Wikipedia:Translation/Order of Free Gardeners

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I do not know sufficient about the templates in the French version for citations, to reproduce them in the English version. Somebody who understands more about this could tidy this up a lot.

I think that the word "corporation" can be used in English for this, but it seems strange to me, and perhaps "guild" is better?
 * I think "guild" is correct. Christophe Dioux

This sounds horrible. Must be something better.
 * Sorry that I can't help. Christophe Dioux

Seems the right sense, but perhaps is not quite correct.
 * It is the right sense. Christophe Dioux

I don't have a good way of translating s'inscrire here. Perhaps the modern "impacted on"?
 * I suggest "These disappearances were part of a very much more vast sociological movement", but I'm not sure it is correct in english? Christophe Dioux

"laisser supposer" here, I just leave as "suggest"
 * perfect Christophe Dioux

I have seen "grips" used as the translation in masonic articles, but it refers to handshakes, I think. Not sure which is preferable.
 * "Signs, Grips and Words" in english-speaking freemasonry, I guess. Christophe Dioux

Best I could do at using gardening vocabulary
 * "bouturer"="propagate by cuttings", according to my Collins-Robert Dictionary. The idea is to cut and distroy the vices, but to propagate by cuttings the virtues. Christophe Dioux

I translated operative = active, but perhaps it means that the lodge was dominated by workers, rather than aristocrats?
 * That's it: "operative lodges" were those who remained dominated by the actual grassroot gardeners, while the others, namely "speculatives" (one would say "philosophical" nowadays) were dominated by the aristocrats.Christophe Dioux


 * Right. The first sentence is to say that several freegardeners joined freemasonry, but there is no ancient record of the contrary (freemasons joining freegardeners).Christophe Dioux


 * Well, here, "neuf" is "nine". There were nine members. Christophe Dioux

Judge Nutmeg 04:07, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, Judge. --Christophe Dioux 14:13, 28 April 2007 (UTC)