Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Sonic: After the Sequel

Sonic: After the Sequel

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the TFAR nomination of the article below. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests). Please do not modify this page unless you are renominating the article at TFAR. For renominations, please add   to the top of the discussion and   at the bottom, then complete a new TFAR nom underneath.

The result was: scheduled for Today's featured article/October 29, 2014 by BencherliteTalk 10:21, 15 October 2014 (UTC)



Sonic: After the Sequel is a 2013 platform video game created by Brazilian student Felipe Daneluz (LakeFeperd). It is an unofficial work based on the Sonic the Hedgehog series' canon and set between the official games Sonic 2 and Sonic 3. Daneluz's second Sonic game, it follows Sonic: Before the Sequel, which was set after the original Sonic the Hedgehog. Like its predecessor, After the Sequel stars Sonic the Hedgehog and his sidekick Tails in a quest to retrieve Chaos Emeralds from Doctor Eggman. After the Sequel was inspired by Sonic Heroes and other games both inside and outside the Sonic series, and it was developed with Sonic Worlds, an engine that does not require expertise in computer programming. It was released as a free download for Windows personal computers. The game was very well received by video game journalists, who lauded its preservation of retro Sonic gameplay and its eclectic, 1990s-style soundtrack. The trilogy of Before the Sequel, After the Sequel, and their successor Sonic Chrono Adventure performed unusually well for fangames, having been downloaded 120,000 times by March 2014. Sega has not sent Daneluz a cease and desist order for the game.
 * Most recent similar article(s): Drakengard will be the most recent video game TFA. The most recent Sonic TFA will have been about three and a half years ago, and Sonic X isn't even through FAC yet.
 * Main editors: Tezero
 * Promoted: 2014
 * Reasons for nomination: I believe this would be the first fangame, first game developed in South America, and first game starring Sonic to appear as TFA (Shadow the Hedgehog was a TFA in 2011).
 * Support as nominator. Tezero (talk) 23:41, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Support as a very detailed and front-page worthy article, impressive work :)  Snuggums ( talk  /  edits ) 13:07, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Article has only a few sources. It relies heavily on an article by Kotaku (trashy blog that should not be considered reliable, even though WP:VG says it is in limited ways), and Red Bull. I don't think a news site published by an unhealthy energy drink should be considered reliable. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 20:10, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * , the article passed FAC as is very recently, with a complete source review. I agree that Kotaku is full of SJW muck in some areas, but per WP:VG/RS, new posts in 2010 and later are considered reliable, and this wasn't even in development before 2010. Also, RedBull Games was recently classed as reliable on the talk page of the same list. This is a subject that, while passing notability, doesn't have that much written about it. Tezero (talk) 20:35, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I have noticed for some time that WP:VG is waaay too lax with their sourcing standards. It's too easy to get a video game article to FA status. I'm going to propose the tightening of the rules to raise the quality of sources to use. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 23:10, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe so (although I disagree - it's just that video games aren't typically covered by university publications like, say, medical or language articles; they have their own field of experts), but for now the article has been determined very recently to fit the FA criteria. I urge coordinators reading this discussion to disregard this objection and, if Harizotoh9 proposes tightening the rules for video game sourcing, chiming in with whatever they feel there. Tezero (talk) 23:23, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Agreed with Tezero. I have a similar problem with progressive rock musicians, who are only generally covered by obscure websites with bloggers that are part of a staff. They are reliable in context, but may appear less so to the unfamiliar. If Harizotoh9 wishes to adjust the standard, he can do so... but until then, this meets the standard and I believe this oppose should be taken with a grain of salt. -  Floydian  τ ¢  17:52, 3 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Support. High quality article. Promoted to FA in 2014. Duly cited throughout. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:50, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Support. Interesting read. To me, the most interesting moment in the article was when we realize that this is a fan-produced and not a commercially produced game, and especially when we learn that "Sega has not sent a cease and desist order or other indication of disapproval" to the fan creator. Consider adding this to your blurb. Prhartcom (talk) 04:29, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It's already mentioned that it's a fangame, but I've added the other part. Thank you! Tezero (talk) 05:14, 29 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Scheduling for 28th October. Wider issues about sourcing should be taken elsewhere if appropriate. BencherliteTalk 10:21, 15 October 2014 (UTC)