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= March 17 =

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Plato Chen
I dont understand why my article was not published. This person is real!!! And he even is considered as a tertiary icon in China. Cmon what the hell, i cant even believe someone made a page about him yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123abc95 (talk • contribs) 03:48, 11 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I believe you, but not everyone else that reads the Wiki may. All articles need to be backed by reliable, independent sources that discuss the subject in detail.  Find some reliable, independent articles that talk about him, and reference them.   :- ) DCS  07:09, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

But what the Hell? The book is real!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123abc95 (talk • contribs) 08:47, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The book may be real, but what proof do we have? I'm not trying to imply that you are lying at all, but we have to be very cold-hearted here at Wikipedia...we can't just take someone's word for it.  Nolelover   Talk · Contribs  23:24, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm drawing a blank on this guy. Do you have Pinyin or Mandarin name?   :- ) DCS  16:47, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

european rugby league
oh, hi, i was just wondering if you could make a european rugby league article from brock — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.75.43 (talk) 07:18, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Pictogram voting comment.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about the Articles for creation process. Please consider asking this question at the Help desk. - This is where editors will try to answer any question regarding how to use Wikipedia. Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=help&fulltext=Search searching Wikipedia] for any help related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps.  B  music  ian  11:42, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Try Requested articles, where you can submit your request (if you are unable to write the article yourself). Sionk (talk) 12:53, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dr. CM Prasad
As per the suggestions changes have been made to the article. Could you please suggest if the article is ready for submission?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.83.253 (talk) 11:06, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, the article is getting there, if you submit it for AfC, it might have a chance of getting through. However, to improve your chances, I would suggest these changes: give more details about the academic work he has done, and what significance they hold; give short details about how prestigious each award is (usually must be at a national or international level). You also said he was "elected to the status of a Distinguished Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association(DFAPA)", can you give in-line citation to back that up? Furthermore, rather than listing all the references at the end (what we called general references, try to incorporate them into the article (An inline citation, it means any citation added close to the material it supports, for example after the sentence or paragraph, normally in the form of a footnote.). If you are unsure, please check WP:PROF to see what editors are looking for when they accept (or decline); and also WP:CITE for citation guidelines. Thanks and good luck!  Kinkreet ~&#9829;moshi moshi&#9829;~ 12:36, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Grand Theft Auto Gangs and Mafias
Well, GTA IV gangs and mafias havent been covered thats why Im doing it.. The only thing that has been covered is the GTA iv Characters, Big difference! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evan12345678910 (talk • contribs) 11:13, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Your submission lacks, in its entirety, any reliable third-party sources. We will not accept unsourced submissions or any submission relying on sources that are not reliable. Thank you. B  music  ian  11:41, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Saj-nicole A. Joni
My [articles for creation/Saj-nicole A. Joni] was recently declined for inadequate references, but there are no notations as to what needs to be addressed. I have read all of the manuals, and I would very much appreciate assistance on what I need to correct.

Thank you in advance for your help. Lena Goodwin (talk) 14:27, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Your article only has 2 reliable references(#1 and #2) listed about your subject. You actually have many, but they are inserted as external links.  I have converted your Wellesley College link into a citation.  If you can do that with the remaining externals, I think you may have an article.  I know the way citations are done can be confusing, see if WP:CITE is any help?   Thanks for your work.   :- ) DCS  15:23, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Women&
My submitted article has been reviewed. Unfortunately the reviewers comments are meaningless. They leave me with no clue as to how to modify the article to make it acceptable. To quote 'While the topic is probably sufficiently notable, more work has to be done on this article to bring it up to scratch'. OK fine I can accept that, nut what on earth do they mean by 'more work'? I spent a lifetime as an academic, a researcher with many, many published and reviewed articles in international academically reviewed journals. Reviews need to say WHAT is needed, I canot read the reviewers mind.

