Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 August 28



Template:White Collar

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The result of the discussion was keep. Primefac (talk) 20:39, 5 September 2020 (UTC) The template is useless and adds nothing substantive while only appearing on 8 pages. There is no need for this navbox. Terasail &#91;Talk&#93; 20:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * White Collar
 * Keep I see this template as being useful and linking relevant articles. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:25, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep There are enough articles to justify having a navigational template for the TV series. Aspects (talk) 13:40, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Marginally useful. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  02:34, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
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IPA help talk editnotices

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 15:57, 13 September 2020 (UTC) These IPA help pages are not "information pages" in the sense intended by Template:Wikipedia information pages talk page editnotice, as there is no policy or guideline that they are summarizing, and thus the edit notice makes no sense. After deletion, these pages need to be salted, or else the bot will immediately recreate them. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:16, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Sicilian
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Turkmen ‎
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Finnish
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Estonian
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Azerbaijani
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Turkish
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Hawaiian
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Welsh
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Manx
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Korean
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Scottish Gaelic
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Irish
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Occitan
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Ligurian
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Lombard
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Portuguese
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Venetian
 * Editnotices/Page/Help talk:IPA/Neapolitan
 * Delete These edit notices contain no useful information whatsoever. Even after being here for 5 (6?) years they leave me confused. I agree with deletion. @ what bot will tag them, and why? --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:25, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm talking about User:JJMC89 bot II, which automatically creates editnotices containing Wikipedia information pages talk page editnotice for all talk pages of information pages. I'm not challenging that bot task in general (which would mean nominating that template for deletion), but nominating several individual edit notices created by it when the template is clearly not useful. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:27, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, have we considered just asking to amend the bot and add exemptions if need be (rather than salt)? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 12:09, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Endorse asking the bot-operator to use an exemption-list. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  02:28, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
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Template:ARBGMORFC talk notice

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:05, 5 September 2020 (UTC) One usage on an RfC page, fully protected for some strange reason, not categorised (and no DS categories fit, because it's not really part of the ArbCom DS system of templates). Not really a 'template' either, its purpose seems to have been limited to that single RfC. Proposing subst+delete. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 17:04, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ARBGMORFC talk notice
 * will require an admin to tag the template ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 17:05, 28 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete unused and, as per nom, not part of the arbcom DS system. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:25, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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Template:YYYY in european football category header

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 18:14, 4 September 2020 (UTC) Redundant to the new generic Template:YYYY in continent association football category header. All uses of the nominated category have been replaced with YYYY in continent association football category header. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:28, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * YYYY in european football category header
 * Delete superceded.--Tom (LT) (talk) 00:25, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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Template:UE

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 September 13. Primefac (talk) 16:47, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * UE
 * Uselanguage
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Template:Active editnotice

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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:18, 7 September 2020 (UTC) As stated on the talk, this template is ineffective and pointless. Most editnotices don't have this on their talk/main page, most people don't know about this template (indeed, it has 282 transclusions), and (in the few places it is used) it just adds to the useless talk page banners. Its purpose was apparently categorisation, which should be done in the editnotices templates themselves anyway. Perhaps it was useful when created, but due to how editnotices are used now, it becomes a bit of a rather pointless template with a logically flawed premise. For general tracking we have Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Editnotices/, and specific child templates may also have their own tracking cats. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 13:07, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Active editnotice
 * Support per nom. Thanks for following through on this! &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 13:17, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Editnotice talks quite abit about this template. &rarr; Timbaaatalk 13:50, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Agree 100%. Having a template do something that is automated results in lots of wasted editor time and will be incomplete compared with the automated methods. Please link to the tracking method in the deletion summary.--Tom (LT) (talk) 00:25, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. I concur. --Bsherr (talk) 17:10, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: Unnecessary template. It is extremely easy to find an editnotice:  just go to Template:Editnotices/Page/whatever or Template:Editnotices/Group/whatever.  No need for a template to inform everyone that there is an active editnotice. Aasim 19:38, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: as nom points out, Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Editnotices/ already automates edit-notice tracking. — Goszei (talk) 07:38, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.  02:54, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * oppose For cat measures make this template blank -- PythonSwarm  Talk &#124;   Contribs   &#124;   Global 10:32, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 17:43, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Main article list of WBC Muaythai national Champions

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 18:13, 4 September 2020 (UTC) The template is not in use, has errors, and I believe has been abandoned. It appears to have been an attempt to separate the table from World Boxing Council Muaythai, but did not work, and other editors reverted and placed the table in that article. Additionally, the template as it currently is coded includes itself (mis-understanding of {main} I think), and fails to close the table it opens (showing up in a lint error report). —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 07:05, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Main article list of WBC Muaythai national Champions
 * Delete: per nom. &rarr; Timbaaatalk 13:54, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 00:25, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Note that I attempted to fix the technical errors to get the template out of Category:Pages with template loops and just because some things shouldn't stay broken.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  01:02, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Antivandalism

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The result of the discussion was userfy. If updates to WarningsSmall are desired based on this "look", feel free to hold a discussion at that template's talk page. Primefac (talk) 16:18, 13 September 2020 (UTC) One transclusion on a user page. Similar to the more widely used Template:WarningsSmall so as to be redundant. Bsherr (talk) 19:58, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Antivandalism

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per nom Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:32, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Template:WarningsSmall per WP:CONSOLIDATE. I do like a few things about it, such as the coloring, but we should only have one template serving this purpose. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 19:28, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Techie3 (talk) 16:00, 18 August 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Main question seems to be merge or delete.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 00:21, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I would support merge as the outcome if that brings this to a close. --Bsherr (talk) 02:17, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect: per Bsherr and Sdkb. &rarr; Timbaaatalk 13:52, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Userify or Subst and delete per Tom and ProcrastinatingReader. &rarr; Timbaaatalk 15:00, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Userify I don't see any point in merging a template with one use. I suggest this gets moved back to the user space of the editor who created it.--Tom (LT) (talk) 00:25, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * That user has been inactive for over ten years. --Bsherr (talk) 17:13, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * That is irrelevant imo. It doesn't make sense to just edit their userpage and change how it looks just because...? Yes, this template shouldn't be in template namespace. But there's no issue with userfying it, and if it were created in userspace in the first place we wouldn't be having this discussion. Substitute it or move it, sure, but deleting it (or changing the transclusion to WarningsSmall) just doesn't make sense imo. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 13:40, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Userfy also, completely different to Template:WarningsSmall and see no reason to change its usage entirely or delete it, which just seems bizarre. Just move it into their userspace, or subst+delete if you must, but a merge doesn't make sense. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 16:45, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Template:WarningsSmall. AlexKitfox (talk) 19:48, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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