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National Football League (Ireland) Division 3/4 tables

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:43, 1 June 2023 (UTC) unused after being merged with the parent articles. Frietjes (talk) 21:24, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * 2018 National Football League (Ireland) Division 3 table
 * 2018 National Football League (Ireland) Division 4 table
 * 2019 National Football League (Ireland) Division 3 table
 * 2019 National Football League (Ireland) Division 4 table
 * 2022 National Football League (Ireland) Division 3 table
 * 2022 National Football League (Ireland) Division 4 table
 * 2023 National Football League (Ireland) Division 3 table
 * 2023 National Football League (Ireland) Division 4 table
 * 2024 National Football League (Ireland) Division 3 table
 * 2024 National Football League (Ireland) Division 4 table
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Releases openSUSE

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:48, 1 June 2023 (UTC) Single-article content template with no template parameters. Subst into article and delete template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Releases openSUSE
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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Template:1991 CONCACAF Gold Cup group tables

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:46, 1 June 2023 (UTC) unused after being merged with the parent article. Frietjes (talk) 19:54, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * 1991 CONCACAF Gold Cup group tables
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 20:47, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 20:49, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Row-break

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:46, 1 June 2023 (UTC) unused Frietjes (talk) 19:17, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Row-break
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Israel WBC record

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:46, 1 June 2023 (UTC) unused, duplicates the table in the article Frietjes (talk) 19:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Israel WBC record
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Gold medallist

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:45, 1 June 2023 (UTC) unused Frietjes (talk) 19:12, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Gold medallist
 * Silver medallist
 * Bronze medallist
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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Template:GNF Ortholog box

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:44, 1 June 2023 (UTC) unused Frietjes (talk) 19:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * GNF Ortholog box
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Football at the 2003 Pan American Games

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:44, 1 June 2023 (UTC) per prior discussion Frietjes (talk) 19:10, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Football at the 2003 Pan American Games
 * Football at the 2007 Pan American Games
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 20:50, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Bb-state-big

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:44, 1 June 2023 (UTC) unused. Frietjes (talk) 18:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Bb-state-big
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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Unused ZSU templates

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2023 June 16. Primefac (talk) 07:30, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * OPBr_ZSU
 * 3_OTBr_ZSU
 * 4_OTBr_ZSU
 * 13_OYeBr_ZSU
 * 14_OMBr_ZSU
 * 17_OTBr_ZSU
 * 26_OABr_ZSU
 * 27_OReABr_ZSU
 * 43_OABr_ZSU
 * 44_OABr_ZSU
 * 45_OABr_ZSU
 * 55_OABr_ZSU
 * 56_OMPBr_ZSU
 * 57_OMPBr_ZSU
 * 58_OMPBr_ZSU
 * 66_OMBr_ZSU
 * 71_OYeBr_ZSU
 * 80_ODShBr_ZSU
 * 95_ODShBr_ZSU
 * 101_OBrO_HSh_ZSU
 * 406_OABr_ZSU
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Template:Central platform box

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:43, 1 June 2023 (UTC) Single-use template. Mikeblas (talk) 16:44, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Central platform box
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * delete, now boldly substituted with attribution. Frietjes (talk) 14:48, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
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Copa Libertadores standings templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  15:06, 1 June 2023 (UTC) no longer in use after being merged with the parent articles per prior discussion. Frietjes (talk) 15:06, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * 1993 Copa Libertadores group tables
 * 1995 Copa Libertadores group tables
 * 1996 Copa Libertadores group tables
 * 1998 Copa Libertadores group tables
 * 2003 Copa Libertadores group tables
 * 2015 Copa Libertadores Group 1
 * 2015 Copa Libertadores Group 2
 * 2015 Copa Libertadores Group 3
 * 2015 Copa Libertadores Group 4
 * 2015 Copa Libertadores Group 5
 * 2015 Copa Libertadores Group 6
 * 2015 Copa Libertadores Group 7
 * 2015 Copa Libertadores Group 8
 * 2016 Copa Libertadores Group 1
 * 2016 Copa Libertadores Group 2
 * 2016 Copa Libertadores Group 3
 * 2016 Copa Libertadores Group 4
 * 2016 Copa Libertadores Group 5
 * 2016 Copa Libertadores Group 6
 * 2016 Copa Libertadores Group 7
 * 2016 Copa Libertadores Group 8
 * 2017 Copa Libertadores Group 1
 * 2017 Copa Libertadores Group 2
 * 2017 Copa Libertadores Group 3
 * 2017 Copa Libertadores Group 4
 * 2017 Copa Libertadores Group 5
 * 2017 Copa Libertadores Group 6
 * 2017 Copa Libertadores Group 7
 * 2017 Copa Libertadores Group 8
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 20:50, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Medieval Lands by Charles Cawley

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:31, 2 June 2023 (UTC) Since 2012, the Reliable Source Noticeboard has repeatedly identified fmg.ac (Foundation for Medieval Genealogy) / Medieval Lands by Charles Cawley as an unreliable source (in 2010 there seems not to have been a consensus yet). In 2012, Template talk:Medieval Lands by Charles Cawley established an odd compromise, namely including the standard warning [self-published source][better source needed] into the template, even though Medieval Lands by Charles Cawley is a clear violation of WP:SELFPUB, which states: Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established subject-matter expert, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications. User:ActivelyDisinterested already indicated that Charles Cawley "is a retired corporate lawyer who now devotes himself full time to historical research". That doesn't seem to be a "relevant field". There seems to be no reason to exempt Cawley from WP:SELFPUB. This template is currently used 576 times on English Wikipedia, even though we have known for at least 11 years that it is an unreliable source. Time to do what is right, and purge it.
 * Medieval Lands by Charles Cawley

Background information: Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 06:50, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * This should go. Multiple discussions at RSN have shown that MLs misuses sources, uses sources that are known forgeries, and uncritically uses primaries sources. It's not a reliable source. I'm not sure what happens here, as the template is still in use. But if any work is required I'd be willing to help -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 12:38, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Support deletion, from the discussion it appears the intention was always to phase out its use. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 16:17, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @ActivelyDisinterested @Horse Eye's Back I'm very glad you agree with me and support this nomination. This is only the second time that I've really made a submission at RSN, and the first time we were on opposite sides and you didn't exactly go easy on me, but you turned out to be justified in doing so. I'm glad to be on the same side now. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:33, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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