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Bosnia and Herzegovina elections

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:45, 18 July 2021 (UTC) Propose substituting the information onto the respective election articles. The only spaces where these are used are on articles of politicians under the electoral record section. These don't serve a purpose where it can be used on election mainspace as the election articles use different tables for the results. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:07, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * 2000 Bosnia and Herzegovina municipal election results: Bužim municipal council
 * 2002 Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina House of Representatives election results: Division One
 * 2004 Bosnia and Herzegovina municipal election results: Mayor of Bužim
 * 2006 Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina House of Representatives election results: Division One
 * 2008 Bosnia and Herzegovina municipal election results: Mayor of Bužim
 * 2010 Bosnia and Herzegovina election results: Assembly of the Una-Sana Canton
 * 2010 Bosnia and Herzegovina State House of Representatives election results: Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Division One
 * 2010 Republika Srpska National Assembly election results: Division One
 * 2014 Bosnia and Herzegovina State House of Representatives election results: Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Division One
 * 2014 Republika Srpska National Assembly election results: Division Two
 * 2018 Bosnia and Herzegovina State House of Representatives election results: Republika Srpska, Division One
 * Oppose deletion. I'd have no problem with adding this information to the respective election articles (as well as being kept on the pages for individual politicians), but I'd prefer to keep the information in template form, mostly for reasons of space. I'm unclear on why exactly the templates are seen as objectionable. CJCurrie (talk) 01:22, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Because there doesn't need to be a template for every little thing. When one format can do, that is having it in table format on the articles instead of on a separate template, it reduces the major issue of template creep. This is why I've been nominating a ton of these election templates. It's to end the redundancy. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:48, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete The vast majority of these are single-use, which makes them not Wiki markup intended for inclusion on multiple pages (quote from the lead of Template namespace), and therefore outside the scope of the template namespace. Even the ones that are used on multiple pages are being used to store information which has no possibility of being changed, making the use of a template pointless. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:34, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Mostly delete; subst and delete some (or more precisely, if a version is already in the election article, delete. If missing from an election article, subst. If not valid for an election article, delete - if no election article wants it, the data should not be used for politician pages). Taking a look at an example such as Template:2010 Bosnia and Herzegovina State House of Representatives election results: Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Division One, I can't find any table that has this data. It either means that the data is missing, not correct or unimportant. Having data like this placed in templates makes it harder to make sure it's valid data as mostly only the person who created it is watching that page. If the data is indeed missing and important, it should be added to the article and then transcluded if needed elsewhere. Taking the above example again, that template is transcluded at Senad Šepić. However, that politician is not even mentioned once at 2010 Bosnian general election, so how is that huge block of tables even relevant? Side note, MOS:DONTHIDE. --Gonnym (talk) 09:15, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete/subst and delete as appropriate. Template space is not a good place to keep results tables as it's prone to vandalism and ultimately simply unnecessary to have the results located somewhere different to the article they're displayed on. Number   5  7  15:56, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
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Georgia Elections

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:06, 18 July 2021 (UTC) All unused and superseded by the tables already used on the articles these templates were created for. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:54, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Georgian legislative election date referendum, 2008
 * Georgian NATO membership referendum, 2008
 * Georgian parliamentary election, 2004
 * Georgian parliamentary election, 2012
 * Georgian parliamentary election, 2016
 * Georgian parliamentary election, 2020
 * Georgian presidential election, 2004
 * Georgian presidential election, 2008
 * Georgian presidential election, 2013
 * Georgian presidential election, 2018
 * Delete Unused/unnecessary. Number   5  7  15:55, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Russian legislative election, 2007

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:30, 18 July 2021 (UTC) 2007 and 2011 are unused and pointless as those article already use a different table. 2004 and 2012 should be substituted per the standard on other Russian presidential election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:23, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Russian legislative election, 2007
 * Russian legislative election, 2011
 * Russian presidential election, 2004
 * Russian presidential election, 2012
 * Delete/subst and delete as appropriate. Number   5  7  15:57, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
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Luxembourg Constituency Elections

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:29, 18 July 2021 (UTC) Propose substituting the templates on the articles for the constituency it's used on as there doesn't exist an election mainspace for them. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:56, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Luxembourg legislative election, 1999 (Centre)
 * Luxembourg legislative election, 2004 (Centre)
 * Luxembourg legislative election, 2009 (Centre)
 * Luxembourg legislative election, 1999 (Est)
 * Luxembourg legislative election, 2004 (Est)
 * Luxembourg legislative election, 2009 (Est)
 * Luxembourg legislative election, 1999 (Nord)
 * Luxembourg legislative election, 2004 (Nord)
 * Luxembourg legislative election, 2009 (Nord)
 * Luxembourg legislative election, 1999 (Sud)
 * Luxembourg legislative election, 2004 (Sud)
 * Luxembourg legislative election, 2009 (Sud)
 * Subst and delete Unnecessary single-use templates. Number   5  7  15:57, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
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Luxembourg EU Elections

