kyiv election, 2008 templates
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:09, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion each. Substitute and delete both. Steel1943 (talk) 04:20, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Kyiv election, 2008
 * Mayor of Kyiv election, 2008
 * Agree; at the time I made them I thought they would be featured on more then 1 page (for example on Kiev City Council).... but this did not happen and local elections have taken place in Kyiv since 2008 anyway.... —  Yulia Romero  • Talk to me!  22:40, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * For your convenience I substituted both templates in (Wikipedia article) 2008 Kiev local election just now. —  Yulia Romero  • Talk to me!  22:49, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Does that means at this point, you are okay with these templates being deleted? Steel1943  (talk) 00:18, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes (I am). —  Yulia Romero  • Talk to me!  14:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ...Well, in response, I was then planning on marking these both for WP:G7 speedy deletion, but both of the templates have several other editors who have edited them over the years, so IMO, the speedy deletions would not be valid. Guess we'll just have to wait it out. Steel1943  (talk) 14:13, 13 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Subst and delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 18:53, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Albanian asylum
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:25, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 04:18, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Albanian asylum
 * Subst and delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - what even is this? Since when do we replace article prose with transcluded templates? cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 16:21, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete Another Guantanamo Bay template past its sell-by date. Nigej (talk) 18:52, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Asian American Electoral votes
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:24, 19 February 2019 (UTC) No article-space transclusions. However, this information may not be present in Asian Americans or some other related page. But even then, this template can be substituted. Delete in lieu of placing the information into any article. Steel1943 (talk) 04:17, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Asian American Electoral votes
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 18:50, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Asian American income by ethnic group
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:24, 19 February 2019 (UTC) No article-space transclusions. The information in this template is most likely present somewhere in Asian Americans. Either way, this template uses outdated 2003 statistics. Delete. Steel1943 (talk) 04:15, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Asian American income by ethnic group
 * Delete per nom. Out of date. Not suited for template namespace. --Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 18:48, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Asian American education
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:24, 19 February 2019 (UTC) No article-space transclusions. Seems to be superseded by a chart at Asian Americans. Delete. Steel1943 (talk) 04:10, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Asian American education
 * Delete per nom. Out of date. Not suited for template namespace. --Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 18:47, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Progress in future enlargement of the European Union
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The result of the discussion was delete. The objections are not really valid. Keeping code a table in a separate template just so that it can be edited separately is not a valid reason for a template. A template is supposed to be reusable. There is no reason to reuse this thus no reason for a template. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:24, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion, clearly exclusive to the article which it is transcluded. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 04:08, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Progress in future enlargement of the European Union
 * Keep - it takes a complex piece of table and allows it to be edited separately from the rest of the article. Including it in the main article will complicate its editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spudgfsh (talk • contribs) 20:44, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - Dito. a.buchhorn (talk) 02:43, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete - If substituting it makes the article unwieldy then that tells us a lot about the article. Hiving-off complicated stuff to shorten the article is not the solution. Nigej (talk) 11:55, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * if that is the theory it'd better to make it a page in its own right with a summary on the original page. => Spudgfsh  ( Text Me! ) 18:17, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * In my view that would be much better. Nigej (talk) 11:14, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per my comments on Florida and Germanic languages above. Please make objections to article content on the article's talk page; objecting to the state of the article and proposing subst-and-delete makes no sense, since you're basically opposing yourself.  Nyttend (talk) 01:07, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Not really true. The reader of the article doesn't know whether the section is a template or not, and doesn't care either. It has been split in two simply to make life easier for editors. The immediate issue at hand is nothing to do with content but whether it should be a separate template or not. Substitute it back in and then there can be a discussion on the state of the article. Nigej (talk) 12:51, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Military of Sri Lanka2
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:22, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Transcludes Template:Infobox national military with fields filled out per the aforementioned template's instruction, so this being a standalone template wrapper is unnecessary. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 04:04, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Military of Sri Lanka2
 * Subst and delete Links from Sri Lanka Armed Forces. No other use. Nigej (talk) 19:02, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per above. --Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Asian American numbers in Metropolitan areas
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:22, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One article-space transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 04:01, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Asian American numbers in Metropolitan areas
 * Subst and delete - Links from Demographics of Asian Americans. Asian Americans 2007 metro estimates can be treated similarly (which rather strangely, given its name, also relates to the 2010 census). One relates to totals, the other to percentage. Nigej (talk) 17:44, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per above. --Tom (LT) (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Mass fraction table
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:22, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion, as well as a misleading name since it seems to apply specifically to the subject at Rocket. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 04:00, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Mass fraction table
 * Subst and delete Linked from Rocket where it is preceded by "Some notable mass fractions are found in the following table (some aircraft are included for comparison purposes):" giving the impression that this its only possible use. Nigej (talk) 17:34, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Devonian graphical timeline
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 February 20. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:03, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Devonian_graphical_timeline
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Template:Pew2013 and friends
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:21, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Template:Pew2002 and Template:Pew2007 have 0 transclusions. They both seem superseded by Template:Pew2013, which has only one transclusion. The information in Template:Pew2013 would probably be best as a substituted chart in the article which it is located, and can be updated whenever the newest year of information changes in the future. Delete Template:Pew2002 and Template:Pew2007. Substitute and delete Template:Pew2013. Steel1943 (talk) 03:51, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Pew2013
 * Pew2007
 * Pew2002
 * Subst 2013 and Delete all three - per nom. Despite the names, the templates only relate to views on homosexuality, in 2002, 2007 and 2013. The 2013 template is used once and supersedes the other two. As noted, a substituted table could readily be updated as required. Nigej (talk) 13:32, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Argentina's IRB world ranking
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:21, 19 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 03:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Argentina's IRB world ranking
 * Subst and delete - Links from Argentine Rugby Union. Can't find anything similar for other countries. Template says "Source: WR - Updated to 06/30/2008" but actually goes to end-2013 and has not be updated since. Nigej (talk) 17:28, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:New Hampshire Union Leader Institutional Pedigree Chart
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The result of the discussion was convert to SVG. (non-admin closure) Hhkohh (talk) 07:42, 27 February 2019 (UTC) One transclusion. The code can safely remain in the article which it is transcluded. The template namespace is primarily intended for templates intended to be used multiple times and/or substituted on multiple occasions. Substitute and delete. Steel1943 (talk) 03:43, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * New Hampshire Union Leader Institutional Pedigree Chart


