Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 October 4



Template:Too many flags

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  02:36, 12 October 2021 (UTC) Unused maintenance template. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Too many flags
 * Delete Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:07, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * MOSICON enforcement is hilariously bad and this template could/should/would probably help with that. --Izno (talk) 15:27, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * True, but it doesn't help while sitting around unused and undocumented, populating a category that it's likely no one is watching. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:11, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Order

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 02:15, 12 October 2021 (UTC) Maintenance template used only in two old user sandboxes. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:50, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Order
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:53, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Articles with excessive further reading sections progress

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G6 by AnomieBOT ⚡  00:01, 5 October 2021 (UTC) Category:Articles with excessive further reading sections was redirected to Category:Wikipedia further reading cleanup * Pppery * it has begun... 22:24, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Articles with excessive further reading sections progress
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:36, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Slang

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The result of the discussion was redirect to Template:Tone inline. (non-admin closure)  Invalid OS talk  12:07, 12 October 2021 (UTC) Maintenance template used only in one ref desk post from 2007 (which was trying to use the since-deleted wikt:Template:Slang anyway). * Pppery * it has begun... 22:08, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Slang
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:17, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to tone inline. --Izno (talk) 15:29, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Fine with me. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:11, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Hurricane Laura series

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 21:52, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Initially thinking this template had benefits in terms of navigation. However, only one article is linked outside of the main article and the meteorological history article. Fails the necessary amount of links needed for a navbox. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:17, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hurricane Laura series
 * Delete per nom unless WPTC has concerns. They should already be notified through their alerts. – The Grid  ( talk )  12:37, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Hurricane Isaias series
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 21:52, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Only linked to one article within the navbox. Two articles exist about the hurricane. If the navbox had both, the navigational benefit still wouldn't have been met. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:35, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hurricane Isaias series
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:08, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom unless WPTC has concerns. They should already be notified through their alerts. – The Grid  ( talk )  12:38, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:MPs elected in UK election/constituency
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 21:53, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Unused and from what I can tell hasn't been used for a long time. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:27, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * MPs elected in UK election/constituency
 * Delete per nom. --Izno (talk) 15:29, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:1920s-silent-Western-film-stub
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 15:30, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Out of synch with the series of templates used for early Western (genre) film stubs. It is effectively a duplicate of Template:1920s-Western-film-stub. It is unused too because the talkie films in the 1920s Western category have been developed beyond stub class. Other templates in the series are Template:1890s-Western-film-stub, Template:1900s-Western-film-stub, Template:1910s-Western-film-stub, Template:1930s-Western-film-stub, etc. Could probably be speedy deleted. No Great Shaker (talk) 05:59, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * 1920s-silent-Western-film-stub
 * Delete per nom.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:28, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as out of sync, but consider also writing an explanation for nominated stub-sort cats at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting just so people there are aware as well. Curbon7 (talk) 21:06, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Silent-Western-film-stub
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 21:53, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Not in use. Silent Western film stubs are checked by templates in series Template:1890s-Western-film-stub to Template:1920s-Western-film-stub. No Great Shaker (talk) 19:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Silent-Western-film-stub
 * Delete Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:19, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Schlüsselconverter
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 21:58, 11 October 2021 (UTC) This template is intended to strip spaces from a number, a task that can be more safely and generically handled by. It is currently unused. User:GKFXtalk 19:02, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Schlüsselconverter
 * Delete Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:16, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Unused, and obsolete now. Markussep Talk 09:23, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Malaysian election result/pickup
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:00, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:06, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Malaysian election result/pickup
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:MMP election box
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The result of the discussion was delete. Move to a reasonable subpage of the relevant templates. Izno (talk) 15:39, 12 October 2021 (UTC) Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:06, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * MMP election box
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Move. This is documentation for a set of templates used by two different WikiProjects that I am aware of. It should be moved to a documentation subpage of Template:MMP election box begin.- gadfium 20:23, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Fine with me to move the /doc page to a different title. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:08, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:WikiProject United States presidential elections
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 October 12. Izno (talk) 15:41, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * WikiProject_United_States_presidential_elections
 * WikiProject_United_States_presidential_elections/editintro
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Template:Cite CCC/URL lookup/doc
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The result of the discussion was Snow keep; nomination seems to have been in error. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:58, 6 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Cite CCC/URL lookup/doc
 * Cite CCC/URL lookup

Unused subpage. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:27, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you mean to nominate Template:Cite CCC/URL lookup instead? The doc page isn't unused and is properly documenting its base template. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't notice the main template, only the doc. Although I'm not sure about all the Cite CCC templates as to why there is one to begin with. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:15, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep since the main template is in fact used. Not seeing a clear reason for deletion here. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:08, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It looks like Template:CCC/TOC_lookup explains why it exists. – The Grid  ( talk )  14:41, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. The template is not unused, and deleting it would break the dozens of pages that rely on it via its parent template (Template:Cite CCC). I created the template in question (Template:Cite CCC/URL lookup), and another editor subsequently copied it to create a duplicate at Template:CCC/TOC lookup. If anything is to be nominated for deletion, it should be the duplicate, which adds no functionality beyond the original. Jdcompguy (talk) 15:25, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Historical affiliations
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The result of the discussion was userfy. Module is still a work in progress and there are some questions about whether it is appropriate. Primefac (talk) 07:31, 31 October 2021 (UTC) Unused. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:44, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Historical affiliations
 * Historical affiliations

