Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2012 April 11

= April 11 =

Review of User:Marilyn Nix/sandbox
Lots of problems — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marilyn Nix (talk • contribs) 01:10, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Pictogram voting comment.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about the Articles for creation process. Please consider asking this question at the Help desk. - This is where editors will try to answer any question regarding how to use Wikipedia. Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=help&fulltext=Search searching Wikipedia] for any help related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps.  B  music  ian  01:13, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I am catching on! Marilyn Nix (talk) 18:28, 16 April 2012 (UTC)marilyn

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/David Schiff
I am at wit's trying to submit this article on David Schiff. I have linked to articles in the New York tzimes, the Atlantic Monthly, the Times Literary Supplement, the Nation, the Grove Dictionary of Music, etc., etc., etc. and I think I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is a notable person. Could you PLEASE approve this article or tell me what I need to do. It was been a week and I don't have the time to spend on this. PLEASE!Mjburf (talk) 04:36, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The big problem is that all reference you provided name him either by bypassing or are written about him or are primary/secondary sources (mean: somehow connected, publisher, etc.). mabdul 14:19, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand these critiques. Could you please explain:

1) Name him either by bypassing Do you mean don't highlight him enough?

2) Are written about him This seems to contradict #1.

3) Are primary/secondary sources This is not true. I have included articles written by him to establish him as an author, reviews of his books, a dictionary entry.

I don't understand why it so difficult to state affirmatively what I need to add to this article to make it "reliable." There are many, many, many Wikipedia articles much less documented than mine on Schiff. I'm only asking you to be reasonable about including someone clearly meriting inclusion in Wikipedia. What other types of "reliable sources" could one conceivably include? I am literally getting completely conflicting advice by every Wikipedia help person I talk to and I wish you would work with me and give me concrete guidance. I am not an idiot so this should not be so hard. If the issue is quantity of citations, I can keep adding and adding and adding. But if the issue is quality, I have no clue what is more reliable than a dictionary, the New York Times, Harper's, etc.Please read the article, look carefully at the citations and let me know what is wrong because your criticisms are not matching up with the content of the article.Mjburf (talk) 15:10, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I have accepted the article on the strength of the two book reviews. Congratulations :) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 17:45, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, accepted pending some housekeeping... Nolelover Talk·Contribs 17:47, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Nolelover <b style="color:Gold;">Talk</b>·<b style="color:Gold;">Contribs</b> 18:03, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/7-Keto
With regards to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/7-Keto I have a question:

I drafted my page in Microsoft Word, and then I used the Word-to-Wiki instructions to convert the word text to HTML and then into MediaWiki.

It seemed to work very well, except for the references. In my draft, the references were all noted via superscript letters in the text, corresponding to the reference list at the end. However, those didn't translate into MediaWiki and I immediately received feedback that there were no in-text references.

Here's part 1 of my question: Do I need to individually convert all of the superscripts into references using the JavaScript tool? (There are hundreds of in-text references so I want to make sure this is correct before proceeding -- I already did two of them. Is there any way to automate this process? Naming the references didn't work; I wasn't able to select a reference that I had previously named.) I also didn't see where the two I did ended up -- they didn't automatically show up in the references section.

Part 2 of my question: In addition to in-text references, I have many other sources (clinical trials, etc.) that aren't specifically mentioned in-text. Where and how do I include those? Right now they are just copied in via MediaWiki but I'm not sure if that's the right formatting. Thank you!

Wordcouture (talk) 04:36, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Related to the style of the page: no, you don't have to use the JavaScript tool! You can move the reference to the correct position, and place around them. Please remove also the big, bolding, font increasing, etc. <b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 14:22, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Antha (Kannada Film)
hai it is the film of 1980 i am searching the reference in net (anaamikamathu (talk) 04:46, 9 April 2012 (UTC))
 * Declined, for notability reasons. <b style="color:FireBrick;">Nolelover</b> <b style="color:Gold;">Talk</b>·<b style="color:Gold;">Contribs</b> 22:34, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

this film is 1980 film and available data support is very rare and due to rare data we cannot support the internet based links during 1980 news mainly for local language films will be local newspaper and they are not published in net what to do (anaamikamathu (talk) 07:52, 11 April 2012 (UTC))
 * It's perfectly fine to use non-internet sources. Please just add enough info that anyone could find it if they tried (so author, article title, publisher, newspaper/magazine name, etc.). <b style="color:FireBrick;">Nolelover</b> <b style="color:Gold;">Talk</b>·<b style="color:Gold;">Contribs</b> 17:51, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sophie Smith
Hi,

I am having trouble correctly citing sources in the above draft for submission.

The links are provided in the text and reference list but will not be accepted.

Can someone please advise how to do this? I've followed the inline citation instructions to the best of my ability but cannot make it work.

Best, Madeline Missmjsmith (talk) 10:38, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I cleaned the submission, but you didn't provided any new references. The reviewer declined your submission not because of inline references (that was only an additional fact), but mostly because they had some major issues:

Sources have issues, the third is a blog. The second seems overstated as a singular event. The fourth is not about her finish, it is prior to the actual event. Issues of neutrality and prose that overstates notability. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 15:41, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * That was the additional comment! <b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 14:32, 11 April 2012 (UTC)