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Template:From

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 23:38, 24 July 2023 (UTC) Not really sure what this is, but its an unused template and should almost certainly not be named "from".  Aza24  (talk)   22:54, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * From
 * Comment from reading the source code, this appears to be a sourcing template to attribute copying between different Wikipedias, where a file is copied between different language wikipedias. -- 67.70.25.80 (talk) 04:10, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. No transclusions or documentation. Terrible name. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:25, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:39, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Lil Uzi Vert songs

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  14:04, 24 July 2023 (UTC) Redundant to Template:Lil Uzi Vert. Binksternet (talk) 13:26, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Lil Uzi Vert songs


 * Redirect to Template:Lil Uzi Vert per nom.
 * Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 14:39, 18 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:39, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
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Template:XXXTentacion songs

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  14:04, 24 July 2023 (UTC) Redundant to Template:XXXTentacion. Binksternet (talk) 13:16, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * XXXTentacion songs
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:47, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:39, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Bc-000s

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  10:11, 29 July 2023 (UTC) A set of unused date templates created almost a year ago. Gonnym (talk) 12:01, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Bc-000s
 * Bc-00s
 * Bc-at
 * Bc-dp
 * Bc-i2
 * Bc-ig
 * Bc-m
 * Bc-ot
 * Bc-r
 * Bc-sd
 * Bc-tn
 * Bc-y1


 * I would ask to not delete these templates. They are part of my future proposal for a Wiki project, which is in a draft state right now. I need more time to prepare my proposal than I initially anticipated. Within a few days I’ll create a demo page that will showcase the usage of these templates, so that at least they are not marked as unused. KarenGrigMan (talk) 10:35, 18 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge. At a bare minimum, all of the templates listed at WikiProject Detectable BC/BCE dates should be merged into one or two templates, as I proposed to the creator nine months ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:28, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all This is WP:DATEPOLL/mw:Manual:Dynamic dates all over again. Let's not. Wikipedia has over 6 million articles, and thus a lot of internal inertia. Any proposals to change things like date formatting that could apply to a large fraction of articles are doomed to become half-implemented wastelands and eventually cleaned up years down the line. * Pppery * it has begun...  19:47, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * There are only about 60,000 pages that contain BC dates. More than half of them contain only 1 or 2 dates BC that most of the time don’t even require any markup. In general, most edits associated with this project will be about adding era labels (BC or BCE) where appropriate and not in adding markup. This, by the way, will have a side effect of improving readability for people who don’t use alternative timelines (i.e. general public). With the right tools (which I’m still developing) even one person will be able to maintain the markup on all those thousands of pages in working condition.
 * On top of that it isn’t even important if the project is half implemented as long as there are people who find the project helpful. For example, if on every page I visit, the dates are converted perfectly and I can use my alternative timeline, it won’t matter to me that there are some pages out there where the markup is not implemented. If I encounter such page I would spend a few seconds to fix it before reading it.
 * There is much more I can tell about this project. It is totally unlike anything that has been proposed before. But I wouldn’t want to discuss it now, before I make a proper proposal. And these templates are absolutely needed (they will be used in the proposal). Yes, they may be eventually edited or merged as suggested by Jonesey95 but that’s to be discussed in the future. Also, the templates have pretty unique names, so I don’t think anybody will need to reuse those names any time soon. I don’t see the urgency in deleting them. We can at least wait until I make the proposal, hopefully by the end of this year.
 * KarenGrigMan (talk) 05:50, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * There probably should be a template that can provide &lt;time> support for use in arbitrary articles. I don't really think this is it. (Not that the time element supports BC dates -- it doesn't -- just a general comment.) Izno (talk) 19:08, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all mainly per Pppery and Izno. This is a massive collection of unused templates for a "web standard" that isn't recognised by anyone and isn't used anywhere. The idea of reformatting dates via user preference has already been tried once and rejected. The principles "Wikipedia is not for things you made up one day" and "Wikipedia is not for running experiments" are well established at this point, and in my opinion they both apply to the situation here - this is a "standard" that no-one has adopted and that seems to have been invented by the creator of these templates a year ago. I also think this "standard" is poorly defined. The white paper the creator has produce states that 17 different forms of markup are required. The proposed mark-up mixes data with presentational information - why on earth does this "standard" need completley different markup for dates with slashes, dates followed by the word "decades", dates followed by an s, dates ending with 0 ending followed by an s, dates ending with 00 followed by an s etc? If we are going to add machine readable metadata to our BC dates to allow automated conversion it should be done following an established web standard, not a pseudo-standard that no one actually supports that someone just randomly made up. I would also support deleting the rest of these templates, which have a single use in Draft:Roman Republic. 192.76.8.89 (talk) 17:06, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * delete, not needed. Frietjes (talk) 15:05, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
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Template:TalkPageArchives

