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Template:Klang Valley MRT lines

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  14:52, 4 May 2022 (UTC) replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/Rapid KL Frietjes (talk) 23:12, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Klang Valley MRT lines
 * Klang Valley MRT stations
 * S-line/Klang Valley MRT left/MRT Kajang Line
 * S-line/Klang Valley MRT left/MRT Putrajaya Line
 * S-line/Klang Valley MRT right/MRT Kajang Line
 * S-line/Klang Valley MRT right/MRT Putrajaya Line
 * RapidKL LRT style
 * RapidKL LRT lines
 * RapidKL LRT stations
 * S-line/RapidKL Rail left/Sri Petaling Line
 * S-line/RapidKL Rail right/Sri Petaling Line
 * S-line/RapidKL LRT left/Ampang
 * S-line/RapidKL LRT right/Ampang
 * S-line/RapidKL LRT left/Kelana Jaya
 * S-line/RapidKL LRT right/Kelana Jaya
 * S-line/RapidKL Rail left/Johan Setia line
 * S-line/RapidKL Rail right/Johan Setia line
 * Klang Valley MRT color
 * RapidKL LRT color
 * Klang Valley MRT style


 * Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 08:34, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
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Template:ETS color

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  14:52, 4 May 2022 (UTC) replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/KTM ETS. Frietjes (talk) 23:08, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ETS color
 * ETS lines
 * ETS stations
 * ETS style
 * S-line/ETS left/ETS Transit
 * S-line/ETS right/ETS Transit


 * Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 08:39, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Design 1074 ships

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 May 4. Izno (talk) 23:34, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Design_1074_ships
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Template:In the news/Last update

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 23:33, 4 May 2022 (UTC) WP:TFD #3: this is an entirely unused single-purpose template. It was once used to keep track of updates to T:ITN, but we haven't used it in 6 years. Serves no purpose anymore. Jayron 32 19:08, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * In the news/Last update
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:48, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Stephen 09:07, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
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Template:LA Ink

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 07:10, 4 May 2022 (UTC) WP:NENAN Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:52, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * LA Ink
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:47, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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Template:HabPlanetScore

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The result of the discussion was delete. Only keep argument is not breaking old revisions which is not particularly strong. Galobtter (pingó mió) 19:51, 5 May 2022 (UTC) Unused in articlespace. Unlikely to ever be used in articlespace due to inclusion of deprecated metrics. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Astronomy/Archive_24 jps (talk) 18:06, 19 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 02:16, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * HabPlanetScore
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:32, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep at a minimum as a deprecated template to ensure old edits for various articles such as List of Kepler exoplanet candidates in the habitable zone, List of potentially habitable exoplanets and various other individual exoplanet articles have historically used these templates. The nominator has historically had a vested interest in removing these metrics and likely has been responsible for removing these templates from articles that did use them between this (potentially outdated) consensus from 2016 and today, and has moved/renamed their account various times to obfuscate these edits, despite the fact that academic institutions (such as University of Puerto Rico - Arecibo) and various Astronomical simulation software (such as Universe Sandbox and Space Engine) use these metrics. The nominator has also previously nominated these templates for removal and is likely using time gaps as a way to quietly delete these templates without anyone noticing.  Davidbuddy9 💬 21:47, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as I believe it is disruptive to delete templates that are harmless, but were commonly used in the past. Deleting will mess up history views and disturb attribution particularly for off-wiki use. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:09, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete We almost never keep templates solely in order to prevent old revisions (especially revisions that are over 6 years old) from breaking, and I see no good reason to deviate from that convention here. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:46, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per Pppery and nom. "It breaks old revisions" is indeed generally insufficient, and as nom explains, the template is unused presently. --Izno (talk) 07:14, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:ESIScore

