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Template:Language politics

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 July 8. Primefac (talk) 23:37, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Language_politics
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Template:Cgtimeline

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The result of the discussion was subst and delete. Primefac (talk) 23:24, 8 July 2020 (UTC) Single-use template. Izno (talk) 21:07, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Cgtimeline
 * Subst and delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * SVGify or otherwise convert: substing would create a mess in the article, see the source code. --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 12:52, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This is in its own section in the target article. I see no reason not to subst. The article editors can decide whether it needs further resolution. --Izno (talk) 22:42, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:First Day of Winter

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 12:54, 8 July 2020 (UTC) Subst-only template that hasn't been used since 2008. Izno (talk) 21:02, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * First Day of Winter
 * Delete per nom. Unused and no need.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Timeline of Rabindranath Tagore

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The result of the discussion was "subst" and delete via histmerge. I know this may seem like an odd closing rationale, but the Timeline of Rabindranath Tagore is a transclusion of the template plus a sentence and a navbox. Preserving the history of the template is possible because there are not parallel histories. Primefac (talk) 23:30, 8 July 2020 (UTC) Single-use template. Izno (talk) 20:52, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Timeline of Rabindranath Tagore
 * Subst and delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * SVGify or otherwise convert: substing would create a mess in the article, see the source code. --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 12:52, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This is in its own section in the target article (in fact, it's the only part of the article). I see no reason not to subst. The article editors can decide whether it needs further resolution. --Izno (talk) 22:42, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:DocumentHistory

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The result of the discussion was delete after suitable replacement is made (looks like one of them is a merged from candidate). Primefac (talk) 23:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC) Two-use template that doesn't seem to have been adopted in the past decade. (I'm doubtful that article history couldn't do this now either.) Izno (talk) 20:46, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * DocumentHistory
 * Subst and delete per nom. Definitely no need; and makes life harder for end editors to have this sort of thing lying around.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Substing this as-is seems rough for the pages to which it will be substed. Any thought on whether that's the best way to deal with the template? --Izno (talk) 16:45, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:WikiProject Led Zeppelin Invite

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:05, 8 July 2020 (UTC) A subst-only template used only 4 times. Izno (talk) 20:29, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Led Zeppelin Invite
 * Not sure, but potentially keep until the Wikiproject itself is deleted? Not seeing the harm in keeing this--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This was substed 4 times in 2007 and never since. No-one is using it now... --Izno (talk) 03:18, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:WPBreakfast assessment level category-main

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 12:53, 8 July 2020 (UTC) Currently unused. TheImaCow (talk) 19:57, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * WPBreakfast assessment level category-main
 * Delete. We have other standard templates for this sort of thing. --Izno (talk) 16:12, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:WPBiography WorkGroupDiv banner

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 00:33, 8 July 2020 (UTC) Unused. TheImaCow (talk) 19:56, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * WPBiography WorkGroupDiv banner
 * Delete per nom. Unnecessary--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Gigiband

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 00:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC) Redundant. Not sure if this could be speedily deleted under G6, but this navbox serves no purpose: apart from being created under the wrong name, the only bluelink to any album or song is to an unrelated article. So the only bluelinks left are to Wikipedia articles for the band's record labels, which aren't directly related to the band. Richard3120 (talk) 19:47, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Gigiband
 * Delete per nom. Doesn't seem to have any actual links relating to the primary topic.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:WikiProject Trains/tasks

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as T3 by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:04, 1 July 2020 (UTC) Unused template. Izno (talk) 19:38, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Trains/tasks


 * Speedy delete - This is a remnant of a feature of the Trains WikiProject banner that is not used. The feature was better integrated into the project banner when the banner was redesigned in 2009. Slambo (Speak)  19:54, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Universal Pictures films

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) TheTVExpert (talk) 19:13, 7 July 2020 (UTC) Unused navbox; contains only one blue link. TheImaCow (talk) 18:44, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Universal Pictures films
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nominator's rationale. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:23, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Coquote

