Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 January 5

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Template:Taxonomy/Archosauria/Reptilia

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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:12, 13 January 2024 (UTC) Redundant with Taxonomy/Archosauria. (I've disabled the deletion tag since I'm worried it might break the automatic taxobox system.) jlwoodwa (talk) 23:04, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Taxonomy/Archosauria/Reptilia


 * I had to remove tfd from Taxonomy/Archosauria/Reptilia entirely, since even putting it in &lt;noinclude&gt; breaks the taxobox system. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a skip template. It allows taxoboxes of crown-archosaurs (like Prestosuchus for example) to not display the clades Archosauromorpha and Archosauriformes, which are otherwise set to always display. I guess this template could be merged with Template:Taxonomy/Archosauria/skip, which has a very similar purpose, but that template also excludes Reptilia for some reason.
 * —  Trilletrollet  [ Talk &#124; Contribs ] 23:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: per Trilletrollet. YorkshireExpat (talk) 13:53, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Cohen crime family

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:11, 13 January 2024 (UTC) The "Cohen crime family" article was merged to Los Angeles crime family via Articles_for_deletion/Cohen_crime_family. All the entries on this template are a product of original research, for as indicated in the "Cohen crime family" AfD there is no basis for stating that such a "crime family" actually existed I attempted a speedy deletion but my CSD was removed by an IP. I believe speedy deletion is warranted per G8. "Pages dependent on a non-existent or deleted page" Coretheapple (talk) 15:14, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Cohen crime family

This template serves no useful purpose. It displays articles that relate to a "crime family" that did not actually exist. "Cohen crime family" and "List of Cohen crime family members" were merged to Los Angeles crime family for that same reason. See Articles for deletion/List of Cohen crime family members and Articles_for_deletion/Cohen_crime_family .I'd have asked for deletion of this template earlier but only just noticed it. Coretheapple (talk) 15:25, 6 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete per my nom. While it is true that Cohen crime family was merged and not deleted, the effect is the same, and we have a template that serves no useful purpose, displaying all the articles that relate to a nonexistent crime family. Coretheapple (talk) 15:30, 5 January 2024 (UTC) deleting to avoid duplication with nomination. Coretheapple (talk) 15:25, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * If you believe G8 should be expanded to cover navboxes without parent articles or pages dependent on redirects, you should make that case at WT:CSD. Additionally since you are the nom there is no need to make a bolded !vote in addition to your nomination. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:BDC2:D617:CAB6:BBF1 (talk) 17:14, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment I declined the speedy as the page was ineligible, in fact even had Cohen crime family been deleted it would still not be eligible as G8 does not cover navboxes without parent articles, a number of which exist. Personally this navbox does not strike me as particularly useful, nor for that matter do some of the associated ones but there may be reasons I am unaware of to retain, so I will leave that determination to other members of the community. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:BDC2:D617:CAB6:BBF1 (talk) 17:13, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * OF course Cohen crime family is the parent article. We have an elaborate template with dozens of articles identifying them on the basis of absolutely nothing that they are connected to a nonexistent "crime family." That is the height of absurdity. Coretheapple (talk) 18:39, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Useless navboxes are listed and deleted at TFD routinely, it is not clear what the issue is here. No harm in allowing community input. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:BDC2:D617:CAB6:BBF1 (talk) 21:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The nominator appears to be confused about G8, which is understandable. Cohen crime family, if it existed, would be the "Wikipedia article on the subject of the template" (from WP:NAVBOX), not the parent page of an unused subpage (see WP:G8). G8 is not for navboxes without a main article, which are often allowed to exist., please let the TFD run its course. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:39, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I've edited my nom per the comments. Coretheapple (talk) 15:25, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It's all good. Actually my explanation was a bit clumsy, I'll try to be more clear and precise in the future. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:3445:4FF8:D3CC:35 (talk) 21:52, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh that's no problem. Whether it's a speedy delete or a regular delete is really not a big deal anyway. Coretheapple (talk) 14:51, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:44, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:36, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Center for Students and Co-curricular Affairs

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:50, 12 January 2024 (UTC) Old unmaintained template with lots of non-notable red links. Sanglahi86 (talk) 13:32, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Center for Students and Co-curricular Affairs
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:44, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Script/Tangut