 * Is there another namespace it could be moved to then? I spent a good ten hours or so researching and putting the diagram together, creating it as a table so that source referencing would work properly, and the whole thing was immediately reverted.  My experience with thoroughly researched code-intensive content being moved from a template and dumped into articles is completely the opposite of that being a "safe" procedure, in fact what usually happens is that the editors willing to delete thoroughly-referenced content with the flick of a wrist, who would not normally go to the effort to click through to a template, immediately start hacking this sort of thing away piece by piece and thereby cranking their edit counts up as soon as it's more directly deletable with less effort.  I would gladly have made this an SVG image and put it on Commons, and thereby have avoided the casual deletionist problem, but then the referencing wouldn't work. -- ▸₷ truthious Ⓑ andersnatch ◂ 13:07, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I started an SVG version in case the consensus is Nyttend's proposal. -- ▸₷ truthious Ⓑ andersnatch ◂ 16:19, 15 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Substitute and delete - or, even better, integrate into the article as text. Seems to me that this highly complex diagram is completely out of proportion to the importance of the content. Nigej (talk) 13:22, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Convert to SVG. Struthious Bandersnatch, you can just place the references at the bottom of the image, or you can place them on the file description page.  Keep file until SVG is made, and then delete because it won't be needed anymore.  Nyttend (talk) 01:12, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * convert to svg per above; but, keep it until the svg conversion is complete. Frietjes (talk) 12:39, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Costliest U.S. Atlantic hurricanes 1900–2010
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure)  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:10, 19 February 2019 (UTC) No transclusions. Seems to have been superseded by Template:Costliest U.S. Atlantic hurricanes. Steel1943 (talk) 03:41, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Costliest U.S. Atlantic hurricanes 1900–2010


 * I guess we don't need two very similar infobox templates, but the supposed replacement is deeply flawed by not adjusting USD damage amounts to inflation. That makes the numbers incomparable. --bender235 (talk) 12:49, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I fixed the issue with the replacement. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 17:33, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Why did you hard-code the adjusted numbers rather than using Inflation? --bender235 (talk) 17:36, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The numbers were hard-coded because I used the inflation adjusted values provided by the NHC. If I were to use the inflation template, the values would be incorrect. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 18:10, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * They would not be incorrect. The template Inflation uses the official GDP deflator, which is the only correct way of adjusting the damage values for inflation. --bender235 (talk) 19:37, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes, they would be incorrect considering a US government agency that happens to be the RSMC for the Atlantic posted an official inflation adjusted list that differs with the inflation template. In this case, the NHC is what we need to go with. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 21:56, 13 February 2019 (UTC)


 * (Collapsed discussion moved to ensure that this discussion regarding Template:Costliest U.S. Atlantic hurricanes does not get lost here, and can continue on the most pertaining talk page if need be.) Steel1943  (talk) 22:08, 13 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - Unused and not needed. Nigej (talk) 13:08, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Unused and not needed.Jason Rees (talk) 12:50, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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