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2016 Summer Olympics water polo group standings templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 18:10, 25 February 2023 (UTC) unused after being merged with the parent article with attribution and transcluding articles converted to use WP:LST. Frietjes (talk) 23:56, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo group A standings
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo group B standings
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo group A standings
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo group B standings
 * 2016 Summer Olympics water polo group standings templates
 * 2016 Summer Olympics water polo convenience templates
 * Water polo at the Summer Olympics convenience templates
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
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2016 Summer Olympics water polo game reference templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 18:10, 25 February 2023 (UTC) unused after being merged with the parent article with attribution and transcluding articles converted to use WP:LST. Frietjes (talk) 23:56, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A1
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A2
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A3
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 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A14
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A15
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B1
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 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B3
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B4
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 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B8
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 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B10
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 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B13
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 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game C1
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 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game D1
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game D2
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game E1
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game E2
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game F1
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game F2
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game G1
 * 2016 Summer Olympics men's water polo game G2
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game A1
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game A2
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game A3
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game A4
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game A5
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game A6
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game B1
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game B2
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game B3
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game B4
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game B5
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game B6
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game C1
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game C2
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game C3
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game C4
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game D1
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game D2
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game E1
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game E2
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game F1
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game F2
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game G1
 * 2016 Summer Olympics women's water polo game G2
 * 2016 Summer Olympics water polo game reference templates
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
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2012 Summer Olympics water polo group standings templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 18:10, 25 February 2023 (UTC) unused after being merged with the parent article with attribution and transcluding articles converted to use WP:LST. Frietjes (talk) 23:56, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo group A standings
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo group B standings
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo group A standings
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo group B standings
 * 2012 Summer Olympics water polo group standings templates
 * 2012 Summer Olympics water polo convenience templates
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
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2012 Summer Olympics water polo game reference templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 18:09, 25 February 2023 (UTC) unused after being merged with the parent article with attribution and transcluding articles converted to use WP:LST. Frietjes (talk) 23:56, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A1
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A2
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A3
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A4
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A5
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A6
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A7
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A8
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A9
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A10
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A11
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A12
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A13
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A14
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game A15
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B1
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B2
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B3
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B4
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B5
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B6
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B7
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B8
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B9
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B10
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B11
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B12
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B13
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B14
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game B15
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game C1
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game C2
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game C3
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game C4
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game D1