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 23:36, 24 July 2023 (UTC) Single use template that can only be used by one user on one page. This template contains a table of links to WhichUserAmI/Seventh Ward Dragon's talk page archives, and a table explaining what the colours mean. Since this is completely useless on any page except Seventh Ward Dragon's talk page there is no reason for this to be in template space, it should either be substituted and deleted or userfied. 192.76.8.82 (talk) 11:30, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * TalkPageArchives


 * Change so that it supports all user talk pages, e.g. Special:MyTalk/Archive 1, etc. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 14:01, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Edward-Woodrow We already have Template:Archives which works with all archive schemes and has all kinds of formatting options. This is just a hardcoded table for one person's talk page. 192.76.8.82 (talk) 15:20, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Move to user's page or really just delete. This color scheme is horrible and we already have better archive templates which are maintained. Gonnym (talk) 15:52, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Really just moved to user's page Seventh Ward   Dragon  02:41, 18 July 2023 (UTC)


 * delete, already moved. Frietjes (talk) 17:16, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Badge Display/ZAR

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  20:24, 20 July 2023 (UTC) Untranscluded subpage with no useful incoming links. The documentation appears to describe Badge Display instead of this subpage. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:47, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Badge Display/ZAR
 * Agreed. This is left behind from when I converted to a LUA module. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoonDock (talk • contribs) 12:00, 17 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete G7 per above. Gonnym (talk) 16:02, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
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Template:LDS Temple geographic region2

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  20:24, 20 July 2023 (UTC) Unused. Was used and and removed after a few hours by the template's creator. Gonnym (talk) 03:14, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * LDS Temple geographic region2


 * Agreed. Speedy delete G7. No further need for use. Thank you  for noticing this. Dmm1169 (talk) 23:32, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
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Template:LDS Temple/McAllen Texas

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  03:59, 24 July 2023 (UTC) Unused template. Template:LDS Temple/McAllen Texas Temple is used instead. Gonnym (talk) 03:09, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * LDS Temple/McAllen Texas


 * Agreed.  No need for use as standard for naming US temples is Template:LDS Temple/City State Temple (includes the word "Temple" at the end). Thank you  for noticing this. Dmm1169 (talk) 23:36, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Realized after comment I was not the author so G7 speedy delete does not apply.Dmm1169 (talk) 23:48, 17 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:39, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
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Template:List LDS Temple Asia Map

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 23:34, 24 July 2023 (UTC) Unused other than in one talk page. Subst there and delete template. Gonnym (talk) 03:04, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * List LDS Temple Asia Map


 * Agreed. . No further need for use. Thank you  for noticing this. Dmm1169 (talk) 23:37, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Realized after comment I was not the author so G7 speedy delete does not apply.Dmm1169 (talk) 23:46, 17 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:39, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
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Template:LDS Temple list/size-height

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  03:58, 24 July 2023 (UTC) Unused Template:LDS Temple list sub templates. Gonnym (talk) 02:57, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * LDS Temple list/size-height
 * LDS Temple list/size-site
 * LDS Temple list/size-site/infobox
 * LDS Temple list/size-site/list
 * Delete all per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:47, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:39, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Harvard citation/core/tagref

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G8 by AnomieBOT ⚡  20:24, 20 July 2023 (UTC) Unused sub templates of Template:Harvard citation/core which was deleted 5 years ago. Gonnym (talk) 02:47, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Harvard citation/core/tagref
 * Harvard citation/core/tagrefname
 * Harvard citation/core/tagrefopen
 * Delete all per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:47, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
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