Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 May 21



Template:BT fare

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:10, 31 May 2019 (UTC) Per WP:NOTTRAVEL it is not the job of an encyclopedia to inform readers how much the bus costs, transcluded on five articles all of which appear non-notable anyhow. Ajf773 (talk) 22:21, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * BT fare
 * I know this is only partly related but should parameters like fare be removed from Infobox bus line per WP:NOTTRAVEL? I just made the template to have editors only edit one area to update the fare, but if the fare shouldn't be displayed on any of the articles than I don't mind if this gets deleted, but if the fares are staying, oppose deleting this template. – Brandon XLF   (t@lk)  22:51, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree those parameters should be removed from the infobox as well. I discussed this on the talk page but didn't have much response. Ajf773 (talk) 22:58, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * (forgot to ping) If you want to startup a discussion to remove fare and cash again, I'd support it, I just think if we're getting rid of this because of that guideline, we should get rid of all instances of bus cost. – Brandon XLF   (t@lk)  01:01, 22 May 2019 (UTC)


 * delete, WP:NOTTRAVEL. Frietjes (talk) 17:44, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Ministry of Railways (Pakistan)

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:07, 31 May 2019 (UTC) Fails WP:NENAN: it has only two links apart from the head article. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:13, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Ministry of Railways (Pakistan)
 * delete - no need for template for this. Use 'see also'. Störm   (talk)  16:03, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Anne Rice Vampire Chronicles tree

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 June 5. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:04, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Anne_Rice_Vampire_Chronicles_tree
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Template:High heels

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Footwear. Brands should be removed from the final product. Primefac (talk) 15:54, 2 June 2019 (UTC) Propose merging Template:High heels with Template:Footwear.
 * High heels
 * Footwear

Arguably redudant, much of the essential contents are already in destination template. As for the "Brands/firms people", quite some warning of commercial content there, isn't it? I doubt listing this secltion, for whatever criteria, is motivated in such a template. PPEMES (talk) 21:44, 13 May 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * delete High heels as this should already be a subset of footwear. any need for sub-classification can be handled by categories. Frietjes (talk) 17:46, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Parts of a crown

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Types of crowns. No opposition to the proposal, and no prejudices from an administrative standpoint with renaming the final template if that makes more sense. Primefac (talk) 15:56, 2 June 2019 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Parts of a crown with Template:Types of crowns.
 * Parts of a crown
 * Types of crowns

Might as well merge to form a "Crowns" template? PPEMES (talk) 21:39, 13 May 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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Template:Culture of The Bodos

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:09, 31 May 2019 (UTC) Confusing template that is not helpful to find the info it suggests to give The Banner  talk 10:45, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Culture of The Bodos
 * delete, looks like a failed cut-and-paste of another sidebar. Frietjes (talk) 23:52, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. The template generates the redirect which points to the DAB page Indian mythology. The way it does this is buried somewhere deep within the code, and it's unclear whether a good link would be to one entry on the DAB page or to several. Narky Blert (talk) 10:36, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Bangladesh district

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The result of the discussion was delete. After converting uses to Infobox settlement Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:19, 29 May 2019 (UTC) Replace and delete
 * Infobox Bangladesh district

District-specific wrapper for Infobox settlement, with limited transclusions, on pretty stable sets of articles. Subst:itution will reduce the maintenance overhead, reduce the cognitive burden for editors, and enable articles to benefit more immediately from improvements to the current parent template.

Note: Despite being named "Infobox settlement" the template is not only used for settlements. Per its documentation, Infobox settlement is "used to produce an Infobox for human settlements (cities, towns, villages, communities) as well as other administrative districts, counties, provinces, et cetera—in fact, any subdivision below the level of a country".

Other entities (divisions, upazilas, cities, villages ...) already transclude Infobox settlement directly. 78.54.90.109 (talk) 09:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

user:Jo-Jo_Eumerus - could you close? 77.13.4.53 (talk) 09:16, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Replace and delete per nom. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:12, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Replace and delete per nom.--Darwinek (talk) 19:37, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Replace and delete per nom. TerraCyprus (talk) 08:53, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Alex Skolnick Trio

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:04, 5 June 2019 (UTC) This non-notable band was merged into one of its member's' article and that article is the only one that uses the template since all of the albums also redirect back to the member's article. Aspects (talk) 05:28, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Alex Skolnick Trio
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Template:Copyright-EU
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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Intellectual property laws of the European Union. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:05, 5 June 2019 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Copyright-EU with Template:Intellectual property laws of the European Union.
 * Copyright-EU
 * Intellectual property laws of the European Union

Overlapping templates. Intellectual property laws of the European Union was just recently merged with Trademark-EU per this TfD for the same reasons. Gonnym (talk) 19:40, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Make it so, the navbox with red links clobbers Special:WantedPages with inflated numbers. –84.46.52.219 (talk) 07:33, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

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Template:Away goals
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 June 2. Primefac (talk) 16:06, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Away_goals
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Template:Death in Germanic mythology
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 June 5. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:06, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Death_in_Germanic_mythology
 * Germanic_paganism
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Template:Kings of Italy (1861–1946)
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:07, 5 June 2019 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Kings of Italy (1861–1946) with Template:Heads of State of Italy.
 * Kings of Italy (1861–1946)
 * Heads of State of Italy

Not sure. But following the precedent of the merged Template:Heads of state of France as well as Template:Former monarchies Italian peninsula, ought the same thing happen to the 'heads of state' of 'Italy'? PPEMES (talk) 20:22, 9 April 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Oppose. I think this oversimplifies the notion of "Italy". The name is applied—and misapplied—to different states of varying boundaries, societies, languages, etc. The economy of one single template may seem appealing, but I think it's misleading to casual readers. The encyclopedia should help people to see factual nuances more clearly. For the same reason, I don't think the bloated mega-merge of Template:Heads of state of France was decided correctly, and I don't think it's a viable precedent for anything. SteveStrummer (talk) 20:51, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

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Template:Antique Kings of Italy
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:07, 5 June 2019 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Antique Kings of Italy with Template:Heads of State of Italy.
 * Antique Kings of Italy
 * Heads of State of Italy

Per below. PPEMES (talk) 20:22, 9 April 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Oppose. Basically, oversimplification. See below. SteveStrummer (talk) 20:55, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

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Template:Viking Invasion of England
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 June 5. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:08, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
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 * Norse_activity_in_the_British_Isles
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