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game D2
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game E1
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game E2
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game F1
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game F2
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game G1
 * 2012 Summer Olympics men's water polo game G2
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game A1
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game A2
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game A3
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game A4
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game A5
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game A6
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game B1
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game B2
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game B3
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game B4
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game B5
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game B6
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game C1
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game C2
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game C3
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game C4
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game D1
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game D2
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game E1
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game E2
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game F1
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game F2
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game G1
 * 2012 Summer Olympics women's water polo game G2
 * 2012 Summer Olympics water polo game reference templates
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
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Single use Bulgaria labelled maps

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 05:02, 2 March 2023 (UTC) All the above labelled map templates were created in 2011 and transcluded in only one article. Size in bytes ranges between 1.1k-3.3k, markup is not intricate. 12 years later they seem unlikely to be of use in multiple articles, so it is better to subst in respective articles and delete them. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 14:59, 22 February 2023 (UTC) William Allen Simpson (talk) 16:35, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Aksakovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Alfatar Municipality Labelled Map
 * Antonovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Apriltsi Municipality Labelled Map
 * Avren Municipality Labelled Map
 * Balchik Municipality Labelled Map
 * Belene Municipality Labelled Map
 * Belogradchik Municipality Labelled Map
 * Belogradchik Municipality Labelled Map
 * Beloslav Municipality Labelled Map
 * Berkovitsa Municipality Labelled Map
 * Borovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Boychinovtsi Municipality Labelled Map
 * Boynitsa Municipality Labelled Map
 * Bregovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Brusartsi Municipality Labelled Map
 * Byala Municipality, Ruse Province Labelled Map
 * Byala Municipality, Varna Province Labelled Map
 * Cherven Bryag Municipality Labelled Map
 * Chiprovtsi Municipality Labelled Map
 * Chuprene Municipality Labelled Map
 * Dalgopol Municipality Labelled Map
 * Devnya Municipality Labelled Map
 * Dimovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Dobrichka Municipality Labelled Map
 * Dolna Mitropoliya Municipality Labelled Map
 * Dolni Chiflik Municipality Labelled Map
 * Dolni Dabnik Municipality Labelled Map
 * Dryanovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Dulovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Dve Mogili Municipality Labelled Map
 * Elena Municipality Labelled Map
 * Gabrovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * General Toshevo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Georgi Damyanovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Glavinitsa Municipality Labelled Map
 * Gorna Oryahovitsa Municipality Labelled Map
 * Gramada Municipality Labelled Map
 * Gulyantsi Municipality Labelled Map
 * Hitrino Municipality Labelled Map
 * Iskar Municipality Labelled Map
 * Isperih Municipality Labelled Map
 * Ivanovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Kaolinovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Kaspichan Municipality Labelled Map
 * Kavarna Municipality Labelled Map
 * Kaynardzha Municipality Labelled Map
 * Knezha Municipality Labelled Map
 * Krushari Municipality Labelled Map
 * Kubrat Municipality Labelled Map
 * Kula Municipality Labelled Map
 * Letnitsa Municipality Labelled Map
 * Levski Municipality Labelled Map
 * Lom Municipality Labelled Map
 * Lovech Municipality Labelled Map
 * Loznitsa Municipality Labelled Map
 * Lukovit Municipality Labelled Map
 * Lyaskovets Municipality Labelled Map
 * Makresh Municipality Labelled Map
 * Medkovets Municipality Labelled Map
 * Nikola Kozlevo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Nikopol Municipality Labelled Map
 * Novi Pazar Municipality Labelled Map
 * Novo Selo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Omurtag Municipality Labelled Map
 * Pavlikeni Municipality Labelled Map
 * Pleven Municipality Labelled Map
 * Polski Trambesh Municipality Labelled Map
 * Popovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Pordim Municipality Labelled Map
 * Provadiya Municipality Labelled Map
 * Razgrad Municipality Labelled Map
 * Ruse Municipality Labelled Map
 * Ruzhintsi Municipality Labelled Map
 * Samuil Municipality Labelled Map
 * Sevlievo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Shabla Municipality Labelled Map
 * Shumen Municipality Labelled Map
 * Silistra Municipality Labelled Map
 * Sitovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Slivo Pole Municipality Labelled Map
 * Smyadovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Strazhitsa Municipality Labelled Map
 * Suhindol Municipality Labelled Map
 * Suvorovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Svishtov Municipality Labelled Map
 * Targovishte Municipality Labelled Map
 * Tervel Municipality Labelled Map
 * Teteven Municipality Labelled Map
 * Troyan Municipality Labelled Map
 * Tryavna Municipality Labelled Map
 * Tsar Kaloyan Municipality Labelled Map
 * Tsenovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Tutrakan Municipality Labelled Map
 * Ugarchin Municipality Labelled Map
 * Valchedram Municipality Labelled Map
 * Valchi Dol Municipality Labelled Map
 * Varbitsa Municipality Labelled Map
 * Varna Municipality Labelled Map
 * Varshets Municipality Labelled Map
 * Veliki Preslav Municipality Labelled Map
 * Veliko Tarnovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Venets Municipality Labelled Map
 * Vetovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Vetrino Municipality Labelled Map
 * Vidin Municipality Labelled Map
 * Yablanitsa Municipality Labelled Map
 * Yakimovo Municipality Labelled Map
 * Zavet Municipality Labelled Map
 * Zlataritsa Municipality Labelled Map
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete after subst: per nomination.
