Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 May 7



Template:Ambiguous short name

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The result of the discussion was replace and delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 13:37, 21 May 2022 (UTC) Every single possible use of this template either violates WP:NAMB or is redundant to redirect. * Pppery * it has begun... 13:14, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe distinguish
 * Hatnote lists

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:21, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I created the template because I had a use case that wasn't covered by current hatnotes. There is no redundancy to redirect, given that this template has nothing to do with redirects. Obviously, this hatnote, just like other disambiguating hatnotes, should only be used when there's an actual need for disambiguation. Take, for example, the case of Eastern Orthodox Church: one of the use cases for this template. If I search on Google for "Orthodox Church," I get an infobox featuring the Eastern Orthodox Church article on Wikipedia. This is because "Orthodox Church" is a common shortening of "Eastern Orthodox Church." Let say that the reader is actually searching for another church called "Orthodox Church," but doesn't know quite enough about the topic to know whether the identification of "Eastern Orthodox Church" with "Orthodox Church" is an identification as true synonym or as synonymic instance. Without this hatnote, the reader might be confused by the lede of that article, which says that "Orthodox Church" is another name for "Eastern Orthodox Church" (which is true). But this hatnote helps guide the reader in that situation, giving the reader a brief explanation, and pointing the reader to the disambiguation page that can lead to the article the reader is looking for. This template is useful in cases in which there's no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for a term (and therefore no redirect), but there's still a likelihood of ambiguity when a shorter version of the article name is readily conflated with the full title. Although this hatnote covers subtly different use cases, it is similar in spirit to Other uses of and Distinguish, so if this template is inherently WP:NAMB-violating as the nominator asserts, I have a difficult time understanding why those other hatnote templates would not be as well. Jdcompguy (talk) 15:23, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Subsequent to this nomination, I renamed the template to Template:Maybe distinguish because this does a much better job of communicating this template's range of use cases and its relation to existing ones. Jdcompguy (talk) 16:07, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep the template and module. Delete the redirect. Jdcompguy (talk) 16:53, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Neither of the two current uses needs this template in a way that couldn't be replaced with one of the other myriad hatnote templates. Replace and delete. --Izno (talk) 05:49, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * delete after replacing with other hatnote templates (e.g., [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eastern_Orthodox_Church&type=revision&diff=1088939086&oldid=1088571527 like this] or [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IPhone_(1st_generation)&type=revision&diff=1088939475&oldid=1088349861 like this]). Frietjes (talk) 23:24, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Manila Stars roster

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 05:51, 15 May 2022 (UTC) Unused. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:07, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Manila Stars roster


 * Delete or subst and delete. I have no idea if the information here is up-to-date or correct. But if it is, it can be subst to Manila Stars and deleted. Gonnym (talk) 14:00, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:No. 1 series

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 05:45, 15 May 2022 (UTC) Unused. Not an actual series of films. No main connection other than the similarity of titles. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:07, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * No. 1 series


 * Delete. I was trying to see what the franchise is about but it seems WCM is correct that they are unrelated as the 4 articles I've checked don't even mention this. Gonnym (talk) 13:59, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Scientology probation

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  08:10, 15 May 2022 (UTC) Unused. Izno (talk) 18:27, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Scientology probation
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:33, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Cite cookbook

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:36, 7 May 2022 (UTC) Single use template, usage should be changed to cite web --Minorax &laquo;&brvbar;talk&brvbar;&raquo; 08:18, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Cite cookbook


