Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 August 21



Template:Igloo topicon

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 August 29. Primefac (talk) 01:33, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Igloo_topicon
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Template:OnlyOffline

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 August 29. Primefac (talk) 01:34, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Technology topics

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 August 29. Primefac (talk) 01:35, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Cognition, perception, emotional state and behaviour symptoms and signs

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Disorders of consciousness per the proposal. Primefac (talk) 16:07, 1 September 2020 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Cognition, perception, emotional state and behaviour symptoms and signs with Template:Disorders of consciousness.
 * Cognition, perception, emotional state and behaviour symptoms and signs
 * Disorders of consciousness

I propose move the consciousness-related information to Disorders of consciousness, and then rename this template Symptoms and signs related to perception, emotion and behaviour for consistency with other templates in this set (see alternate proposal at this date) Tom (LT) (talk) 02:52, 16 July 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge per nom. Rename if desired. --Izno (talk) 13:57, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Strongly oppose They don't seem similar. Amousey (they/them pronouns) (talk) 23:43, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 13:38, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * @ thanks for commenting, fair enough. What about a move of the "Alteration of consciousness" section on the 'Cognition, perception, emotional state...' template to "Disorders of consciousness"? --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:10, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure it needs merging with anything. - Amousey (they/them pronouns) (talk) 10:03, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * That is not a strong argument against merging. &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 06:20, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 22:40, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Query How would a merge help the reader to navigate between articles of interest and relevance? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pbsouthwood (talk • contribs) 10:27, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * @ It would place all the links relating to Disorders of Consiousness in one template, making them easier to navigate between (currently they are split half and half). --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:51, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support as that would clearly further the purposes of having navboxes, provided that the merged navbox is well designed. &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 06:20, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
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Template:2020–21 Cypriot First Division Regular Season table

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:42, 28 August 2020 (UTC) template not needed after league table moved to 2020–21 Cypriot First Division Boothy m (talk) 20:32, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 2020–21 Cypriot First Division Regular Season table
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 00:18, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Е

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:42, 28 August 2020 (UTC) Unused template with confusing title (Cyrillic Ye). 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:52, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Е
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 00:18, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 *  Delete This is supposed to be for Euler's number, e, but it is not really doing that. Techie3 (talk) 15:56, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
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 Template:Episode table/top and Template:Episode table/bottom
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The result of the discussion was delete. Any extant uses should be replaced with the related parameter in Episode table to ensure minimal disruption. Primefac (talk) 15:56, 13 September 2020 (UTC) No need for these templates, as Episode table uses episodes for this exact purpose. If WP:PEIS is an issue, then Episode table and Episode list can be converted to directly-invoked modules via an edit similar to that seen here. -- / Alex /<sub style="color:#008">21  09:09, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Episode table/top
 * Episode table/bottom

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 * Keep Even when directly invoking the module, nesting dozens of episode list templates (that in turn often have have nested citation templates) results in a much larger WP:PEIS than using the top and bottom templates. Invoking the modules directly should only be a last resort, as the notation is intimidating to editors and has compatibility issues with VisualEditor. --Ahecht ([[User talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:-.3em;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK
 * , is there a reason why, instead of creating new templates, you did not just use the dontclose parameter, as detailed in the template's documentation? See the examples listed at User:Alex 21/sandbox; the latter two examples provide exactly the same functionality. -- / Alex /<sub style="color:#008">21  15:29, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I originally had them at Episode table top and Episode table bottom in line with templates like navboxes top, collapse top, Archive top, and Hidden archive top. I honestly don't remember why I moved it to be a sub-template instead of a completely separate one. --Ahecht ([[User talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:-.3em;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK
 * That's nice, but it doesn't answer my question: why, instead of creating new templates (location being irrelevant), did you not just use the dontclose parameter, as detailed in the template's documentation? -- / Alex /<sub style="color:#008">21  16:06, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , your answer would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. -- / Alex /<sub style="color:#008">21  04:39, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , taking a look at the pages that use these templates, I came across this edit. This table isn't transcluded anywhere. How does this concern or relate to WP:PEIS? Are there other non-transcluded tables you've made these changes to? Have you had a change to look at the examples in my sandbox yet? -- / Alex /<sub style="color:#008">21  03:40, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Ahecht. Delete per nom and Alex 21. TheTVExpert (talk) 14:44, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , can you also give a reason as to why separate templates should exist for a purpose that's already satisfied by the parameter stated above? -- / Alex /<sub style="color:#008">21  15:34, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * forgot this parameter existed. Changed my !vote above. TheTVExpert (talk) 15:49, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Techie3 (talk) 11:54, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - I recall some tension re this matter at AN/ANI a few weeks ago? Two comments. First, looks like y does do this exact thing, hence making these templates redundant, and the top/close approach shouldn't be recommended/encouraged anyway. Second, whatever is going on at Doctor Who – The Companion Chronicles seems messy. Modules shouldn't really be directly invoked in an article like that, and it isn't friendly syntax, but I think that issue would be addressed by the dontclose approach as suggested by Alex, equally as much as by two new templates? Not to mention the bottom is calling a module to return  ? Anyway, overall, support deletion. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 14:02, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
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Template:La Red programming
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:42, 28 August 2020 (UTC) Wikipedia is WP:NOTTVGUIDE and this template is exactly this. These are not original programming created for the network, nor even programs produced by them and aired elsewhere, but a list of programs that aired at a certain unknown date (seeing as content-wise it was edited ~4 years ago). Gonnym (talk) 08:52, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * La Red programming
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 00:18, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Line 1, Chennai Metro
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Techie3 (talk) 05:39, 28 August 2020 (UTC) Unused and superceded by Template:Phase I, Chennai Metro - Timbaaa -> ping me 02:20, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Line 1, Chennai Metro
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 00:18, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, as recommended. AlgaeGraphix (talk) 03:18, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as no use. -- Feroze Ahmad 2 (talk) 13:38, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
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