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Template:NBA Arena Statues

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was no consensus. There might be an argument here to merge the two related templates together, but that option did not gain any significant traction in and of itself during the discussion. Primefac (talk) 11:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC) This template seems to be for statues installed outside NBA arenas, regardless of whether or not the statues depict NBA players. I do not understand the criteria for inclusion, as there are probably hundreds of statues installed outside NBA arenas. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:02, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 * NBA Arena Statues


 * @Another Believer, after fairly extensive research, I believe this is the entire list of statues outside of NBA arenas. It includes every single statue, including non-NBA players. The criteria was all-inclusive, in other words any type of statue. It can be organized by category (Boxers, Announcers, etcetera) but not necessary given the size of the list. There are only 30 NBA arenas. Perhaps the list will grow over time but who knows if any new statues will be constructed. - BeFriendlyGoodSir (talk) 21:58, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep (creator of template) as it's a concise and valuable navbox. - BeFriendlyGoodSir (talk) 22:46, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per BeFriendlyGoodSir's attention and research on the topic. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:38, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment Then what do we do with Template:Statues of NBA figures? Both created by the same user and encompasses the nominated templates listing, but the only articles are of status of NBA figures at NBA arenas while the rest of the navbox is text with the only links to NBA players, but not articles of said statues. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:07, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Good point. That navbox is pretty wordy., are all of the statues on the arena navbox also on the Statues of... navbox? Randy Kryn (talk) 15:12, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Template:Statues of NBA figures includes only statues of NBA players at any location (non-NBA arenas included). Some obviously still need article creation but they do meet notability. It does not include statues of boxers, announcers, and so on at NBA arenas. The following are only on Template:NBA Arena Statues: Statue of Oscar De La Hoya, Statue of Wayne Gretzky, and Statue of Luc Robitaille. I should also note that Template:Statues of NBA figures is also the full list of statues as far as I can tell. - BeFriendlyGoodSir (talk) 18:32, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

I think Template:Statues of NBA figures should be kept and Template:NBA Arena Statues should be kept. Template:Statues of NBA figures might become oversized 500 years from now just like many other navboxes on Wikipedia. Template:NBA Arena Statues will never be oversized since it is capped at 30 arenas. - BeFriendlyGoodSir (talk) 18:59, 16 March 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 23:22, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep NBA Arena Statues and move Statues of NBA figures to userspace. The latter template for the most part is duplicating the nominated template with the links that already exist in the nominated template. The overlap is one thing, but the rest of the template is text and is just waiting for articles to be created. It isn't ready to be used in article space and has no distinct navigational purpose outside of NBA arena statues. Ultimately we are gonna need one template that encompasses links to articles of NBA statutes. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:48, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep: per what BeFriendly said - Master of Hedgehogs (converse) (hate that hedgehog!) 23:38, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The nominators concern was about numbers, in case hundreds of statues were notable enough for an article. That seems to be answered well by BeFriendly. It would be interesting to expand the template into a multi-tiered connected templates with NHL hockey areana statues, MLB baseball park statues, etc., added as full but connected templates. Would take a bit of work and coding but not out of the question to create such an interesting multi-tiered template. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:58, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge for now, but leaning to delete both. No corresponding article, and a substantial duplication of Statues of NBA figures which also has its problems, so to my mind probably more suited to a category.  -- wooden  superman ''' 12:05, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Actually, I've spotted a further problem. Statue of Wayne Gretzky and Statue of Luc Robitaille are included in this navbox because of their association with the NBA, but actually the statues are there because of their association with the NHL as it is a shared arena. -- wooden  superman  13:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
 * i.e. these are not always "NBA arenas". Crypto.com Arena is also a NHL arena, which is why these statues are there. -- wooden  superman  14:38, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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Template:French schools in Central and Eastern Europe

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The result of the discussion was keep. Primefac (talk) 13:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC) Very vertical navbox, only tangentially related to one another. No article on the subject. Would have thought better left for category navigation. -- wooden superman  11:43, 14 March 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 23:17, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * French schools in Central and Eastern Europe
 * Keep: They are all related to each other in that they are schools for French national children outside of France. The criteria for being listed is being are accredited by/affiliated with the Agency for French Education Abroad (AEFE affiliation = it is a school for French national children outside of France). These templates are divided by region because there are too many such schools for a single template. As for the article about the subject, it is "Agency for French Education Abroad". WhisperToMe (talk) 19:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: No commenting yet on the nomination, but the template can be reduced in size instead of a line per country, where most countries have only one link, to just do city or country and leave Germany and maybe Switzerland on their own line. Gonnym (talk) 06:54, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: There's nothing wrong with it. Roovinn (talk) 15:35, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * keep, seems no worse than the others in the category. Frietjes (talk) 15:26, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Fail WP:UKR

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The result of the discussion was delete. No prejudice against recreation as a navbox with suitable tracking, but consensus is against having a hatnote. Primefac (talk) 11:23, 17 April 2024 (UTC) Is this really the kind of thing we want at the top of an article? It looks strange in a style of a hatnote. It seems something like a tracking category would be more appropriate? DB 1729 talk 19:35, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Fail WP:UKR
 * Delete: per nom - Master of Hedgehogs (converse) (hate that hedgehog!) 23:40, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I don't understand why they want to delete the biography of an advisor to the president of Ukraine? 186.73.33.134 (talk) 07:34, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It's purpose is not for proposing a deletion. PoisonHK Sapiens dominabitur astris 10:41, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 13:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
 * This looks like it should be an ambox. Why should it be deleted were it converted to such? Izno (talk) 03:49, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Hindu term

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2024 April 17. Primefac (talk) 11:25, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Infobox_Hindu_term
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Template:2020 Romanian local elections

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2024 March 30. Izno (talk) 03:50, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * 2020_Romanian_local_elections
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Template:Non-free Philippines government

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2024 March 30. Izno (talk) 04:42, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Non-free_Philippines_government
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