Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 July 21



Template:I Can See Your Voice (Dutch game show)

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 13:39, 29 July 2021 (UTC) Barely anything to actually warrant a template (literally just article linkage of two numbers). Previously discussed (and subsequent deletion) at Templates for discussion/Log/2020 September 30- was deleted in October 2020 and later recreated by same user of the original (prior to deletion) in April 2021. Magitroopa (talk) 23:33, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I Can See Your Voice (Dutch game show)
 * Delete Too small for navigation. Magitroopa, there is another template like this where it only has two seasons. Will you be nominating that as well? --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:00, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:MCDDI

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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 18:02, 30 July 2021 (UTC) Sea of red links with only 3 blue links. Not something that needs a navigation template. Gonnym (talk) 18:25, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * MCDDI
 * Delete Too many red links. Can't help with navigation. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:50, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Now that the red links have been removed, I change my vote to keep. And if any of the once red-linked articles were to be created, it can be added back if the information for it to be created is provided. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:42, 29 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment I added some names, people who are or were members of the party. I suppose we could delete all the redlinks, leaving just 11 blue linked people. From random searches, it seems that some of the redlinks could also be turned into articles. Aymatth2 (talk) 17:59, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but I don't see why there should be a template with members of a political party for any nation. Don't see the navigational purpose. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:29, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It is common enough to have templates for political parties like Bloc Québécois, Liberal Democrats (UK) or Communist Party of Great Britain. They let readers browse among the members. This one would be more useful if the hopeless redlinks were purged, it was structured into groups like leaders, cabinet members, elections etc. and it was a bit more complete. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:48, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * My original nomination was based on the non-links the template had. Now that it had, my original nomination is moot. I have no personal opinion at the moment on if political parties should or shouldn't have navigation templates. So for closing admin, -1 my deletion vote. I will remove the non-links from the template to make it cleaner. Gonnym (talk) 23:35, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * For the record, Bernard Combo-Matsiona, Paulin Makaya and Jean-Pierre Makouta-Mboukou have articles in the French Wikipedia that could be have been translated and added to this template. I think the general rule is that ill links to these articles are o.k. if there is some reasonable expectation that English-language versions will be created. Given the atrocious coverage of the Republic of the Congo, that may be unrealistic. Aymatth2 (talk) 02:21, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Keep Productive template, and we should never be afraid of a few red links. But only red links entries which can be started with sources.† Encyclopædius  19:32, 17 July 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Frietjes (talk) 13:35, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Useful to readers browsing the politicians associated with this party. This is a very different template from the sea-of-redlinks version that was nominated and that voted to delete. Aymatth2 (talk) 17:29, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Comments: Thanks for the cleanup because a "Sea of red links" are a concern when they are career non-links that may never be converted (and possibly can never be) to articles. There have been many such "non-links" added just because they are of interest to one editor and sometimes maintenance is required. -- Otr500 (talk) 07:40, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:UserTalkArchiveBox

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 July 30. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 18:02, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * UserTalkArchiveBox
 * Archives
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Template:Unofficial Sonic media

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 11:15, 28 July 2021 (UTC) Appears to be a copy of Template:Unofficial Mario media, perhaps as a test page? The only unique link on it is to Sonic Painful World Spikes Kaizo, currently at AFD. The rest of the links are relevant to Mario, not Sonic, including the top link which actually leads to List of unofficial Mario media. Not sure if this qualifies as speedy G2 or G11 since the main purpose is to advertise the aforementioned AFD'd page, also created by the same user. Axem Titanium (talk) 02:10, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Unofficial Sonic media
 * Delete. Not enough (or connection between) entries in List of unofficial Sonic media to warrant a need to navigate between them. czar  02:42, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Most links are generic, unrelated, or about to be deleted at AFD. Sergecross73   msg me  11:44, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete No purpose. Not sure why it was made TarkusAB talk / contrib 14:08, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.  The Living love   talk 14:28, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Seems more like a private hobby than a serious template. Unsolvable (unlinked) links to disambiguation pages were restored by the OP. The Banner  talk 19:42, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Unnecessary template. शिव साहिल/Shiv Sahil (talk) 04:31, 23 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete - Unrelated links, plus there's only three articles about unofficial Sonic media (Sonic: After the Sequel, Sonic Dreams Collection and Sonic P-06). Shadowboxer2005 (talk) 10:34, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Requests for comment/User conduct/Assistance/Archive navbox

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:08, 21 July 2021 (UTC) This is an archive template for WP:RFC/U/A which is inactive, only transcluded here. There are no archives currently and with RFC/U/A being inactive I don't see any archives being made. So it should be deleted as it serves no purpose and is not needed for any historial reference of the page. Terasail [✉️] 01:29, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:EP09Results

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The result of the discussion was delete. czar 06:24, 28 July 2021 (UTC) A template that is used on the wrong mainspace and redundant as there already exists a template with the same design on the 2009 EU election article. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:36, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * EP09Results
 * Delete Unused and unnecessary. Number   5  7  20:22, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:EP04Results

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The result of the discussion was substitute and delete. czar 06:23, 28 July 2021 (UTC) The top template, EP04, is single-use and should be substituted where used. The next three are navboxes with no navigational purpose as it contains information that should be substituted onto the 2004 EU article under the statistics section. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:36, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * EP04Results
 * European Parliament election, 2004 - Delegation at 20 July 2004
 * European Parliament election, 2004 - Statistics
 * European Parliament election, 2004 - Timeline


 * Subst and delete. Subst all to 2004 European Parliament election, remove from Elections to the European Parliament and convert the inappropriate use of navboxes into standard tables. These aren't navboxes but data tables that hold important article content which can't be viewed by a large portion of our readers. Gonnym (talk) 09:55, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Substitute and delete. I agree with Gonnym's proposal. However, although the templates being placed at the bottom of the page in Elections to the European Parliament, like a navbox would be, is wrong, the templates themselves are not navboxes; they are collapsed tables, which itself contravenes WP:COLLAPSE, so that will need to be corrected. --Bsherr (talk) 22:59, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:European Parliament election, 2004 (Czech Republic)

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The result of the discussion was substitute and delete. czar 06:23, 28 July 2021 (UTC) Both single-use and should be substituted onto the respective Czech EU election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:36, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * European Parliament election, 2004 (Czech Republic)
 * European Parliament election, 2009 (Czech Republic)


 * Subst and delete to election articles. Gonnym (talk) 16:17, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Substitute and delete. I concur. --Bsherr (talk) 23:00, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:European Parliament election, 2004 (Malta)
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The result of the discussion was delete. czar 06:22, 28 July 2021 (UTC) All unused and pointless as the respective EU Malta election article use different tables for the results. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:25, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * European Parliament election, 2004 (Malta)
 * European Parliament election, 2009 (Malta)
 * European Parliament election, 2014 (Malta)
 * Delete Unused/unnecessary. Number   5  7  20:23, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. I concur they are unused. --Bsherr (talk) 23:11, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:European Parliament election, 2004 (Hungary)
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The result of the discussion was substitute and delete. czar 06:21, 28 July 2021 (UTC) All single-use that should be substituted onto the respective Hungarian EU election articles it was created for and anywhere else used. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:20, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * European Parliament election, 2004 (Hungary)
 * European Parliament election, 2009 (Hungary)
 * European Parliament election, 2014 (Hungary)
 * European Parliament election, 2019 (Hungary)


 * Subst and delete to election articles. Gonnym (talk) 16:17, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Substitute and delete. I concur. --Bsherr (talk) 23:01, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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