Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 November 20



Template:WarnerMedia Studios & Networks

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 28. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 15:00, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
 * WarnerMedia_Studios_&_Networks
 * WarnerMedia_News_&_Sports
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Template:VH1 artist

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:52, 28 November 2021 (UTC) Unused in mainspace (1 sandbox usage). I'm not even sure if it would even still work as the example used in the /doc leads to a 404 error. Gonnym (talk) 21:21, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * VH1 artist
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:45, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:MED

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 28. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:56, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Localities in Norberg Municipality

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:56, 28 November 2021 (UTC) Only 1 link, superfluous: both the municipality and town refer to each other already.  P 1 9 9  ✉ 17:43, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Localities in Norberg Municipality
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:48, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Localities in Fagersta Municipality

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:57, 28 November 2021 (UTC) Only 1 link, superfluous: both the municipality and town refer to each other already.  P 1 9 9  ✉ 17:41, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Localities in Fagersta Municipality
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Localities in Sundbyberg Municipality
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:57, 28 November 2021 (UTC) Only 1 link, which is already in the intro paragraph of the article. Not needed.  P 1 9 9  ✉ 17:26, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Localities in Sundbyberg Municipality
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Angela White
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:45, 27 November 2021 (UTC) Only used on the mainspace with all the articles linked having little relevance to the mainspace. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:57, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Angela White
 * Delete. A performer-by-appearance navigational template with no real navigation. The template gives undue weight to the performer in any article other than Angela White. Even there, a see also section with a few entries would be more appropriate. • Gene93k (talk) 22:42, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Additional: The only point of this template was to connect "List of awards and nominations received by Angela White," which was deleted at AfD. With only the eponymous article left using it, this navbox serves no purpose. • Gene93k (talk) 01:10, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox dance festival
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:46, 27 November 2021 (UTC) Unused and seems to have been created by mistake instead of using Template:Infobox recurring event at Kolkata International Dance Festival, which the creator later used. Gonnym (talk) 15:44, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Infobox dance festival
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:53, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Info/Cientista
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G2 by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:11, 20 November 2021 (UTC) Seems to have been created by mistake instead of using Infobox person. Gonnym (talk) 15:40, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Info/Cientista
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:53, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Current Turkish streaming series
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:57, 28 November 2021 (UTC) Unused, outdated as only two shows on this template are currently airing, and the rest are red links with articles only existing on the Turkish Wikipedia. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:35, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Current Turkish streaming series
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Template:Alpbaşıs of the Kayı tribe (Diriliş: Ertuğrul and Kuruluş: Osman)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 28. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:59, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Alpbaşıs_of_the_Kayı_tribe_(Diriliş:_Ertuğrul_and_Kuruluş:_Osman)
 * Beys_of_the_Çavdar_tribe_(Diriliş:_Ertuğrul)
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Template:Netball invite
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The result of the discussion was delete. Moved to WikiProject Netball/invite Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:49, 27 November 2021 (UTC) No longer used by the project and instead use the subst format when inviting users to the project. But the project hasn't been active since 2019. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:46, 12 November 2021 (UTC) <p class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 15:21, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Netball invite
 * Keep' RENAME to WP:WikiProject Netball/Template:Invite -- it doesn't need to reside in templatespace, it can be substed out of WP space instead, and if someone wants to revive the wikiproject, they should have their templates available. Just update the instructions to reflect the new location, at all the places instructions exist. -- 65.92.246.43 (talk) 01:47, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:New Zealand welcome
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 28. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 15:07, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
 * New_Zealand_welcome
 * New_Zealand_welcome2
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Template:Mayors of Johannesburg
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The result of the discussion was keep. The template has been substantially trimmed. Feel free to renominate it if you would still would like to see it deleted. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:52, 27 November 2021 (UTC) Unused. Extremely unwieldy with an extremely long list; very few bluelinks Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:24, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Mayors of Johannesburg
 * Delete Hard to navigate with and too few links. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:34, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Strip to those people with articles -- 65.92.246.43 (talk) 04:28, 21 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep but remove the absurd amount of non links. I've cleaned the template and placed it into the articles. Gonnym (talk) 11:54, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Mathematics education
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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:37, 27 November 2021 (UTC) Unused Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:24, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Mathematics education
 * Keep I'm leaning keep as this template in my view can help with navigation. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:03, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. 14 transclusions as of this time stamp. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:13, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
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E-League Rosters
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:49, 27 November 2021 (UTC) A vast majority of these templates are used on one page or two. With one or two being unused. Discovering this from the November 10 discussion. One of the editors pointed out that none of these actually follow any of the guidelines for templates and given the low usage these should be substituted on the articles. In my view, since ESports teams templates don't have a lot of links to the players on the roster, navigation isn't gained by having these on a separate template space and should be class wikitables on the articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:48, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * PSG.LGD roster
 * Cloud9 League of Legends roster
 * PSG Talon roster
 * T1 Overwatch roster
 * Atlanta FaZe roster
 * Florida Mutineers roster
 * London Royal Ravens roster
 * Los Angeles Guerrillas roster
 * Los Angeles Thieves roster
 * Minnesota ROKKR roster
 * New York Subliners roster
 * OpTic Texas roster
 * Paris Legion roster
 * Seattle Surge roster
 * Toronto Ultra roster
 * Atlanta Reign roster
 * Boston Uprising roster
 * Chengdu Hunters roster
 * Dallas Fuel roster
 * Florida Mayhem roster
 * Guangzhou Charge roster
 * Hangzhou Spark roster
 * Houston Outlaws roster
 * London Spitfire roster
 * Los Angeles Gladiators roster
 * Los Angeles Valiant roster
 * New York Excelsior roster
 * Paris Eternal roster
 * Philadelphia Fusion roster
 * San Francisco Shock roster
 * Seoul Dynasty roster
 * Shanghai Dragons roster
 * Toronto Defiant roster
 * Vancouver Titans roster
 * Washington Justice roster


