Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 December 26



Template:NECBLAllStarGames

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 05:27, 3 January 2023 (UTC) All red links after Afds –Aidan721 (talk) 23:03, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * NECBLAllStarGames
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:01, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, A and related single-use templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:28, 2 January 2023 (UTC) Single-use article-content templates that should be substed into the only article that uses them. Having these as templates just makes the content more difficult to edit. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:45, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, A
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, B
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, C
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, D
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, E
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, F
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, G
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, H
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, K
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, M
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, N
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, O
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, P
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, Q
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, R
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, S
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, Sch
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, St
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, T
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, Table Headers
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, U
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, V
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, W
 * Municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, Z


 * Subst and delete into List of municipalities in the Province of Pomerania, per nom. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 04:13, 27 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:01, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Android smartphones

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:37, 2 January 2023 (UTC) This is a monstrosity and helps navigation for no-one. Each of these subtemplates is reasonable on the articles pertaining to that company/series, but this giant template is unreasonable on others and does not aid in navigating between articles the reader might be interested in. Izno (talk) 17:24, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Android smartphones
 * Delete per Izno. When I created that template 12 years ago, there was only a handful of devices. Android's popularity has made this template useless. Regards So  Why  17:33, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: I thought I was looking at a template big enough to be difficult to navigate. Then I saw that all of the subsections were collapsed. If someone wants to take the subsections and split them into reasonably-sized templates, go ahead. But something of this size is well past usefulness. As a final nail in the coffin, many entries are red links. HouseBlastertalk 06:46, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:02, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Not only is this template way too humongous, but we already have List of Android smartphones and Category:Android (operating system) devices, in addition to several manufacturer-specific navboxes. All of those are more useful in helping aid readers' navigatation. InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:40, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nomination. Hajoon0102  💬 00:23, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Country data NAPK

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:16, 2 January 2023 (UTC) Unused. There is no article called NAPK and the flag image (File:N.P.K._Flag.png) was removed from the template as non-free (it is not used anywhere else, either), so I doubt this template can be used at all. V27t (talk) 12:57, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Country data NAPK
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:02, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
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Template:April 14–16, 2011 tornado outbreak/Map
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:15, 2 January 2023 (UTC) Template used on only one page. Izno (talk) 10:18, 10 December 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  00:26, 18 December 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  09:49, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * April 14–16, 2011 tornado outbreak/Map
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:51, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep – Useful template that has been split from page so as to not overload page size. United States Man (talk) 05:56, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The size count in the page history is irrelevant to whether a template should exist or not. Izno (talk) 21:05, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you even know what the template is for? ChessEric (talk · contribs) 00:21, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I linked to the relevant template namespace page which has guidelines on it and am a regular here, including closing discussions, and have over 13 thousand template and module namespace edits, combined. There's another 3,300 in template talk and module talk namespaces, and about 1,400 edits to Help talk:CS1 as a significant non-template-named namespace dealing predominantly in templates, for a total of about 16,700 edits dealing with templates, which is about 20% of my total edits here. And about 80% of your edits here.
 * I suspect I have some idea of what their purpose is. It's not to "make page size smaller" but instead to allow re-use of common wikitext. why templates not used very often are nominated for deletion. It says so in the very first sentence of the page linked below: The Template namespace on Wikipedia is used to store templates, which contain Wiki markup intended for inclusion on multiple pages, usually via transclusion. Izno (talk) 01:40, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * No no no. I meant THIS template, not the thousands you've been through. Just THIS one. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 04:08, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * It's a map. Says it in the name. :) Izno (talk) 04:15, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I can read smart ass. What's the map for? ChessEric (talk · contribs) 04:18, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Why do you think that's relevant? I'm not interested in playing 20 questions with how incivil you're being. Izno (talk) 04:19, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Your rigidness is not appreciated. Pinging other people here. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 04:36, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You should review WP:CANVASS. Izno (talk) 04:40, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hmmmmmm...? I just wanted to bring more relevant people to the conversation. This is our weather project you know; I think we should all have a say. :) ChessEric (talk · contribs) 04:44, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh wait. I just saw the comment below...whoops. I feel stupid now. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 04:49, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep – I literally see no issue with it. The notion that is should be deleted because "its only on one page" is ridiculous since most templates are on only one page anyway.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 20:43, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You should review Template namespace then. As for most templates, WP:OSE, even if I thought it were a true claim. Izno (talk) 21:05, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Sooooooooooo...which guideline does it break? ChessEric (talk · contribs) 00:19, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Templates that violate the guidelines on this page, have poorly defined function, are redundant, become orphaned or, or violate any Wikipedia policies may be nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion. Emphasis mine. Izno (talk) 01:32, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * ...again, which guideline does it break? Its not any of those things except being used on one page, which is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of since we've used templates like this for multiple tornado outbreaks in the past. It shows touchdown points for all the tornadoes. Its useful for people who don't want to go through the table and wonder where the heck all these tornadoes were. To delete a template because its "only on one page" when it vastly improves the 1 page its on is dumb. Look at it first please. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 04:18, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, now I get it. You seem to misunderstand the point of TFD in general. Sometimes, we delete templates and remove them entirely. More often with templates like this one, we subst them, as has been suggested by WikiCleanerMan, such that their content remains in the article and only the template page itself is removed. If you would like to retain the content, substing it and deleting the template is called for here. Izno (talk) 04:21, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * ...oh. I feel stupid now. Sorry its been a long day. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 04:46, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep – The template appears to be very useful for the article it's for.--Halls4521 (talk) 02:11, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Frisk Asker Ishockey roster
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:47, 2 January 2023 (UTC) A long-outdated ice hockey team roster, I deleted the only use on an article, but wanted to bring it here before outright deleting. Kaiser matias (talk) 08:12, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Frisk Asker Ishockey roster
 * I'll also note I see that Category:GET-ligaen roster templates exists, and based on this discussion all 6 templates should be considered here. Kaiser matias (talk) 08:16, 26 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:02, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
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Template:NECBL seasons
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 12:37, 2 January 2023 (UTC) All red links after Afds. –Aidan721 (talk) 04:18, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * NECBL seasons
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:02, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Shakespeare's plays
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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:William Shakespeare. Izno (talk) 02:34, 2 January 2023 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Shakespeare's plays with Template:William Shakespeare.
 * Shakespeare's plays
 * William Shakespeare

Every link here, including the title link and the links that represent names of rows and even the category link at the bottom of the page, can be appropriately merged (and, actually, is already so) in Template:William Shakespeare. 2.191.171.66 (talk) 00:11, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:01, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
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A5
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 02:31, 2 January 2023 (UTC) Cleaning up now-useless templates related to the A5 speedy deletion criterion following its repeal. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:26, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Db-a5
 * Db-transwiki-notice
 * Db-transwiki-notice-NPF
 * Db-transwiki-deleted

Notified: WT:TW&#32;(diff). HouseBlastertalk 02:36, 27 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per previous discussions. I get the historical value argument, so no prejudice against moving (without redirects) to a "museum" of sorts alongside the other ex-CSDs (e.g. to subpages of WP:Criteria for speedy deletion) in the future. But I strongly agree with the "red tells you there is a problem" argument—these links should turn red. HouseBlastertalk 02:36, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:02, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
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