Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 November 7



Template:NBL SEMP

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:01, 15 November 2021 (UTC) Unused and just a link to the teams in the Australian National Basketball League. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:53, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * NBL SEMP
 * NBL TJ
 * NBL MU
 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:NBL Philippines roster header

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:01, 15 November 2021 (UTC) Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:53, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * NBL Philippines roster header


 * Delete as unused. Gonnym (talk) 09:58, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:NBL Canada labeled map

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:00, 15 November 2021 (UTC) Unused and outdated as most of the teams on this map no longer exist. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:47, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * NBL Canada labeled map


 * Delete as unused. Gonnym (talk) 09:57, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:NBL Canada color

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:00, 15 November 2021 (UTC) Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:47, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * NBL Canada color


 * Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 09:56, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:NBLMatchSummaryLine

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:00, 15 November 2021 (UTC) All unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:44, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * NBLMatchSummaryLine
 * NBLMatchSummaryLine3
 * NBLMatchSummaryLine4


 * Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 09:55, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:NBL Coaches 1980
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:48, 14 November 2021 (UTC) All unused and contain no useful information. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:37, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * NBL Coaches 1980
 * NBL Coaches 1981
 * NBL Coaches 1982
 * NBL Coaches 1983
 * NBL Coaches 1984
 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:POV check
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The result of the discussion was merge. Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:00, 10 November 2021 (UTC) Propose merging Template:POV check with Template:POV.
 * POV check
 * POV

We don't conventionally segregate maintenance into "this is a known or likely problem" and "we think there may be a problem, but we're not sure" because we cannot trust other Wikipedians to check the article for claimed issues. I discussed this in 2019 at Template_talk:POV_check/Archive_1, and what little discussion it achieved indicated that people consider this category to be redundant. Here's an updated graph of the number of articles in the respective maintenance categories, Category:Articles needing POV-check and Category:NPOV disputes, broken down by month.

Despite being populated by other templates, it is clear that these two templates are used in essentially the same manner, and the backlog for Template:POV check is more poorly maintained, perhaps due to its relative obscurity. As per, "The tide has shifted [since the previous merge proposal in 2005], and [Template:POV check] no longer seems to serve a distinct purpose." –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 22:55, 7 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:50, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge. I'm even more for merging this now than I was then.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  03:22, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge. Agree with the nomination. - Jazzy Prinker (talk) 03:29, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 05:04, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge – yes, agreed. Mathglot (talk) 05:15, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge. What (if anything at this early stage) is proposed for the POV template, so that it is still possible to distinguish between major and subtle POV issues? Mako001 (talk) 14:13, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per nominator --Vacant0 (talk) 14:23, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge POV should be enough. MarioGom (talk) 16:54, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge - They're both essentially the same thing. — curious  Golden  call me maybe? 22:33, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge and Snow Close. These templates do the same thing, though the POV-check template seems to be more passive-aggressive about it. No reason for there to be two of them. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 03:19, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge I don't really see any reason to have two templates that serve the same purpose, so merging them would be a good idea. Jurta (talk) 13:10, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Ray of Light tracks
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:59, 14 November 2021 (UTC) All single-use and should be substituted in the infobox on each of the song's articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:06, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Ray of Light tracks
 * American Life tracks
 * Music (Madonna album) tracks
 * Delete all per my reasoning at Templates for discussion/Log/2021 November 7. An album track listing template is not required if there is already a navbox on the page that does the same job, and all the articles for the bluelinked songs in each of the above templates already include the Madonna songs navbox, so these templates are redundant. Richard3120 (talk) 12:52, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete all Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Beaufort scale small
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:27, 14 November 2021 (UTC) This should be substituted on the five articles it is used on or be outright removed. As the five articles on weather events either contain some or no information the level of the storm based on the scale and should be updated as such. But a scale like this as a separate template isn't warranted. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC) <p class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:37, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Beaufort scale small
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:FC Sputnik Rechitsa squad
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:06, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Redundant squad template: football club is disbanded. BlameRuiner (talk) 08:25, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * FC Sputnik Rechitsa squad
 * Delete Club folded. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:12, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 20:21, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 20:22, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Talkvandal
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 18:16, 21 November 2021 (UTC) A VIP submission template that almost no one uses. Did Q28 make a mess today? 03:18, 31 October 2021 (UTC) <p class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 04:45, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Talkvandal
 * Keep. For the background of this template, see Wikipedia talk:Administrator intervention against vandalism/Archive 12. It seems that instructions directing users to this template have been removed from Administrator intervention against vandalism/Header have been removed at some point, which is why it is rarely used. Is there an alternative method for users to report a blocked user who is still abusing their talk page? If anyone still uses it, then it should be kept, as it's not doing any harm otherwise. NB the reason it appears on unused template reports is because it is designed to be deleted from WP:AIV, which is not archived, and therefore the report is not an indication that it is completely unused. — Voice of Clam 07:58, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep There is a historical record for this aside from being unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:57, 7 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Conditional delete: It still hasn't been restored to the header template which means it isn't linked from anywhere. For me, these kind of things are indications of templates unwanted by the community. If the template isn't restored 'til this TfD is closed, then I'm in favor of deletion. Gonnym (talk) 10:01, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Per Gonnym. We don't need to keep more random unused stuff "just because". Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I can see no evidence that this template or the instructions ever made it out of the trial phase in April/May 2009. Delete accordingly. --Izno (talk) 22:40, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Wikispace
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:05, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Wikispace no longer exists, so there is no longer a use for this template Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:52, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikispace
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:17, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete This was in January 2019. Usually this would have happened sooner. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 00:40, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Unsorted
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:05, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:47, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Unsorted
 * Delete per nom. It's kind of interesting that we deleted order, another unused template saying basically the same thing, only a few weeks ago. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:UKBRQDRIVE
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:04, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused. parent task force has been dead for ages Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:45, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * UKBRQDRIVE
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Turkish Tenses and Moods
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:04, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused, all redlinks anyway Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:44, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Turkish Tenses and Moods
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Turkish grammar
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:04, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused. Mostly redlinks, and the few bluelinks are not exclusive to Turkish grammar Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:44, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Turkish grammar
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:The Science Museum, London
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:04, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused, usage unclear Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:43, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The Science Museum, London
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Template:Theodosian dynasty
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:04, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused, WP:NENAN anyway Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:42, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Theodosian dynasty
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:The flight of a spacecraft
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:04, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:42, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The flight of a spacecraft
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:The Fall timeline
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:03, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused single-use chronicle template. There are better ways to do this now (and the band's had so many members that it's unwieldy either way) Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:41, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The Fall timeline
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Template:Tcunits
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:03, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:41, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Tcunits
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Template:Take On
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:03, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused and redundant to Bohemia Interactive Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:40, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Take On
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Süpplingenburg dynasty
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:03, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused and WP:NENAN anyway Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:38, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Süpplingenburg dynasty
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Template:Swatting
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:03, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Three links. two are red, one points to an unrelated topic. Even if every link were blue, this would be WP:NENAN Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:37, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Swatting
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Template:Spanish manga publisher
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:03, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:31, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Spanish manga publisher
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Spacecraft missing information
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:02, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused and overly specific fork of Missing information Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:30, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Spacecraft missing information
 * Delete as unused. This isn't a fork of Missing information, as it is intended to apply to images not articles, but regardless I need not analyze further. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Sotho
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:02, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:29, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Sotho
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Template:SlasherFranchises
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:02, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused and badly formatted Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:28, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * SlasherFranchises
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 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Shining fictional chronology
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:02, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:27, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Shining fictional chronology
 * Delete per nom. Even the creator knew that their work was useless ... * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Ranked Choice Voting in the United States
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:02, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused, entirely redlinks Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:24, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Ranked Choice Voting in the United States
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Template:Program details
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:02, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused, usage unclear Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:23, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Program details
 * Delete per nom. This seems to be some sort of failed test version of course details * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Pittsburgh etymology
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:01, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused hard-coded reference template. Just use the links themselves as part of a cite web. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:20, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Pittsburgh etymology
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Template:MonitoringUser
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  01:06, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused, unclear use. Too temporal to use anyway Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:05, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * MonitoringUser
 * Delete Not used. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:53, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Interstate 5 in California
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:04, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused, not how exit lists should be formatted anyway Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:58, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Interstate 5 in California