 * Subst and delete. I haven't checked them all, so apologies if there are outliers here. These are not navigation templates but roster tables inside of a template. The locations these are placed are also in the middle of an article (as it should be) and not at the bottom as navboxes are usually placed. The templates should be subst into the team article and placed in a section such as PSG.LGD. The table should be removed from any other article. If the team is defunct or the roster has changed, then this can be handled as any other edit and removed or modified. Gonnym (talk) 11:48, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Prothom Alo - This debt of yours will not be repaid
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 28. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 15:01, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Prothom_Alo_-_This_debt_of_yours_will_not_be_repaid
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Template:Tfd top
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The result of the discussion was Speedy keep per WP:SK. Please actually read the documentation, which clearly explains how this is used, instead of blindly nominating unused templates for deletion without understanding them. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:08, 20 November 2021 (UTC) It doesn't seem to be used. Why is that? Did Q28 make a mess today? 01:47, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Tfd top
 * , it's a subst-only template. Such templates should have always substitute added to their documentation to prevent them from appearing in the unused template reports. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:26, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:TƒL colours
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:36, 27 November 2021 (UTC) Well, since it's not used, we should delete it. Did Q28 make a mess today? 01:46, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * TƒL colours
 * Delete Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:14, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:15, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Userbox test
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G2 by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:29, 20 November 2021 (UTC) Not used, so it should need to be removed. Did Q28 make a mess today? 01:46, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Userbox test
 * Speedy delete as a test page. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:15, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Userboxthisuserlovesdeadkennedys
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The result of the discussion was Wrong venue Moved to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:Userboxthisuserlovesdeadkennedys (non-admin closure) * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:15, 20 November 2021 (UTC) Not used, the creator is a novice. Did Q28 make a mess today? 01:45, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Userboxthisuserlovesdeadkennedys
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Template:Tmbox/styles.css
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:34, 27 November 2021 (UTC) Not used, so Did Q28 make a mess today? 01:43, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Tmbox/styles.css
 * See also Templates for discussion/Log/2021 November 19. --Izno (talk) 18:50, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Pyongyang Metro logo
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:35, 27 November 2021 (UTC) Not used and should be deleted. -- Did Q28 make a mess today? 01:40, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Pyongyang Metro logo
 * Delete Not really a template. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:14, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:15, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete pointless. Just directly use image-wiki-box coding -- 65.92.246.43 (talk) 04:26, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete nonsensical junk template. Dronebogus (talk) 12:14, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:RNZAF
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The result of the discussion was delete. Note, the navbox is Template:Royal New Zealand Air Force Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 15:05, 28 November 2021 (UTC) Navigation is not used and appears to have failed. Did Q28 make a mess today? 01:39, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * RNZAF
 * Delete There's already a navbox for this. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:12, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:15, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't see the repalcement navbox? RNZAF Base Ohakea does not have such a box. It should be transcluding this if we were to use it. -- 65.92.246.43 (talk) 17:24, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:QMJHL trophies
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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:QMJHL. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 15:06, 28 November 2021 (UTC) Not used and seems to have gone most of the way. Did Q28 make a mess today? 01:38, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * QMJHL trophies


 * Keep, still used. TheGreenGiant23 (talk) 01:47, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Such template exist for other leagues too. Exemple: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:OHL_trophies. Both merge and delete users are notorious "I want to delete for deleting, merge for merging, i dont mind". TheGreenGiant23 (talk) 04:56, 20 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge This is really too much for one navbox. Merge with Template:QMJHL. A section for the trophies should be created. We have two templates when one can reduce the redundancy. TheGreenGiant23, on two Tfd's for this day you have said the templates are used. Please check the transclusion tool above or the "What links here" from the main template page to see if the templates are used on any articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:10, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete looks unused to me. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:15, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge into Template:QMJHL with a trophy section. Flibirigit (talk) 02:39, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Prothom Alo - This debt of yours will not be repaid/style.css
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:34, 27 November 2021 (UTC) In my opinion, this CSS is no longer in use. Did Q28 make a mess today? 01:37, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Prothom Alo - This debt of yours will not be repaid/style.css
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:15, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete it isn't even in the correct content module, template styles should be in SCSS, not CSS. — xaosflux  Talk 20:53, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Protected sister project logo
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The result of the discussion was delete. It appears this template would be used when protecting a logo image which is used on the main page, and not "used on the main page". Feel free to restore it when (or if) it is needed. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 15:09, 28 November 2021 (UTC) No longer used on the main page. Did Q28 make a mess today? 01:36, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Protected sister project logo
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:09, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:MetroLyrics song
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:28, 27 November 2021 (UTC) This website appears to have been done since June, according to Wayback Machine.
 * MetroLyrics song

