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Template:Non-free image to be reduced

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 May 26. (non-admin closure) TheTVExpert (talk) 20:55, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Non-free_image_to_be_reduced
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Template:Buddy Jewell

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 May 26. (non-admin closure) TheTVExpert (talk) 20:55, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Ethnic groups of India

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) TheTVExpert (talk) 20:54, 26 May 2020 (UTC) This is quite a treat. It's used as a navbox, but instead of presenting the links in a neat list, it spreads them across a huge tree diagram (with Indians as the root, and Indo-Aryans, Dards, and the like as the intermediate groups), and with each final branch also listing the native name (in the native scirpt), and the range of religious identifications. Now, the template has left behind some of its worst oddities (like subgroups for "Mongoloids" or "Tribals"), but its whole organising principle is dubious – categories like "Dravidian" or "Iranic" make sense only for languages, not for ethnic groups. The only way is for the template to be torn down and built anew. But then what are the inclusion criteria going to be like? I would happily defer to someone with good understanding of the ethnic landscape of the subcontinent, but from the little I know, it seems arbitrary to have entries for ethnolinguistic groups like Dogras and the Nicobarese but not for the Jats or the Nair. Any reasonable inclusion criterion will entail the template listing most of the articles from the category, and that's hundreds upon hundreds of them. That's too much for a single navbox. Maybe it will make sense to have individual navboxes for each state of India, but it's not going to work for the whole country. – Uanfala (talk) 01:32, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ethnic groups of India
 * , yes, the tree diagram is cumbersome and outdated presentation wise. List sounds like a much better idea. In line with your comments, I would restrict the scope to linguistic groups of India. Ethnic groups are much harder define in the subcontinent due to intersections from caste, sects etc. Fundamental_metric_tensor (talk) 15:22, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: What about transforming into Template:Tree list instead? PPEMES (talk) 14:28, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TheTVExpert (talk) 20:50, 19 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Information is absolutely not as simple as the template presents. It is not a nice idea to create template about information which is subject to varying views. Dhawangupta (talk) 17:07, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Oh good grief. How did this remain undetected for so long? The entire thing seems to be based on the idea that all Indian ethnic groups share a common origin, which has been debunked by historians, linguists, biologists, and archaeologists, several times over. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:15, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Private colleges and universities in Washington (state)

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 May 26. (non-admin closure) TheTVExpert (talk) 19:36, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Private_colleges_and_universities_in_Washington_(state)
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Template:AfD-notice-rand

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) TheTVExpert (talk) 02:58, 26 May 2020 (UTC) Template was not updated since 2011, test appears done a LONG time ago. I also do not think this template has a good use either. Aasim 02:38, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:41, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
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