 * Delete not compliant with MOS:RJL. --Rschen7754 05:22, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as unused and as unlikely to be used because of MOS:RJL.  Imzadi 1979  →   06:04, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Heatter-Quigley
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:05, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused. TV series are not normally templated by creator in this fashion. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:55, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Heatter-Quigley
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 * Comment: May be redundant to . A navbox is not always needed if a category will suffice. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:09, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Hard Candy (Madonna album) tracks
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:05, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:51, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Hard Candy (Madonna album) tracks
 * Delete Track list is already on the article. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:54, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: Redundant. The first blue link is a redirect, so there are only four song articles here, and all of them have the Madonna songs navbox in them. Template:Infobox song states, "An album track listing may be added to infobox song as long as the following criteria are met: 1) the article does not have a navbox in which the song appears; and 2) a majority of the album's songs are linked to WP articles." This template fails both criteria: the four songs are already linked via the navbox at the bottom of their respective pages, and in the track listing of the parent album article, so it's not needed anywhere. I don't expect the article creator to contest this TfD: I know he has had a difficult year in real life and is currently on a Wikibreak, but I greatly respect his past work on Wikipedia and this template was created in good faith... I'm sure he will understand the reasoning here if he sees it. Richard3120 (talk) 01:27, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Guy's Grocery Games
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  01:07, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Guy's Grocery Games
 * Guy's Grocery Games/begin

Unused templates specific to one TV show. Wider-ranging templates already exist. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:46, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Good source
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  01:08, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:45, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Good source
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Template:Ghana football squad start
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  01:08, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:44, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Ghana football squad start
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Template:Gender classes in English
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  01:08, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused, seems to be single-use anyway. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:41, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Gender classes in English
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Template:For glossary
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 14. ✗ plicit  12:12, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * For_glossary
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Template:Fictional subject
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:03, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused, unlikely to be used. If made-up content exists here, that's what hoax is for. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:39, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Fictional subject
 * I had created this for Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive979 because at least one article about something fictional was moved to draft space by an admin. I think all pages from those users were deleted so I guess this isn't needed anymore. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 16:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Fix Needed
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:02, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused. Seems like an unclear and overly specific problem anyway, for which better templates are suited. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:38, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Fix Needed
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Template:Fermentation
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:02, 14 November 2021 (UTC) Unused sidebar with a lot of garbage in it Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:36, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Fermentation
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 * Delete Unfinished, overly broad sidebar. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 00:38, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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