Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 September 15



RJLUK templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:54, 23 September 2019 (UTC) These templates were created 6.5 years ago, and they're not in use outside of a few sandboxes in the user space of an editor who has been indefinitely blocked for almost 5 years. Included in this nomination are a few copies of templates in that user's space that at best should have been history merged into the live templates long ago.  Imzadi 1979  →   23:33, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * RJLUK
 * RJLUKDLSnotice
 * RJLUKfooter
 * RJLUKhdr
 * RJLUKkm


 * Delete per above. --Rschen7754 18:24, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Unprotected

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 October 2. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:16, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Unprotected
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Union Pacific Railroad s-line templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:59, 23 September 2019 (UTC) templates for the Union Pacific Railroad. Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Union Pacific Railroad. All transclusions replaced. Mackensen (talk) 14:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * UPRR color
 * UPRR lines
 * UPRR stations
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SbX s-line templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:59, 23 September 2019 (UTC) Unused templates for the sbX bus rapid transit service. Reimplemented in Module:Adjacent stations/Omnitrans. Mackensen (talk) 14:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * SbX lines
 * SbX stations
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MetroLink (St. Louis) s-line templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * STML color
 * STML lines
 * STML stations
 * STML style


 * S-line/STML left/Blue
 * S-line/STML left/Red
 * S-line/STML right/Blue
 * S-line/STML right/Red

templates for MetroLink (St. Louis). Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/MetroLink (St. Louis). All transclusions replaced. There are four dependent s-line data modules that should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 14:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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Santa Fe, Prescott and Phoenix Railway s-line templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * SFP&P color
 * SFP&P lines
 * SFP&P stations


 * S-line/SFP&P left/Phoenix Branch
 * S-line/SFP&P right/Phoenix Branch

templates for the Santa Fe, Prescott and Phoenix Railway, a predecessor of the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway. Folded in to Module:Adjacent stations/Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway. All transclusions replaced. There are two dependent s-line data modules that should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 14:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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SESHR s-line templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:01, 23 September 2019 (UTC) Unused templates for the proposed Southeast High Speed Rail Corridor. No transclusions; if this capability were ever needed it would be implemented with an Adjacent stations module. Mackensen (talk) 14:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * SESHR lines
 * SESHR stations
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Penn Central s-line templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:01, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Penn Central color
 * Penn Central lines
 * Penn Central stations


 * S-line/Penn Central left/Cincinnati – Cleveland
 * S-line/Penn Central left/Indianapolis – Cleveland
 * S-line/Penn Central left/nyc main
 * S-line/Penn Central right/nyc main

Unused templates for the Penn Central Transportation Company. No transclusions. There are four dependent s-line data modules that should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 14:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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Buffalo Metro Rail s-line templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:02, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * NFTA color
 * NFTA infobox header
 * NFTA lines
 * NFTA stations
 * NFTA style


 * S-line/NFTA left/Metro Rail
 * S-line/NFTA right/Metro Rail

templates for the Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority, which operates the Buffalo Metro Rail. Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/NFTA. All transclusions replaced. There are two dependent s-line data modules that should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 14:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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New York Central Railroad predecessor s-line templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:03, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * CCC&StL color
 * CCC&StL lines
 * CCC&StL stations
 * LS&MS color
 * LS&MS lines
 * LS&MS stations


 * S-line/CCC&StL left/Cleveland-Cincinnati
 * S-line/CCC&StL left/main
 * S-line/LS&MS left/Detroit Branch
 * S-line/LS&MS left/main
 * S-line/LS&MS right/Detroit Branch
 * S-line/LS&MS right/Oil City Branch
 * S-line/LS&MS right/Youngstown Branch
 * S-line/LS&MS right/main

templates for the Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago and St. Louis Railway and Lake Shore and Michigan Southern Railway, predecessors of the New York Central Railroad. Folded in to Module:Adjacent stations/New York Central Railroad. All transclusions replaced. There are eight dependent s-line data modules that should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 14:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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Milwaukee Road s-line templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:04, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * MILW color
 * MILW lines
 * MILW stations


