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Template:Pittsburgh Pirates roster/sandbox

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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:23, 15 October 2021 (UTC) There is no reason for a sandbox version of this roster Spanneraol (talk) 16:04, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Pittsburgh Pirates roster/sandbox
 * Sandboxes are not just for people who think a change needs to be checked before being made live, they are also locations for experimentation. I see no reason to delete this one any more than any other sandbox, and I do not want to encourage a culture which does delete sandboxes as they often have significant history associated with changes to live templates. (Yes, there is at least one wiki that deletes sandboxes.) --Izno (talk) 16:33, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Is that one wiki MediaWiki.org? * Pppery * it has begun... 04:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Indeedy. Izno (talk) 04:45, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. No valid deletion rationale has been provided. Sandboxes are useful. The testcases page uses the sandbox. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:50, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: If this template page is deleted, it will create a WP:REDNOT error at Template:Pittsburgh Pirates roster/testcases. A group of gnomes has eliminated all but a tiny handful of persistent REDNOT errors; the creation of this sandbox, and of many other sandbox template pages, was part of that effort. As for why sandboxes exist: If the roster template has a problem, and someone wants to troubleshoot the problem without breaking existing transclusions, they can modify the template sandbox, see the results in the testcases page, and preview the results in a page with a transclusion. That's literally why sandboxes exist. Deletion of this sandbox would create an unpleasant precedent. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:24, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No other baseball team roster has it's own sandbox and any problems would affect all the rosters... what is special about the Pirates that requires it to have it's own testing page? That roster works the same as all the other ones. Spanneraol (talk) 17:41, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If the testcases can't function without this sandbox, then the testcases should be deleted as well. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:55, 6 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete There's no reason for a major sports team's template to have a sandbox. A sandbox is for experimentation or test edits. Not for editing the main template. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:09, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Isn't editing the main template exactly what sandboxes are for? * Pppery * it has begun... 04:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't need a sandbox to edit a roster.... those are pretty straightforward. Spanneraol (talk) 05:05, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * don't need a sandbox to edit a roster.... Izno (talk) 13:54, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No one needs a sandbox to edit a roster.. you don't seem to understand what this template is used for. If a player is cut then you remove their name and add the replacement player... it's pretty simple and straight forward.. there is no reason to run tests on this roster page. I fail to understand what anyone would need a sandbox here for. Spanneraol (talk) 16:31, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You are not the average person. You have figured wikitext out. Not everyone has. Izno (talk) 16:39, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep No valid reason for deletion. While I personally don't generally create sandboxes for the sake of doing so, and often G7 the ones I do create, I see no reason why TfD should force other people not to create them. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * This isn't a sandbox in the proper sense. We don't have sandboxes as part of a sports team's roster. What would be the point of it? If edits are made to the roster template then it's made on the main template, not a subpage. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:29, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * In what way is this not a sandbox in the proper sense? In what way does this not have the same point as all other template sandboxes? I'm completely failing to understand your argument for deletion. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:36, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Sandboxes are for test edits, not for actually editing the template. Why would there be a need for one for a template of a team's roster? --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:40, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I explained how sandboxes are useful in one of my responses above. Look for the sentence beginning "As for why". – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:06, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Why is THIS particular sandbox useful? What could you possibly be using it for? A problem with the template should be addressed on the main template page not the subpage dealing with the Pirates. Do you not know how to preview an edit? Spanneraol (talk) 16:31, 7 October 2021 (UTC)


 * keep, seems useful for testing changes. Frietjes (talk) 16:02, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Description

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete as vandalism by. ✗ plicit  14:49, 6 October 2021 (UTC) Frivolous - no use. (Previous unrelated deletion) — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 10:10, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Description
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Template:ACS Poli Timișoara squad

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  14:48, 13 October 2021 (UTC) ACS Poli Timișoara went bankrupt, so no need for a squad template anymore. Rhinen (talk) 08:02, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ACS Poli Timișoara squad
 * Delete Club folded. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:25, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 12:58, 8 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete - club is defunct so no need for a 'current' squad template. GiantSnowman 13:00, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Neighborhoods of Çatalca

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  14:49, 13 October 2021 (UTC) Only two areas exist as pages. Izno (talk) 04:41, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Neighborhoods of Çatalca
 * Delete Not enough for navbox. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:25, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
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