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The result of the discussion was delete. Only keep argument is not breaking old revisions which is not particularly strong. Galobtter (pingó mió) 19:52, 5 May 2022 (UTC) Unused in articlespace. Unlikely to ever be used in articlespace due to inclusion of deprecated metrics. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Astronomy/Archive_24 jps (talk) 18:06, 19 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 02:16, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ESIScore
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:32, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per same reason as Template:HabPlanetScore, nominator has previously nominated these templates and related articles over and over again in ~2016. Historical edits for various individual exoplanet pages such as Gliese 667 Cc have historically used these templates to render the ESI score, a metric recognized by certain academic institutions (such as University of Puerto Rico - Arecibo) and used by various aforementioned Astronomical software. Additionally, even if the consensus that the ESI score shouldn't be used in lists, doesn't mean that historical templates should be removed to erase historical revisions of articles that used to use these templates.  Davidbuddy9 💬 21:47, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as I believe it is disruptive to delete templates that are now harmless, but were commonly used in the past. Deleting will mess up history views and disturb attribution particularly for off-wiki use. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:10, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete We almost never keep templates solely in order to prevent old revisions (especially revisions that are over 6 years old) from breaking, and I see no good reason to deviate from that convention here * Pppery * it has begun... 02:47, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per Pppery and nom. "It breaks old revisions" is indeed generally insufficient, and as nom explains, the template is unused presently. --Izno (talk) 07:13, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Reference values for the HICP and interest rate convergence criteria (2013)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Will userify on request. Galobtter (pingó mió) 10:10, 5 May 2022 (UTC) Unused. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:13, 18 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 02:16, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Reference values for the HICP and interest rate convergence criteria (2013)
 * Keep: Important to keep in order to be used today and in the future as a historic and conceptual reference point (understanding in full detail how EU calculate their reference values). Will likely be used and linked to within the next 24 months at the enlargement of the eurozone talkpage, as part of a debate to make changes or explaining notes in order to improve the Template:Euro convergence criteria (2020). Danish Expert (talk) 11:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete This is article text that should not be in a template. And it's absurd to create a template up to two years before using it; in all likelihood it will have been completely forgotten about by then. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:48, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per Pppery and nom. I personally doubt there's a mainspace value to this as well, but even if there is at some arbitrary point in the future, WP:REFUND exists. --Izno (talk) 07:12, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Lang-may
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Tiny WP:TRAINWRECK here, looks like some of these might need to be redirected rather than deleted, which can be BOLDly done. No prejudice to renominating remaining templates once appropriate redirects/moves have been done. Galobtter (pingó mió) 21:00, 5 May 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. This lang template is for an ISO language code that does not appear to exist, so the template does not appear to be usable. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:02, 18 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 02:16, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Lang-may
 * Lang-mol
 * Lang-roa-leo
 * Lang-roa-nor
 * Lang-lom-ber
 * Lang-1bd
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:40, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment talk page indicates this is to be used for the Norman language, of which is covered by  or  ; so this is redundant with another template -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:03, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete "" replaced by and  -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:03, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment is for Moldovan language or Moldavian dialect. The language already exists at  under the name Romanian language. One of the meanings of Moldovan dialect is Romanian using the Cyrillic alphabet. This appears to be for Romanian as it exists in Moldavia. This language has ISO 639 codes "mo" and "mol", which have been deprecated, but actually existed. Therefore this is synonymous with the Romanian language codes "ro" and "ron" -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:25, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to as a synonymous deprecated ISO code -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:25, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Alternately per the template talk:lang-mol page, it was suggested this be turned into a regional template, like or  by renaming it to  for Romanian language in Moldavia; but I think it should be redirect to  -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:32, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * NOTE exists and is not nominated. That is also for Moldovan lanuage. -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:52, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to  as a synonymous ISO code, the alpha-3 code "may" is synonymous with the alpha-2 code "ms" for the Malay language -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:28, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm guessing that is for Leonese language, which indicates it has the ISO code "ast" and template  for Asturleonese language -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:38, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * If this is kept and this is for Leonese; it should be renamed using "ast" instead of "roa", as a dialect of Asturleonese language. -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 20:41, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment  is for Bergamasque dialect (Bergamo dialect) of Lombard language (per template history tab). Lombard has the ISO code "lmo" and not "lom", but I've see "lom" used for Lombard -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:49, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * If this is kept, it should use "lmo" instead of "lom", as that is the Lombardy language code -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 05:41, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment lang-mol is definitely handy: if the module is fixed to support it, it should be used to format those instances in about 10 articles, where the text is currently done manually. – Uanfala (talk) 13:12, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment wouldn't a redirect to lang-mo do? "mo" is the alpha2 code instead of the alpha3 code "mol" ; though both are deprecated in favor of the greater language name "Romanian" (alpha2 "ro") lang-ro (alpha3 "ron"). Though this could then be lang-ron-mol and lang-ro-mo -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 20:41, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, I hadn't noticed that existed. Yes, redirecting to lang-mo is definitely the better option. The shortcuts we use for the titles of our templates don't need to be specifically non-deprecated ISO codes: I think lang-ro-mo can be created as a redirect, but I don't think it should be the preferred title as it introduces too much complexity. – Uanfala (talk) 20:49, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment this might be easier to process if it were split into separate template sections -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 02:22, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
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Template:File specifications caption
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:28, 4 May 2022 (UTC) This template was formerly a subpage of a deleted template page prior to being moved to its current title a few hours ago. Per my comment at Template talk:File specifications caption (changed a bit):
 * File specifications caption

There isn't any need for this template because it replicates functionality that the "File:" namespace already has. When applicable, this information (technically, it's metadata) appears on a file's description when the respective file is uploaded. So, delete this template as unnecessary and redundant. This information this template displays is not necessary on file links since besides already being present on the file description page, it just adds more clutter to a page with information that's not helpful there anyways. Steel1943 (talk) 22:14, 17 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 02:13, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment as I indicated in the move request, one could see that someone might use this in the description of a file, when used in a discussion, perhaps discussing issues with file sizes and resolutions and what file to use; presented as part of a gallery or embed; so would need to be used on a file page itself. -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 03:24, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Umm, that last sentence doesn't make sense; when a file link is present, it "transcludes" nothing but the file, so putting anything else on the file page with the intent for it to appear when a file like is present doesn't work since that's not how the file namespace works. And there's no reason to put this template on the file page either to provide information since any such information will already be on the file itself and displayed on the file page. That, and if no one is putting this information anywhere else now, there's no evidence they will do it later either. All and all, this template is redundant redundancy. Steel1943  (talk) 00:09, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:47, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Izno (talk) 07:11, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:2012–13 Lone Star Conference men's basketball standings
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 07:09, 4 May 2022 (UTC) Unused, incomplete template for information which is arguably not notable enough to be included fuzzy510 (talk) 01:42, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * 2012–13 Lone Star Conference men's basketball standings
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:46, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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