Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Over There (Fringe)

Over There (Fringe)
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The result was: scheduled for Today's featured article/January 18, 2013 by BencherliteTalk 23:56, 8 January 2013‎ (UTC)



"Over There" is the two-part second-season finale of the Fox science fiction drama series Fringe. Both parts were written by Academy Award-winning screenwriter Akiva Goldsman, together with showrunners Jeff Pinkner and J. H. Wyman. Goldsman also served as director. Fringe's premise is based on the idea of two parallel universes, our own and the Other Side, which began to clash in 1985, after Dr. Walter Bishop (John Noble) stole the parallel universe version of his son, Peter, following his own son's death. The finale's narrative recounts what happens when Peter (Joshua Jackson) is taken back to the Other Side by his real father, dubbed "Walternate" (Noble). FBI agent Olivia Dunham (Anna Torv, pictured) and Walter lead a team of former Cortexiphan test subjects to retrieve him, after discovering that Peter is an unwitting part of Walternate's plans to bring about the destruction of our universe using an ancient doomsday device. Part one aired on May 13, 2010 to an estimated 5.99 million viewers, while part two broadcast a week later to 5.68 million. Both episodes received overwhelmingly positive reviews, with critics lauding the subtle differences between each universe. The finale was selected for multiple 2010 "best of television" lists.

2 points -- Jan 18 will be the series finale of the American science fiction series Fringe, so I thought I'd give it a good send-off (1 pt for date relevance). This article was promoted in July 2011 (1 pt). As far as I can tell, no television episode will have appeared within a month of this date. This is the first time I've nominated an article that I've significantly contributed to, though Caroline of Ansbach ran earlier this year.  Ruby  2010/  2013  18:54, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment agree with calculation at 2 points. Toolserver reports two deadlinks, though. BencherliteTalk 19:09, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I found three link issues, which are now all resolved (one citation was removed entirely as the corresponding sentence was backed up by another source). Thanks,  Ruby  2010/  2013  19:29, 18 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak oppose:We just ran a South Park episode; seems like another TV series is not a priority. Nothing personal, just seems like we have something more interesting out there that has more potential points.   Montanabw (talk) 20:46, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I understand your concerns. But just looking at the other potential TFAs in January (4 historical biographies, one sports incident, and this), I think this article would actually be adding some diversity.  Ruby  2010/  2013  21:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose: I have to agree with Montanabtw; I'd like to think there is a large enough variety of featured content left to make the front page without having two television episodes run within five weeks of each other. Perhaps not...--Chimino (talk) 09:03, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. Five weeks is plenty long enough between similar articles; it's well outside the time limit we penalise noms for. This one's in good shape (better than the last one, too) and is a lot less controversial (not that I ever thought cartoon poop was something anyone with half a brain should take offence at). We've also had a very dry run of articles lined up for January (politics, theology, military history, cricket "scandal" and that main page favourite, birds) so it's not like we're crying out for something more highbrow than science fiction. GRAPPLE   X  23:44, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Two Comments - One, to emphasize Ruby's point, the 19th is known as the final episode, period (the show barely eked out a 5th broadcast season due to fan response). Second, I would recommend a bit of trimming on the front page blurb as while the blurb as taken from the lead is fine in conjunction with the article, as a front page bit it focuses a bit too much on the fiction which takes a bit of time to explain for this episode. (As I've worked on this article, I won't comment otherwise on front page support). --M ASEM (t) 23:52, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've trimmed the blurb's plot and filled the gap with more on critical responses (it's difficult to cut more since, as you know, the finale's been set-up by the entire series' narrative, as I don't want to confuse casual readers). Thanks for commenting.  Ruby  2010/  2013  18:55, 8 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Oppose - Individual TV episodes seem over-represented. AlexTiefling (talk) 12:05, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - A month is plenty of time. Thought I'd !voted already... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:37, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Support: Plenty of diversity. Sceptre (talk) 18:40, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Update Just noting that as of today, no other television articles (or those relating to any form of pop culture) have been scheduled this month (dates up to Jan 14 have been booked).  Ruby  2010/  2013  19:02, 8 January 2013 (UTC)