While it has been suggested on the template's talk page to convert the links to Wayback links, the response noted that WikiProject Albums/Sources includes this website for unreliable songwriting credits. The same proposal was made on Village pump (technical)/Archive 191, and users there made similar points. This discussion, however, noted that removal made mean that we're left with empty sections.

The Albums listing includes six discussions of reliability of the content back to 2016. The first discussion includes comment from a user preparing articles for GAN, (, who said "I stopped counting [songwriter errors] after finding the wrong songwriters credited with about 20 of his songs (identified with the LyricFind logo, which is supposed to indicate proper licensing)."

Note that two other templates related to the site exist, MetroLyrics artist and MetroLyrics album. -- Zanimum (talk) 00:46, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:15, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete The website no longer functions as once before. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:16, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete i agree WikiCleanerMan --Nahir500 (im not signed up) 09:55, 202 November 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.228.198.209 (talk)
 * Delete Numerous problems with the site have been identified over the years and currently it serves no useful function. The two identified related templates should be deleted as well. I don't known if this is helpful, but a bot was used to remove similarly placed succession boxes from song articles. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:58, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete all three but how does one add the other two to an in-progress TFD? jnestorius(talk) 17:59, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Question: If deleted (which seems it is), what will be done with these links? Some are links in the EL sections like in Yes (Coldplay song), others are used as reference. If the community has decided not to use archived versions to save the EL entries because the site is not a RS, then the same usage as manual or references should probably be removed. Gonnym (talk) 21:11, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete But we need a replacement resource for lyrics. Nothing I have yet found has been good enough. - JGabbard (talk) 21:28, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Kill it with fire before it breeds (delete all): I just checked the use on "The Partisan" and found via the Wayback Machine that they'd (arguably) incorrectly credited Anna Marly along with Hy Zaret as the writers, when it really should've been Emmanuel d'Astier and Zaret getting the credit for the lyrics. I didn't notice that error when I first added it, since the lyrics were "locked" and theoretically "official", feel very bad about it now and have removed the template from the ELs.  00:01, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Not helpful to be directed to a defunct site. And of no use if its errors will never be corrected.Allreet (talk)
 * Delete, because what is the point of using a now-defunct lyrics site for someone to find the lyrics to their favorite songs they read about on Wikipedia when they can find similar sites like Genius and AZLyrics nowadays? Plus, the owners of the MetroLyrics domain has barely maintained or refurbished the website enough over the years in a way that it still can be somewhat useful. mediafanatic17   talk  02:49, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete – site is now defunct – zmbro (talk) 17:16, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: One less Wikiproblem to worry about. ResPM  (T&#x1F508; &#x1F3B5;C) 00:33, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: If the website’s dead, then this template is dead. 👨🏻‍💻 Rng0286 (☎️ talk) ✍️ conts ;) Grand sale, grand sale, grand sale! (☑️ rights) D'oh! 09:04, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete dead link template to a dead, old, bad site. Dronebogus (talk) 12:06, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete this thing, it has got to go, the website doesn't exist anymore, just get it out of here. 2600:6C52:6C7F:F549:CE3:4069:233B:CE5D (talk) 06:50, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Manitoba Interlake
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 28. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 15:10, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Urban agglomerations in India
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 19:37, 29 November 2021 (UTC) duplicates the table in the main article and not used outside of the main article. Frietjes (talk) 18:59, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Urban agglomerations in India


 * Delete. These tables with article content hiding in navboxes are a widespread problem which should be a high priority for us to track them and remove them. Half of our readers don't even know this exists. Since this article already has the table, nothing more is needed. Gonnym (talk) 20:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose:, Have added this Template is no more being used by only one page. -Vijethnbharadwaj (talk) 12:29, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

<p class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  00:11, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Aside from now being used. This is not a template you can easily navigate with. The urban agglomarations article should have this template substituted on there. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:07, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete or rewrite This is not a proper template. It is a list article masquerading as a template and being used as a navbox, which is all wrong -- 65.92.246.43 (talk) 04:22, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, this has way too much non-navigational content for a navbox. Better to link to List of urban agglomerations in India for all this detailed information. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)  14:18, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
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