Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 April 25



Template:Convert echo

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:04, 3 May 2021 (UTC) Pointless template; if you want to see what the parameters of a template have evaluated to then you can just delete the opening "{{" and click Preview. User:GKFXtalk 22:07, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Convert echo
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Template:Page tabs1

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:04, 3 May 2021 (UTC) Oversized version of Template:Page tabs, was only in use at WikiProject_Marshall_Islands/tabs. Any formatting changes should be made by adding parameters to existing templates not by duplicating them. User:GKFXtalk 20:48, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Page tabs1
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Template:Most populous cities in the People's Republic of China

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Most populous cities in the People's Republic of China. Izno (talk) 01:52, 4 May 2021 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Most populous cities in the People's Republic of China with Template:Largest cities of China.
 * Most populous cities in the People's Republic of China
 * Largest cities of China

Largest cities of China is used only on List of urban areas in China. The internal dimensions are a little different for both templates. However, the data on the templates are nearly identical.Catchpoke (talk) 20:22, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * redirect Template:Largest cities of China to Template:Most populous cities in the People's Republic of China. Frietjes (talk) 13:48, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Gaunt's Ghosts

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:11, 3 May 2021 (UTC) A navbox that doesn't really help with navigation in my opinion, and which is entirely redundant to Template:Warhammer 40,000. Of the 4 links currently in the navbox 2 link to the main article on the book series, and 2 are in the "see also" section for things not directly related to the books. I propose that this navbox should be deleted, it's usage on Gaunt's Ghosts replaced with Template:Warhammer 40,000 which contains many more relevant links and it's transclusion on Dan Abnett removed as every link in it is already in the other navboxes. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:43, 17 April 2021 (UTC) The simple answer is that more reliable link pages are found on Wikipedia. From Burgundian Feudalism (talk) Also, not everything is on the template Warhammer 40,000.
 * Gaunt's Ghosts
 * Redirect to another Nav. Box Although this article may contain less relevant links, it still is reliable. Plus, you said that every link is already in another navbox. Should it have to be Warhammer 40,000 that replaces it?
 * I'm sorry, but I don't understand your comment or proposal. I think you've got some things confused here or have misunderstood my nomination rationale.
 * Why would we redirect this to another nav box and where would you propose to target it? Readers don't search in template space, template redirects only exist to help editors, e.g. linking alternate capitalisations, Linking templates that have changed names, linking policy names to clean up templates etc.
 * What do you mean by "It still is reliable"? navboxes are just collections of pages sorted together into groups that are added to the bottom of articles to help readers navigate through related topics. Outside of a few very specific cases (like what gets included in a pseudoscience navbox) the concept of reliability is meaningless when it comes to navboxes. I also have no idea what you mean when you talk about a "Link page", that isn't a standard name for anything on Wikipedia and this isn't supposed to be a standalone page of links, it's supposed to be added to other articles.
 * We shouldn't have multiple navboxes in articles with substantially overlapping sets of articles - that leads to WP:Template creep, making pages more difficult to navigate, slower to load and unnecessarily larger page sizes.
 * I didn't claim everything was in the Warhammer 40,00 template, I claimed it was redundant to the Warhammer 40,000 navbox and that every link was already in other navboxes on the pages it is used on. It contains three links - Gaunt's Ghosts, Dan Abnett and Imperial Guard (Warhammer 40,000). On the Dan Abnett page it has two valid links - Gaunt's Ghosts and Imperial Guard (Warhammer 40,000), both of which are included in the existing Template:Warhammer 40,000 on the page. On the Gaunt's Ghosts page it has 2 valid links - Dan Abnett and Imperial Guard (Warhammer 40,000), both of which would be included in a combination of a Template:Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning and Template:Warhammer 40,000, which is what I propose substituting instead.
 * The generally accepted standard (search some archived debates) is that a navbox should contain a minimum of 5 links to serve a useful navigational purpose, this currently contains 3, 2 of which are "see also" links for things not directly related to the book series. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 00:00, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Let’s get this over with for now. If it doesn’t meet guidelines, it shouldn’t be created in the first place. I guess that the creator of this template hasn’t been online for while, and this Template needs to gather a larger consensus to be verified. You have proven me wrong. (At least for now *no I’m just joking*)From Burgundian Feudalism (talk)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 15:05, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * delete, currently [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&hidelinks=1&target=Template%3AGaunt's+Ghosts&namespace=0 connects two articles] which isn't enough for a navbox. see also links can accomplish the same thing, and are visible on mobile (navboxes are not). Frietjes (talk) 13:42, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Add colon minutes

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:04, 3 May 2021 (UTC) Unused template. As with many others, its code is a scary bit of wikimarkup that nowadays would be done in Lua with a loop if required. User:GKFXtalk 12:18, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Add colon minutes
 * Add dot minutes
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Template:Ustream user

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:04, 3 May 2021 (UTC) Unused. Gonnym (talk) 11:35, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ustream user
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Template:Ustream

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 16:58, 3 May 2021 (UTC) Has only 3 uses, all of which lead to a 404 page. Gonnym (talk) 11:35, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ustream
 * Delete doesn't need a template for a rare external link. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 12:48, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * delete, standard linking can be used for any working links. Frietjes (talk) 13:44, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
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