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:08, 18 July 2021 (UTC) Unused and the EU election articles already have different tables for the results. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:56, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * European Parliament election, 1979 (Luxembourg)
 * European Parliament election, 1984 (Luxembourg)
 * European Parliament election, 1989 (Luxembourg)
 * European Parliament election, 1994 (Luxembourg)
 * European Parliament election, 1999 (Luxembourg)
 * European Parliament election, 2004 (Luxembourg)
 * European Parliament election, 2009 (Luxembourg)
 * European Parliament election, 2014 (Luxembourg)
 * Delete Unused/unnecessary. Number   5  7  15:54, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Book-Class
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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 14:37, 18 July 2021 (UTC) Book related cleanup, isn't be applicable when books are gone. --Trialpears (talk) 18:27, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Book-Class
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:03, 10 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. Cleanup should make sure the entire row is deleted from the tables, not just the template. Gonnym (talk) 09:37, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Definitely, having done some more checking here I think this will probably be a combination between subst in user (talk): space and getting WP 1.0 bot to remove them from automatic tables by getting rid of categories. Will probably need to be in the holding cell until all books are deleted and the categories can go as well. --Trialpears (talk) 09:51, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep This is premature, just adding the TfD template to the top of the code has borked the layout of the WP 1.0 tables on pretty much every WikiProject Assessment page. The infrastructure needs time to adjust to the change and once that's done, this can be reconsidered. As it was, it wasn't hurting anyone and was transcluded in a bunch of table templates, which are sensitive to presence/absence of inner elements. —  ⚞ ℛogueScholar <span style="background:#000;color:#f93 !important;padding:3px;border-radius:0 9px 9px 0;">🐈 ₨🗩 ⚟  02:32, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I have now noincluded the TfD notice to prevent such problems. While the transclusion count may make it look like it's used in a bunch of templates and for a bunch of Wikiprojects, but in reality almost all transclusions are from newsletters posted on a lot of user pages. It is used in no other templates and only about 15 WikiProjects are impacted. TfD also have solid procedures for dealing with templates that require work before deletion, namely WP:TFDH. --Trialpears (talk) 07:56, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * To be honest, this TfD is technically redundant. Village pump (proposals)/Archive 181 has already gained consensus for dropping support and editing the templates to not support. This the mentioned template. No local consensus here can change that outcome. Gonnym (talk) 08:08, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
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Latvia Elections
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:24, 18 July 2021 (UTC) All unused and the respective articles use different tables. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:48, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * European Parliament election, 2004 (Latvia)
 * European Parliament election, 2009 (Latvia)
 * European Parliament election, 2014 (Latvia)
 * Latvian parliamentary election, 2010
 * Latvian parliamentary election, 2011
 * Latvian parliamentary election, 2014
 * Delete Unused/unnecessary. Number   5  7  15:53, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Danish parliamentary election, 2007
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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 14:25, 18 July 2021 (UTC) All unused as the articles use different tables. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:54, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Danish parliamentary election, 2007
 * Danish parliamentary election, 2011
 * Danish parliamentary election, 2015
 * Danish parliamentary election, 2019
 * Delete Unused/unnecessary. Number   5  7  15:52, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
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Greenland Elections
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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 14:24, 18 July 2021 (UTC) All unused as the articles use different tables for the results and the user who created these templates has been blocked indefinitely since May 2021. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:50, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * European Parliament election, 1984 (Greenland)
 * Greenlandic local elections, 2017
 * Greenlandic local elections, 2021
 * Danish parliamentary election in Greenland, 2015
 * Greenlandic parliamentary election, 2018
 * Danish parliamentary election in Greenland, 2019
 * Danish parliamentary election, 2019 (Greenland)
 * Greenlandic parliamentary election, 2021
 * Delete Unused/unnecessary. Number   5  7  15:51, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
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Bulgarian Elections
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:29, 18 July 2021 (UTC) 2005 should be substituted on the article it's used on per the standard on Bulgarian parliamentary election articles. The rest of which are unused as the election articles use different tables. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:40, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Bulgarian parliamentary election, 2005
 * Bulgarian parliamentary election, 2013
 * Bulgarian presidential election, 2006
 * Bulgarian presidential election, 2011
 * European Parliament election, 2009 (Bulgaria)
 * European Parliament election, 2014 (Bulgaria)
 * European Parliament election, 2019 (Bulgaria)


 * Subst and delete the 2005 one and delete the others. Gonnym (talk) 10:32, 17 July 2021 (UTC)


 * '''Delete/subst and delete as appropriate. Unused or unnecessary single-use templates. Number   5  7  11:37, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Lb
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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 14:23, 18 July 2021 (UTC) The book namespace is being deleted very soon. Looks like minimal transclusions outside doc pages. --Trialpears (talk) 15:24, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Lb
 * Lbt
 * Delete both Will become redundant. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:28, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Wikipedia books on elements
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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 14:15, 18 July 2021 (UTC) Navbox with almost 150 redlinks following book deletion. --Trialpears (talk) 15:08, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia books on elements
 * Delete Nothing but red links. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:28, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Uw-hatespeech
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 July 18. Primefac (talk) 14:11, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Uw-hatespeech
 * Uw-derogatory
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