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:51, 12 January 2024 (UTC) Created in 2021‎ and is unused. Gonnym (talk) 11:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Script/Tangut
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:44, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Script/Sutton SignWriting
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:51, 12 January 2024 (UTC) Created in 2021‎ and is unused. Gonnym (talk) 11:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Script/Sutton SignWriting
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:44, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Script/Rohingya
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:51, 12 January 2024 (UTC) Created in 2020‎ and is unused. Gonnym (talk) 11:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Script/Rohingya
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:44, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Script/Siddhanta
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC) Created in 2013 and is unused. Gonnym (talk) 11:24, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Script/Siddhanta
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:44, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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Template:London bus corridor 15
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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC) The corridor itself is non notable on its own right and is only coincidental due to the pattern of bus route numbers using it, so is unlikely to be notable for its own article. One route no longer exists and another does not have its own article.Ajf773 (talk) 09:47, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * London bus corridor 15
 * Keep. Looks like a useful illustration and is used on more than one article. MRSC (talk) 09:56, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Just because thinks the title represents a non-notable topic is no reason to delete a diagram that shows the interrelation between the three bus routes. If this was an image file there would be absolutely no objection to keeping it. Useddenim (talk) 04:44, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Not admin topicon
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Not admin topicon with Template:Not an admin topicon.
 * Not admin topicon
 * Not an admin topicon

Both templates seem to have similar purpose and I prefer the image of the second template. Natsuikomin (talk) 06:16, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose I prefer the first template. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:24, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The reason I prefer the latter topicon is because the first topicon just looks like Wikipedia logo at first glimpse or glance. On the second topicon, we can clearly see the broom to indicate the visualisation of the admin role. Natsuikomin (talk) 04:04, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose per guidelines laid out at WP:TFD. Neither template is redundant: The transclusions show 103 uses of "not admin" and 148 of "not an admin" – close enough to almost be even. And none of the other guidelines appear to apply. Respectfully, I don't think it makes sense to delete a template because one user prefers the look of another. Just use the template you prefer. Amccann421 &#160; (talk)  04:15, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * As I said in my reason: Both templates seem to have similar purpose. I was talking about the phrases "not admin" and "not an admin". Please clarify if I missed an important point besides my second reason on image preference, Thanks. Natsuikomin (talk) 06:50, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose as per WP:TFD. The templates may be redundant, but neither is objectively "better designed" and I personally prefer the on that's currently on my page. The Midnite Wolf (talk) 05:18, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You both (@Amccann421 & @The Midnite Wolf) seemed to misunderstand my reason. And I don't know why you guys were too focused on the "and I prefer the image of the second template" part. Anyway, your choices should be respected. Thanks for commenting. Natsuikomin (talk) 06:45, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * comment – if the templates were merged it would be possible to add an image parameter that allowed uses to choose which one is displayed, There is probably a better way of coding it, but changing "Not admin topicon" to something like  would work. EdwardUK (talk) 14:31, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge and add image parameter as per EdwardUK. (I personally prefer Not admin topicon)  141 Pr  {contribs} 19:47, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose I prefer the one on my userpage, whichever one that is. I do not know.... <b style="font-family:Courier; color:black">Jake01756</b> <b style="font-family:Courier; color:purple">(talk)</b> <b style="font-family:Courier; color:purple">(contribs)</b> 07:14, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose the sooner the link to this discussion is not muddying up my userpage, the better. – ♠Vamí _IV†♠  02:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Holywell Town F.C.
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:55, 12 January 2024 (UTC) Navbox that links only two articles, the primary article (the football club) and the list of seasons, links to the individual seasons were removed after all the articles were deleted in 2014, the all other links are to sections within main article.. EdwardUK (talk) 03:47, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Holywell Town F.C.
 * Delete all links just link back to sections of Holywell Town F.C. article, and the seasons articles shouldn't ever be created, as they likely won't meet WP:GNG. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 15:32, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 14:34, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 14:35, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:44, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The purpose of such templates is to provide links to related articles, not to act as a table of contents at the bottom of the article. — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 16:01, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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