 * This book, although being called a cookbook, beautifully describes the interesting cultures and traditions and eating habits of the multiethnic groups in northern Laos. This book also best summarizes how Lao people in general enjoy eating sticky rice with fruit, including mangoes.
 * As the authors stated, this book is now available for free loading:
 * https://foodfromnorthernlaos.com/download-our-book/
 * Download our book
 * Here is our Gourmand award winning book “FOOD FROM NORTHERN LAOS: The Boat Landing Cookbook” available for free download as it is now out of print.
 * Food from N Laos pdf (2019)
 * Kees and I decided not to reprint because:
 * •	we want the information to be freely available to anyone interested
 * •	the cultural knowledge contained in the book belongs to the Lao people.
 * Now if a nice publisher wants to reprint the book (our print run was 3,000 copies) please contact us for permission. But the deal is that the free version stays available through this website and the Boat Landing website.
 * Cheers,
 * Dorothy and Kees
 * As the author stated:
 * Note: If citation of this book goes against the rules of Wikipedia, maybe I could take a photo of only a small section of the book describing how Lao people eat mango with sticky rice, and show it in references section as in reference 9? Bounthy (talk) 14:22, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Archive-header

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:34, 15 May 2022 (UTC) Functional duplicate of archive. Izno (talk) 05:40, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Archive-header
 * Delete per norm. --Vaco98 (talk) 18:59, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Netflix Halloween films
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  08:08, 15 May 2022 (UTC) Three links. Fails NENAN. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:07, 30 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  05:39, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Netflix Halloween films
 * I am tempted to say that we should merge this to Template:Netflix Christmas films and move the whole thing to Template:Netflix holiday films, and throw in Michael Bolton's Big, Sexy Valentine's Day Special. BD2412  T 06:00, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Why even have both? Creating navboxes for films of a certain genre made by a certain company/studio seems to be overkill. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:37, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Nightbooks wasn't even released in October so not sure how this is a Halloween film. Gonnym (talk) 09:54, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Neither is A Babysitter's Guide to Monster Hunting. There is only one link article related to the subject. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:18, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * With that said, this meets the deletion requirements because there is only one link that is part of the subject. I don't think merging this article, Hubie Halloween, with the Christmas Netflix films navbox does any good. Holiday films could still mean Christmas films. And the Hubie Halloween article already is linked in two navboxes that are doing the job of navigation already. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:16, 8 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete without prejudice to future re-creation. --Izno (talk) 05:55, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Alsoknown
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  08:07, 15 May 2022 (UTC) 15 year old template that is used in only about 50 talk pages. At this point, either the pages should have been made or they aren't useful. Izno (talk) 05:17, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Alsoknown
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:33, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
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Toronto station templates
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  03:21, 14 May 2022 (UTC) All replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/Toronto Transit Commission. All transclusions replaced.  Cards   84664   04:33, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * TTC style
 * TTC lines
 * TTC color
 * TTC stations
 * S-line/TTC left/504 King
 * S-line/TTC left/505 Dundas
 * S-line/TTC left/509 Harbourfront
 * S-line/TTC left/510 Spadina
 * S-line/TTC left/511 Bathurst
 * S-line/TTC left/512 St. Clair
 * S-line/TTC left/Bloor–Danforth
 * S-line/TTC left/Crosstown
 * S-line/TTC left/Finch West
 * S-line/TTC left/Scarborough Extension
 * S-line/TTC left/Scarborough RT
 * S-line/TTC left/Sheppard
 * S-line/TTC left/Yonge–University
 * S-line/TTC right/504 King
 * S-line/TTC right/505 Dundas
 * S-line/TTC right/509 Harbourfront
 * S-line/TTC right/510 Spadina
 * S-line/TTC right/511 Bathurst
 * S-line/TTC right/512 St. Clair
 * S-line/TTC right/Bloor–Danforth
 * S-line/TTC right/Crosstown
 * S-line/TTC right/Scarborough Extension
 * S-line/TTC right/Scarborough RT
 * S-line/TTC right/Sheppard
 * S-line/TTC right/Yonge–University
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:33, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Template:TTC color and Template:TTC stations should also be replaced by the module to fully complete the transition. Gonnym (talk) 19:38, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Added color. Will add stations when I've replaced those redirect invocations of TTCS.  Cards   84664   14:36, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * added stations. Frietjes (talk) 19:20, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * delete, all replaced. Frietjes (talk) 19:20, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete — DaxServer (t · m · c) 14:39, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
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