Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 October 13



Template:Artsakh FC sections

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:03, 21 October 2021 (UTC) Unused and only two links. Not enough for a sidebar template. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:45, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Artsakh FC sections
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Abdul aziz molla

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The result of the discussion was delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the template's undeletion. ✗ plicit  11:03, 21 October 2021 (UTC) Unused and not a template. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:23, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Abdul aziz molla
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Abkhazia national football team results

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:39, 22 October 2021 (UTC) Unused as no articles exist for it to be used on. The mainspace article for the national football team already has a game log for results since 2012. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:21, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Abkhazia national football team results
 * Hi, you don't have to delete it now. I will get this all sorted out today, just give me a day and if this issue isn't fix you can delete this template. Mwiqdoh (talk) 15:29, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a holding place, plus you are going to be creating two articles. Not enough for a sidebar template. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:54, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, Ok then you can delete it and I'll create it again when I finish the articles. It's not about the number of articles, all of the national team results use this for easy navigation. Thanks Mwiqdoh (talk) 17:34, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I created both articles so this template is being used now. Thank you :) Mwiqdoh (talk) 04:26, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete still unused. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi sir, I created one of the articles (Abkhazia national football team results (2020–present)) and I am currently creating the other one so this template is used now. Thanks, Mwiqdoh (talk) 01:13, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I created both articles now so this template is in use. Thanks. Mwiqdoh (talk) 04:26, 17 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete as below the general "5 article" threshold. WP:NENAN. --Izno (talk) 14:38, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * delete, see also links work well in this case. Frietjes (talk) 16:16, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:A-Class article

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:14, 21 October 2021 (UTC) Not used. Articles are not assessed by a letter format. Seems like a fork of Good article. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:18, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * A-Class article
 * Keep for now: A-class is a now mostly unused rating system (supposed to be between GA and FA I think). However, I think A-class as a whole would need to be fully phased out before we can really talk about potentially deleting this template. It would be inappropriate to jump to step 2 before we started step 1. Curbon7 (talk) 01:00, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Curbon7, you say it should be phased out. But it's not used anywhere. Are you referring to A-Class criteria and what is supposed to be its potential usage from this? --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:23, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * , Yes it is for A-class criteria. As far as I'm aware, this is a topicon like how FA and GA have topicons in the top-right (for example on Niels Bohr). However, as you can see from the category (Category:A-Class articles), A-class is almost never used anymore outside of the scope of WP:WikiProject Military History. However, as articles (such as Napoleon and James Cannan) are listed as A-class, this template should technically be placed on those articles. Hence the tentative keep for now. Curbon7 (talk) 01:39, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The page has been around since 2008. Why hasn't this idea taken off or stayed in essentially what looks like a proposal after a decade? Majority of empty cats kept for tracking purposes. But the template was created in March of this year. Which kind of adds more confusion. Maybe you can explain this. But I think it's best to bring in members of the Military history project and have them give their take on this since it's mostly used on their related articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:47, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete—while A-class exists, no articles actually label A-class like we do FA or GA articles. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs  talk 16:21, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per David Fuchs. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Azerbaijani clubs in European football

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:04, 21 October 2021 (UTC) Unused. Linked to only two articles. The rest are redirect. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:10, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Azerbaijani clubs in European football
 * Armenian clubs in European football

Added the Armenian template which is similar to the Azer template. This one is unused, but mainly contains redirects. No navigational benefit is presented. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:50, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 18:03, 15 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 18:06, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. 01:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Arab tribes in Qatar (closely linked)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:05, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Arab tribes in Qatar (closely linked)

Another template fork of Template:Arab tribes in Qatar created by the same user whose previous template was deleted back on August 7. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:31, 13 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Creator is apparently a new user. Have you tried talking to them, about what they're trying to achieve? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:29, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Andy, I haven't. But the user has been notified of this Tfd if that counts for something. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:45, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as unused. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:ARGint

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 October 21. ✗ plicit  11:11, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ARGint
 * ARGtop
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Template:26 Baku Commissars