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The result of the discussion was redirect. to quote after ensuring parameter/output compatibility with that template. Primefac (talk) 23:38, 8 July 2020 (UTC) Not obviously necessary non-guideline compliant template (MOS:QUOTE, MOS:COLLAPSE) that forks Template:Quote and is used only 5 times. Izno (talk) 17:50, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Coquote
 * Delete per nom per WP:INFOCOL (roughly).--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Replace all transclusions with an appropriate quote template, then redirect to quote or another template that matches its functionality and parameters closely, if possible. It looks like it is a partial translation of ru:Template:Coquote; having a redirect in place can help when people are translating articles. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I support this, — Paleo Neonate  – 10:50, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Improve Olympic Sailing Article
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 00:32, 8 July 2020 (UTC) I think this template is overly specific and therefore, not needed. It's only used on about 100+ pages, and typically used on pages like this to add meaningless empty sections (Notes, Other Information, etc). At a push, it could be merged into Template:More citations needed section. This template was nominated about two years ago, but with little participation.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 17:41, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Improve Olympic Sailing Article
 * delete, I cleaned up all the articles (removing some pointless empty sections and replacing others with either empty section or more citations needed. the remaining appear to be from the boilerplate article templates being transcluded on the talk page, which seems kind of pointless (i.e., Sailing at the xxxx Summer Olympic event standard and Sailing at the xxxx Summer Olympics – Classpage). we should really remove the transclusions of Sailing at the xxxx Summer Olympic event standard and Sailing at the xxxx Summer Olympics – Classpage from the talk pages. Frietjes (talk) 21:27, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the clean-up work.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:29, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:2019–20 Pittsburgh Penguins Schedule
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The result of the discussion was delete. This is an empty copy of the schedule in 2019–20 Pittsburgh Penguins season Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:39, 7 July 2020 (UTC) Unused template. Even if it were to be used it a) wouldn't be its own template and b) wouldn't use deprecated NavFrame. Izno (talk) 17:38, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 2019–20 Pittsburgh Penguins Schedule
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:TotalHumanSpaceFlightByNation
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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. Pulling this since this isn't really the point of the exercise and it seems to be doing fruitful things. No prejudice against someone renominating. Izno (talk) 17:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC) Single-use template. Nothing so excessive as to need its own page. Izno (talk) 16:37, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * TotalHumanSpaceFlightByNation
 * On review, I'm actually concerned that this is an automated task affecting mainspace content without an approval. Thoughts are welcome. --Izno (talk) 16:40, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The reason I bumped into this template is that I am trying to remove uses of deprecated, so it is also possible I will be reverted on that point. --Izno (talk) 16:43, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Is this not a minor modification (transcluding a template that the bot edits, rather than a direct edit of the given page) of the task that was approved at Bots/Requests for approval/SpaceFactsBot? --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 16:46, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * That was not linked on the user page. oof. Good start there. --Izno (talk) 16:48, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
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Template:First Day Of Fall
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:21, 7 July 2020 (UTC) Subst-only template that appears never to have been used. Izno (talk) 16:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * First Day Of Fall
 * Delete per nom. Unnecessary.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nominator's rationale. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:23, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:MTRinterchange/TWH/Bus
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:20, 7 July 2020 (UTC) Single-use template. May not be generally valuable per WP:NOT. Izno (talk) 16:21, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * MTRinterchange/TWH/Bus
 * Delete per nom. Completely agree.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nominator's rationale. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:23, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:MTRinterchange/TWH/Minibus
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:20, 7 July 2020 (UTC) single-use template Izno (talk) 16:20, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * MTRinterchange/TWH/Minibus
 * Delete per nom. Completely agree.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nominator's rationale. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:22, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Music eras
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 July 7. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:17, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Games based on Arthurian legends
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:12, 7 July 2020 (UTC) A navbox based upon a common thematic element, the Arthurian legend (or, the Matter of Britain). That fails WP:NAVBOX: there is no single coherent subject like 'Arthurian legend video game'. Different styles of gameplay, different developers and the articles listed do not refer to each other. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 13:45, 22 June 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Games based on Arthurian legends