The article was based on data collected first hand and there is no-one else who has all this data. I have enough information on this subject to write a very long book so I am more than happy to revise the copy. LynnashLynnash (talk) 14:34, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Lynnash! I understand your frustration, the reviewer should have been more clear. However, Wikipedia is not a platform to house primary research (WP:FORUM) and so must be cited to reliable and independent sources (WP:CITE). It might be notable, but the notability needs to displayed to other people reading the Wikipedia also. If you can find some references that are notable in themselves (such as a prominent newspaper or magazine), then please use in-line citation (WP:CITE) to reference. Good luck!  Kinkreet ~&#9829;moshi moshi&#9829;~ 15:27, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Vaghy String Quartet
I have a record cover that I'd like to reference. There is a summery/description of the quartet on the back, and I'm wondering what I would use to cite it. Should I use article format, as it does give an author? AlexGraal (talk) 14:48, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I've deleted one of the general references because it is just a repeat of the in-line citation. As to the record cover, is it produced from a notable record label? I wouldn't use articles, as that implies either journal articles or newspaper article. There isn't really a format for citing record descriptions, but if it is notable, then I would use the format here:
 *  Kinkreet ~&#9829;moshi moshi&#9829;~ 15:20, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, it is a very notable record label. Thank you very much :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexGraal (talk • contribs) 15:33, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Unsure of the copyright license for a picture
I want to upload the official logo of IDEAS 2012 from this site: http://www.ideaspakistan.gov.pk/ideaslogo2012.htm

To the wikipedia page International Defence Exhibition and Seminar.

The source of the picture infers that the picture is free for use: the website actually gives you an option to download the logo. However other than that I can't see any explicit permission that we can use the picture after downloading. Nor do I know what the License would be.

What steps should I take, as i believe its the most appropriate picture availiable.

Thanks --MMChampion (talk) 15:49, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, you would be able to use it. Even if it is copyrighted, you are allowed to use it under Fair use. But before doing so, please ensure there are no other free alternatives. For more information, please see Logos and WP:NFCC. The template I'd recommend is . Good luck!  Kinkreet ~&#9829;moshi moshi&#9829;~ 16:19, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Another step is to go to File Upload Wizard and follow the wizard. Click on the "This is a copyrighted, non-free work, but I believe it is Fair Use." option - your image is a business/organization logo, so free alternatives probably don't exist.  Nolelover   Talk · Contribs  16:26, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Larry forgione
Hi,

My submission was rejected because it said it violated copywrite from this page:

http://www.mohegansun.com/sitelet/winefest/personalities/larry-forgione.html

I actually personally work for Larry Forgione and would like to argue that the page in question is not a copywrite material as it contains Larry Forgione's personal bio that he sends out to festivals. Therefore, it is the property of Larry Forgione and NOT the Mohegan Sun WineFest. I can alter his bio wording slightly but obviously the historical events and accomplishments are going to be exactly the same. Please advise, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cpallas (talk • contribs) 15:57, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but when I scroll down to the bottom of the page I see this: "© 2012 Sun Winefest". As far as we are concerned, that's copyrighted material and unless Sun Winefest released to anyone under the CC-BY-SA License (which I doubt they'll do) we can't use it. Obviously you can still use that site as a source, but no, you can't copy it wholesale (or even in part/structure) - it must be completely rewritten. :(  Nolelover   Talk · Contribs  16:23, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Since you work for Larry Lorgione, you can ask him (or whoever responsible) to grant permission for this use. Use this format while doing so. Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries.  Kinkreet ~&#9829;moshi moshi&#9829;~ 16:32, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Harris Academy Bromley
Hello,

I am writing a new article about "Harris Academy Bromley" and do not understand what I do wrong. It is a school which is part of a the "Harris federation" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris_Federation). I looked at all the other school pages on Wikipedia from this Harris Federation and I based the structure of my article on the other pages of these other Harris Federation schools (pages accepted by Wikipedia). Since the other pages have been accepted by Wikipedia, I do not understand why my article is not reliable or with the wrong references...

Please help !!

Many thanks in advance for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyblexy (talk • contribs) 19:06, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, seeing how you have already created the article yourself there isn't much we can do here.  Nolelover   Talk · Contribs  20:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mark A. Ashworth
Dear Wiki,

How do I submit a photo to be attached to the article I previously submitted, that is now under review.

Thank you.

Josh Witter--Joshwitter (talk) 19:36, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Click here and follow the instructions WP:UPLOAD. Ensure your image complies with the requirements as listed in WP:IRELEV, and also make sure it does not infringe on copyright. Name it appropriately. After that use the format NAME OF YOUR IMAGE to add the image to the article. Good luck  Kinkreet ~&#9829;moshi moshi&#9829;~ 21:35, 17 March 2012 (UTC)