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:05, 21 October 2021 (UTC) Subject doesn't warrant a navbox as the mainspace already lists all 26 individuals. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:04, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * 26 Baku Commissars
 * An actually valid rationale would be that this navbox is unused. Delete accordingly. --Izno (talk) 19:30, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as unused. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Women in Red Women Writers header
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:05, 21 October 2021 (UTC) Not used by the Women in Red project or anywhere else for that matter. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:00, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Women in Red Women Writers header
 * As far as I am concerned, this can be deleted.--Ipigott (talk) 19:52, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as unused. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Expand with relevant sources
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:10, 21 October 2021 (UTC) This template only has five transclusions, and it seems redundant to many other 'needs more sources' templates. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 18:41, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Expand with relevant sources
 * Delete Redundant and feels like a fork of other templates. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:57, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * This template is probably redundant, since it's already possible to include links in the missing information template. Jarble (talk) 19:00, 13 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Every single use either doesn't pass a parameter at all or passes a basic google search as a parameter, making this redundant to expand section. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, replace with expand section per Pppery. --Izno (talk) 18:47, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Sambo
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The result of the discussion was keep. Normally I might relist, but it's not appropriate to take nominations started by socks as serious efforts to improve Wikipedia. Izno (talk) 18:42, 20 October 2021 (UTC) Per WP:REDNOT, Red links may be used in navboxes which also contain links to existing articles, but they cannot be excessive. Of the five blue links (out of 24), only three actually transclude it. And one of them is the daddy article, World Sambo Championships. One of the blue links is a redirect being discussed at. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 17:49, 13 October 2021 (UTC) WP:STRIKESOCK. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:58, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Sambo
 * Delete No navigational benefit is presented. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:56, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Connects 5 Sambo related articles & shows articles that should be created. Could be cleaned up, but should be kept. Deancarmeli (talk) 11:36, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Shades of brown
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 October 20. Izno (talk) 18:33, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Shades_of_brown
 * Shades_of_orange
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Template:1992 Croatia Olympic team
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 18:33, 20 October 2021 (UTC) Unused and falls under navbox crust. Tfd's from several months ago had dealt with the same issue of these Olympic team navboxes. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:53, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * 1992 Croatia Olympic team
 * Delete as unused. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:1938–39 NBL Western Division standings
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The result of the discussion was userfy. ✗ plicit  11:17, 21 October 2021 (UTC) Both unused and redundant as no articles exist for each team's respective season and the NBL season for 1938–39 and 1939–40. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:41, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * 1938–39 NBL Western Division standings
 * 1939–40 NBL Western Division standings
 * Userfy into User:SportsGuy789/NBL standings until I create at least 1 season article for each template. SportsGuy789 (talk) 16:59, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I can agree to that as an alternative. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:00, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Userfy per User:Guy789. NW1223 ( Howl at me &#124;  My hunts ) 16:36, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:5TeamBracket-Byetofinal2legs
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 18:32, 20 October 2021 (UTC) All three are unused and from what I could tell have never been used. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:29, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * 5TeamBracket-Byetofinal2legs
 * 9TeamBracket-AFC
 * 16TeamBracket-Placement8-with 3rd
 * Keep Template:5TeamBracket-Byetofinal2legs and delete the other two. I have created the first one to be used in the CAF Confederation Cup seasons' articles, starting from the 2021–22 edition, since no appropriate bracket that suits the competition format existed before. It will be used there once the play-off round draw is held. For the other two, I can see that Template:9TeamBracket-AFC was created to replace two brackets currently being used in 2021 AFC Cup knockout stage, but since the tournament's knockout stage slightly changes every season, I think it would be better to keep using the current brackets instead, and therefore I'm with deleting this template. I can't think of a competition that would benefit from third bracket too, so I'm voting for deleting it. Ben5218 (talk) 16:57, 13 October 2021 (UTC).
 * Changing my vote to delete all following Frietjes' suggestion below. Ben5218 (talk) 17:03, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Ben5218, I believe the first one can be replaced by something like  Frietjes (talk) 16:22, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That's actually true, the exact shown example cannot be used though, but with minor changes to it can be used instead of the one I created, thanks for mentioning it. Ben5218 (talk) 17:03, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Anthony Braxton compositions
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 18:32, 20 October 2021 (UTC) Unused, largely text with three links at the bottom that are to non-related articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:03, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Anthony Braxton compositions
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Museum of Illusions
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 18:31, 20 October 2021 (UTC) There is only one relevant existing article. The template has some big promo vibes. --Xurizuri (talk) 07:49, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Museum of Illusions
 * Delete No navigational benefit provided. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:17, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox rugby league biography/PERSONAL
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G6 by AnomieBOT ⚡  23:01, 19 October 2021 (UTC) Unused in mainspace. Izno (talk) 04:01, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Infobox rugby league biography/PERSONAL


 * Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:33, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Apple display specs
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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Infobox information appliance. ✗ plicit  11:16, 21 October 2021 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Apple display specs with Template:Infobox information appliance.
 * Apple display specs
 * Infobox information appliance

If this particular 'display specs' template has information generally necessary, it should be as part of the more general information appliance infobox, which is already reasonably detailed as is. Izno (talk) 02:53, 13 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:34, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge. Having a template for display specifications is clearly redundant. --Veikk0.ma 04:39, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs  talk 16:00, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge Not necessary to have two infoboxes that do the exact same thing NW1223 ( Howl at me &#124;  My hunts ) 16:33, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Herzeleid
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  07:05, 20 October 2021 (UTC) Non-standard navbox/sidebar that is used on only one page. Izno (talk) 02:38, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Herzeleid
 * Delete Articles already featured on the Rammstein navbox. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:16, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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