A structure like this would work I believe, fairly trivially (further evaluation at your leisure: --Izno (talk) 19:50, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - The template has potential to be used on around 258 articles (search) to standardize the "Historical affiliations" box, which are all currently directly using Quote box, which is not the intended use case of the template. I've haven't gotten around to using the template on articles yet, but I will in the future. – Brandon XLF  (talk) 04:20, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 13:48, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete? for slightly different reasons: I agree that quote box should not be misused, but this template fails basic WP:ACCESS as well as our general color theming. --Izno (talk) 03:42, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I can adjust the template to use the colour that Template:Sidebar uses. Are there any other accessibility concerns with the template? – Brandon XLF  (talk) 18:09, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That would fix it. Izno (talk) 18:21, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, actually, it also should not be a table probably. Given you appear to be creating a list, it should be an unordered list. Izno (talk) 18:22, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think a list can be used in this case since all the flags should be in a different column than the names of the countries. It's the same reason why Template:Infobox country uses a table for the "preceded by" and "succeeded by" lists when it would be preferred to use a unordered list. – Brandon XLF  (talk) 19:26, 5 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Looking at this further, this won't work either because the text for all the rows should line up, even the ones that don't have an image. Maybe a grid layout could be used, but I don't think that'd be much better than an table. – Brandon XLF  (talk) 23:14, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You can wrap the image in its own div and size it directly since you're sizing the image anyway. Then without an image you still have the div hanging out providing that desired padding. --Izno (talk) 14:36, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Move to Module:Sandbox/BrandonXLF/historical affiliations and User:BrandonXLF/historical affiliations since it's still under development. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 15:46, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * userfy or delete, not in use at the moment. Frietjes (talk) 21:43, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
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Module:List of countries
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  14:35, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Another artifact of the creator's rejected attempt to templateize lists, similar to the past deletion at Templates for discussion/Log/2021 September 23 * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:42, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * List of countries
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 13:56, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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Module:Trunc
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The result of the discussion was delete Module:Trunc, redirect Template:Trunc. Izno (talk) 15:50, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Propose merging Module:Trunc with Module:String.
 * Trunc
 * String
 * Trunc

String-related Lua functions generally get consolidated in one module, not one for each individual template. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:38, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment 1: Module:String is only for commonly-used basic string functions, while this is an unusual module, used only in Trunc. The natural target of a possible merge would be Module:String2. This was previously proposed at Module talk:String2.
 * Comment 2: Trunc was previously used in 4,400 pages, but is now down to ~230 transclusions, apparently all in the Talk namespace, from subst'ing an old version of sofixit. was saying they were going to clean up uses of Trunc, so perhaps things are now better. The tidiest result, I think, would be to clean up the remaining uses of trunc via WP:AWB (if possible), then delete Trunc and Module:Trunc. — hike395 (talk) 04:41, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete trunc and Module:Trunc I eliminated all uses of trunc and Module:trunc that were subst'ed from sofixit. There are 62 transclusions left: should we delete? Or just leave those last ones alone? — hike395 (talk) 05:38, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete trunc and Module:Trunc, replace with or str left. There are a fairly large number of methods of carrying out this operation (, str sub new, str sub old, str left,, and more!), so “trunc” is certainly a redundant template. Given how few transclusions it now has I would recommend deletion in favour of these other methods. I've advocated cleanup of the substring templates before, which is why I opposed addding this to String2 in the doscussion linked above. My justification is that there are a large number of unclearly named  string templates which can and should be replaced by use of Module:String&#124;sub or similar, since that is only one function to learn and can chop bits off both ends of the string at the same time.User:GKFXtalk 06:41, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete trunc per GKFX. Gonnym (talk) 12:29, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect trunc to str left GKFX's comment made me refine my !vote. We can largely support the remaining 62 24 uses of trunc by redirecting it to str left. (It's not a perfect substitute, but it's good enough for such a small number of uses). In any event, we don't need Module:Trunc any more, so I'm still supporting its deletion. — hike395 (talk) 14:25, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * As nominator I am also fine with deleting Module:Trunc and deleting or redirecting trunc to Str left * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 14:46, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * delete Module:Trunc and redirect Template:Trunc. Frietjes (talk) 15:07, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Alhatorah
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 October 11. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:00, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Alhatorah
 * Alhatorah
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Template:Number in Persian
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  14:33, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Unused and I can think of no usecase for converting numbers on the English Wikipedia. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:31, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Number in Persian
 * Numeral converter
 * Delete Both unused per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 13:41, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Pandora Papers
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 October 11. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:00, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Pandora_Papers
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Template:Stationlist top
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:01, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Used on only 3 mainspace pages. Izno (talk) 01:50, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Stationlist top
 * Stationlist row
 * Stationlist row
 * Did you also mean to nominate Template:Stationlist row? It makes no sense to delete one but keep the other. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:31, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * And the module, in fact. Izno (talk) 04:12, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Which, independently of the lack of the use of the underlying template, isn't really doing anything that merits a module. Anyway, subst and delete all per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 04:16, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Subst where applicable. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 13:40, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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