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Template:Chessgames game

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:02, 3 March 2023 (UTC) This template is incorrectly used to hide an external link in the body of an article with a simple image, instead of correctly either being used as a reference in the body, or an external link without the image in the external links section (see Manual of Style/Linking). I've tried to correct this and was reverted. As it currently is used, I see no way it can be kept (but I prefer the changes to the template and transclusions are restored). Since the page has no talk page, bringing it to TfD is the only real option. Gonnym (talk) 12:56, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Chessgames game
 * Keep. Per WP:ELLIST, "appropriate external links can be displayed compactly within [a] table". The images are a means to display the links compactly. The nominator doesn't understand that the purpose of the links is to provide the reader with extra information that is too detailed to be included in the text. They aren't used as references for any information in the article. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 16:09, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Not all templates containing links to external sources must be placed in the "External Links" topic, a colleague gave an example just above. Therefore, I do not consider this template "cluttering up Wikipedia with external links", since they are: 1) more than constructive for a chess fans who visits one or another Wikipedia chess page for detailed information, 2) are visually minimized on the Wikipedia, 3) provide links exclusively to specific games of the universally recognized world site of chess statistics.
 * Moreover, tagging a template as "Template for discussion" requires the person doing it some skill set to be careful not to mess up those existing Wikipedia pages where the template is used. Now there is a certain set of pages about various chess tournaments, where after this action the "layout of wikipage" has become seriously disturbed. Gottfrid (talk) 21:56, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, as far as I can tell, in Aron Nimzowitsch this should be a citation template, maybe . in Vera Menchik, it should have some link text like "report" which is done for other sports matches. Frietjes (talk) 00:06, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * How the template is used in the Aron Nimzowitsch article is different from its intended usage in a table. It's not meant to be used in a "notable games" section at all. (You can check out an old revision of that page for what that section is supposed to look like.) Sportsfan77777 (talk) 09:08, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete. In its current use it's frankly unacceptable as hiding that it is an external link. In its apparent former and intended use, it prejudices one website unreasonably for the purposes of inline listing, which is not the exception that ELLIST does allow; not the example is very much "a a directory of links to a series of websites for politicians". As for ELLIST, using links in lists should be the exception, not the rule, and it sits on shaky ground anyway from a PAG perspective (but that is for elsewhere). Izno (talk) 05:06, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. In my opinion the issue with this template is that it obfuscates the link. The link is hidden behind a generic image of a chess board, so that if you come across this template in an article it isn't obvious that it is a link and it isn't obvious what site it leads to. To get around this the uses in tables have to have to have extra cells explaining what the images are, but this shouldn't be necessary - a link should be obvious just from looking at it. In addition I substantially agree with the points being made by Izno about the appropriateness of these links to begin with. The moves that were played in a game should be included in the article, so this fails WP:ELNO point 1, and it does seem to play favourites with a website for the sake of a small link. Hopefully Wugapodes will finish mw:Extension:ChessBrowser, so we can embed interactive chess games into pages directly, rather than using external sites. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 14:10, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Persecution with skin color
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2023 March 2. Izno (talk) 05:09, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Persecution_with_skin_color
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Template:The Tenant of Wildfell Hall
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The result of the discussion was delete. Galobtter (pingó mió) 04:48, 2 March 2023 (UTC) No real need for a template. Four of the seven links are simply redirects to the main article, and Helen Graham (The Tenant of Wildfell Hall) doesn't need a separate article either. (I'm going to nominate her for deletion.) Clarityfiend (talk) 08:04, 22 February 2023 (UTC) William Allen Simpson (talk) 16:34, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The Tenant of Wildfell Hall
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:34, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination.
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Template:Non existing
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:26, 1 March 2023 (UTC) Currently unused, see Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Non existing. Its Category:Templates used by fb templates is up for deletion. William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:14, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Non existing
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:25, 1 March 2023 (UTC) Limited transclusions; should be subst'd and deleted – lomrjyo talk 02:24, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comparison visual landing systems.svg
 * Subst and delete as needed. cm&#610;&#671;ee&#9094;&#964;a&#671;&#954; 09:44, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:34, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
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