 * Keep the games are clearly linked by relationship to the arthur legend. I don't think there is a requirement that every navbox must have an article matching its title. The navbox has a clear scope. Second best option would be delete and convert to category. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:21, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for taking the time to reply. There actually already is Category:Video games based on Arthurian legend. I should've elaborated that because there isn't such a thing as 'Arthurian legend video game', it borders WP:OR / WP:SYNTH on how it is based upon the Arthurian legend. Dance of Death: Du Lac & Fey for instance is set in Victorian London of 1888; in Excalibur 2555 AD Merlin sends a young warrior to the future; in Blazing Dragons "the player controls Flicker, a dragon who lives in Camelhot castle". I just went through a bunch of the listed games, and some don't mention the Arthurian legend at all, I've taken those out of the navbox for now. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: Suit better as a category instead. No strong ties between the articles listed. OceanHok (talk) 11:23, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TheTVExpert (talk) 13:41, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I tend toward delete. These articles are not strongly related to each other. No opinion on the category alternative, though it doesn't strongly call to me as a valuable addition itself. --Izno (talk) 16:23, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Izno. The articles aren't related to each other. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:21, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Ginga-ya
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 July 7. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:15, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Troy
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:11, 7 July 2020 (UTC) Unused, all links redirect to David Gemmell. TheImaCow (talk) 09:10, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Troy
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Tricolour-chairman
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:11, 7 July 2020 (UTC) Unused navbox, contains only one link TheImaCow (talk) 09:08, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Tricolour-chairman
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Too much vandalism
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:15, 7 July 2020 (UTC) Unused. WP:RFPP is for cases of "much vandalism". TheImaCow (talk) 08:54, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Too much vandalism
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:The past, present, and future of gibbons in China
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:11, 7 July 2020 (UTC) Unused, seems not very useful. TheImaCow (talk) 08:38, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The past, present, and future of gibbons in China
 * Delete per nom. This template is quite specific.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:The Worship Initiative
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:11, 7 July 2020 (UTC) Unused navbox; contains only one blue link. TheImaCow (talk) 08:36, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The Worship Initiative
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:The Water is My Sky
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:11, 7 July 2020 (UTC) Unused. TheImaCow (talk) 08:36, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The Water is My Sky
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:The Australian Institute of Food Science and Technology (AIFST)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:11, 7 July 2020 (UTC) Unused. TheImaCow (talk) 08:05, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The Australian Institute of Food Science and Technology (AIFST)
 * Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Town Councils in Singapore
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:10, 7 July 2020 (UTC) unused template, undeveloped for at least 6 months. none of the entries seem to have articles either -- AquaDTRS (talk) 03:39, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Heads of state of France
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The result of the discussion was split. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:09, 7 July 2020 (UTC) One could argue that having Macron and de Gaulle in the same template as Napoleon is not entirely insane but putting them alongside Louis XIV, Charlemagne, and Clovis I undoubtedly is. Also, "heads of state of the Franks" is a ridiculous Wikipedia neologism. This should be split into at least two templates, Template:Monarchs of France and Template:Presidents of France. Surtsicna (talk) 19:27, 21 June 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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 * Split per nom. I agree with nom. It does make more sense to portray these in different ways --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:50, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 01:52, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
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FART templates
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:09, 7 July 2020 (UTC) templates for the Regional Bus and Rail Company of Ticino (Ferrovie Autolinee Regionali Ticinesi...). Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/FART. All transclusions replaced. There is one dependent s-line data module that should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 00:43, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Monuments and memorials removed during the George Floyd protests
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 July 7. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:36, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
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