Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 September 23



Template:R from historic name

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 October 5. (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 23:34, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * R_from_historic_name
 * R_from_former_name
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Template:Carleton S. Coon Racial Definitions

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:27, 3 October 2020 (UTC) Unused, an apparent very old user experiment. The maps linked are original research, as on inspection they are not faithful reproductions from Coon's publications. The template is problematic due to the contentious subject matter (science no longer recognizes these human race theories), which itself can be considered part of Arbcom's race and intelligence discretionary sanctions. So it's a bit of a bear trap waiting to be set off, frankly. Fæ (talk) 16:06, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Carleton S. Coon Racial Definitions
 * Delete per nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 04:37, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Finnish municipality

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 18:39, 7 October 2020 (UTC) Replace (subst:) with Infobox settlement and delete
 * Infobox Finnish municipality

"Finnish municipality"-specific wrapper for Infobox settlement. Subst:itution will reduce the maintenance overhead, reduce the cognitive burden for editors, and enable articles to benefit more immediately from improvements to the current parent template. TfD outcome 2 March 2020 was delete, 22 March 2020 it was in DRV Deletion review/Log/2019 March 22. The relist was done, Templates for discussion/Log/2019 April 6, had a dubious closing "no consensus" despite that the votes before relist were:
 * Subst and delete
 * Delete after replacement
 * Keep until replacement
 * SPEEDY CLOSE ("is a wrapper since creation" and the IP proposed it itself for substitution)

There was another Deletion review/Log/2019 June 9, which was closed with This means that the "no consensus" closure of the TfD is maintained by default. I'm not giving much weight to the opinion by the IP with an edit-count of one. In that DRV a user said Today I separated all data from the infobox, the replacement could now be done similar to how data is handled for the municipalities in the Netherlands. It was also said The vote was clear, only one opposer, still you decided to call it "no consensus". . But the one person closing as "no consensus" again supported his view stating I think it would be more productive to spend 7 days on a new Tfd (as I mentioned you could do so on my talk page), likely getting a consensus for subst and delete, rather than spending 7 days at DRV

But it seems people got tired by the closures and relists and no one started a new TfD, despite the actual template code now being much better suited to substitution than it was after the initial outcome "delete". 77.183.162.229 (talk) 16:00, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * keep for now, we need to figure out what to do with the entries in "Category:Pages using infobox Finnish municipality with unknown parameters", in particular the province parameter. if we substitute the template, this information will be lost and it's not clear if we should be keeping it.  also, we may want to do something with the various "official" parameters, possibly indicating the official language for the municipality. Frietjes (talk) 15:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Category:Pages using infobox Finnish municipality with unknown parameters is empty now. TerraCyprus (talk) 18:16, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Replace and delete. Citing from Provinces of Finland : "makeup was changed drastically in 1997, when the number of the provinces was reduced from twelve to six. This effectively made them purely administrative units, as linguistic and cultural boundaries no longer followed the borders of the provinces. The provinces were eventually abolished at the end of 2009." One would also have to mark which set of provinces to display. Forsome reason the province parameter was removed 31 December 2009  and it seems to correct to do so, since the parameters are to be used for current administrative hierarchy and not the history of administration. If you want to store the history, then why only mention one province and not all the provinces until 1634? Apart from that, it would be nice if in the Baltic Sea region we would have one box only and not one extra template with extra parameters just for the municipalities of Finland. In Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Sweden it was standardized already. The data itself is outsourced so no problem with that. 315 transclusions in article space. JelgavaLV (talk) 20:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Replace (subst:) with Infobox settlement and delete. Several types of provinces existed, all now defunct, they don't belong into the Infobox, values have been removed from display long ago and according to Category:Pages using infobox Finnish municipality with province parameter only exist at 66% of the pages. TerraCyprus (talk) 20:44, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Admin note: Category:Pages using infobox Finnish municipality with unknown parameters is now empty. TerraCyprus (talk) 12:26, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * - You were involved in Deletion review/Log/2019 March 22, can you have a look at this one? TerraCyprus (talk) 13:00, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I really can't add anything here. As I mentioned in the DRV, templates are a specialty and I think it's best to let the people who know more about how they are used decide what to do here. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:31, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * you closed some others on this page and are uninvolved in this one. Could one of you close this one too? The keep-vote refers to Category:Pages using infobox Finnish municipality with unknown parameters which is empty now. TerraCyprus (talk) 17:13, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Archive index

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 October 4. (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 15:24, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Archive_index
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Template:Not a reference desk

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 15:28, 30 September 2020 (UTC) Template used on 15 pages that largely duplicates the very first thing on every talk pages it's used on: "This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the ARTICLENAME article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject." --Trialpears (talk) 12:53, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Not a reference desk


 * No real complaints (as the author), though I imagine (thinking back twelve years) that the original impetus was because people were using talk pages as helpdesks despite talkheader's admonitions even back then. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 12:56, 23 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 04:31, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Agree --Tom (LT) (talk) 04:37, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:26, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
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Template:KK Bosna current roster

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 16:31, 4 October 2020 (UTC) The template is unused and there has no updates since April 2019. --DragonFederal (talk) 08:29, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * KK Bosna current roster
 * OK delete the template if you must, or maybe i will update them. Bosna Sarajevo (talk) 15:26, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
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Template:User is blocked

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 October 4. (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 15:26, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
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Template:User talk-page header

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 October 4. Primefac (talk) 16:56, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
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Sydney Ferries templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 15:32, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sydney Ferries color
 * Sydney Ferries lines
 * Sydney Ferries stations
 * Sydney Ferries style
 * Sydney Trains T2 style
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries left/Cockatoo Island
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries right/Cockatoo Island
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries left/Cross Harbour
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries right/Cross Harbour
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries left/Double Bay
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries right/Double Bay
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries left/Manly
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries right/Manly
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries left/Mosman Bay
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries right/Mosman Bay
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries left/Neutral Bay
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries right/Neutral Bay
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries left/Parramatta River
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries right/Parramatta River
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries left/Taronga Zoo
 * S-line/Sydney Ferries right/Taronga Zoo
 * Sydney Ferries succession templates

Deprecated templates replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/Ferries in NSW. Fleet Lists (talk) 02:02, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. BLAIXX 02:09, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
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