 * S-line/MILW left/Edgeley Branch
 * S-line/MILW left/North
 * S-line/MILW left/Northern Montana Division
 * S-line/MILW left/Omaha
 * S-line/MILW left/Wessington Springs-La Crosse
 * S-line/MILW left/West
 * S-line/MILW left/main
 * S-line/MILW right/Aberdeen-Manilla
 * S-line/MILW right/Wessington Springs-La Crosse
 * S-line/MILW right/main

templates for the Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad (the "Milwaukee Road"). Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Milwaukee Road. All transclusions replaced. There are 10 dependent s-line data modules that should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 14:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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Zentralbahn s-line templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:04, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Zentralbahn color
 * Zentralbahn lines
 * Zentralbahn stations


 * S-line/Zentralbahn left/
 * S-line/Zentralbahn right/

templates for the Zentralbahn. Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Zentralbahn. All transclusions replaced. There are two dependent s-line data modules that should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 14:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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Berner Oberland Bahn s-line templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:05, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Berner Oberland Bahn color
 * Berner Oberland Bahn lines
 * Berner Oberland Bahn stations


 * S-line/Berner Oberland Bahn left/
 * S-line/Berner Oberland Bahn right/

templates for the Bernese Oberland Railway. Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Berner Oberland-Bahnen, which was broadened in scope to include the Schynige Platte Railway. All transclusions replaced. There are two dependent s-line data modules that should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 14:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:LseB
<div class="boilerplate tfd vfd tfd-closed" style="background-color: #e3f9df; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;">
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:05, 23 September 2019 (UTC) Unused. Template:London Stock Exchange works for mobile users. There is no way to have a separate link for mobile users anyway. Svgalbertian (talk) 14:08, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * LseB
 * Delete No reason to link to the mobile website for some links but not others. --Trialpears (talk) 14:49, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Public holidays in the United States
<div class="boilerplate tfd vfd tfd-closed" style="background-color: #e3f9df; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;">
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:16, 2 October 2019 (UTC) Too long for a navbox. I suggest we either delete it or turn it into a list. --<b style="color:#000000;font-family:Rockwell;">Bageense</b><sup style="color:#AA0000;">(disc.) 23:20, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Public holidays in the United States

--CONVERT AND THEN DELETE. Much too long for a template, but the information could go into a list article. CONVERT TO LIST. THEN DELETE TEMPLATE.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 19:51, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , I will convert to a list when the discussion ends. So I ask someone to let me know when I can start working. --<b style="color:#000000;font-family:Rockwell;">Bageense</b><sup style="color:#AA0000;">(disc.) 20:41, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking on that task. Admin will tell you when that happens.--13:34, 7 September 2019 (UTC)


 * move to article-space and reformat as a list article, this will preserve any edit history. Frietjes (talk) 14:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep, is this serious? The template is fine in length, the sole complaint, that it is "too long", does not take WP:NAVBOX guideline language and the templates already accomplished coherent, orderly, and understandable arrangement into consideration. In other words, the navbox covers its topic well and coherently, as required by the guideline. And because the only nomination argument presented is that the navbox is "much too long for a template", this nomination should be immediately closed as Keep. Please also remember that templates, lists, and categories are totally separate subjects according to the guideline language. In fact, "turn it into a list" isn't a contributing reason to delete any template, per the well reasoned guideline language although I've seen it, as here, incorrectly used many times in these arguments. Sorry about the excess circus-like boldfacing but this discussion is at the closing point and could be closed any minute. Randy Kryn (talk) 17:13, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The top of the Categories, lists, and navigation templates page reads:
 * "This page in a nutshell: Categories, lists, and navigation templates are three different ways to group and organize articles. Although they each have their own advantages and disadvantages, each method complements the others.
 * I'd hope that regulars here would drop the 'turn into a list' argument forevermore after reading and understanding the governing Wikipedia guideline page. Randy Kryn (talk) 17:31, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep While the template is really large there's no problem with the topic. There should definetly be a main article here, but that should be solvable. --Trialpears (talk) 22:20, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:04, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep, even if it were longer if wouldn't be a problem. There are even bigger navboxes out there and they are all valuable. brad. (talk) 05:41, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * This is coming up on a month, and two weeks since the relisting. Should be good to close, and I'd do so as a participant but I don't like to do that. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:01, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , good to close? Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:16, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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