Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2012 May 22

= May 22 =

Qualian Technologies Private Limited
Qualian Technologies Private Limited involved in Outsourced Development Activities Of the US customers headquaters in Chennai,India.And Also involved in Enterprise Solutions Implementation for Small and Medium scale Industries in India.Qualian is Certified Partner of Open Bravo,Developing Industry specific ERP solutions based on Open Bravo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roopa Raj (talk • contribs) 06:50, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I have moved your submission to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Qualian Technologies Private Limited. It has no references and needs some reliable secondary sources to establish the company's notability. As it stood it would have been eligible for speedy deletion. Huon (talk) 10:41, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Guy Benveniste
I have provided 13 references you do not want me to add as references the many many published reviews of his work that appeared in professional journals I hope!Nadialebon (talk) 07:16, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Firstly, the references should be turned into true inline references by using the tags. Secondly, all but two of the references are primary sources; reviews of his work published in professional journals would indeed be highly preferable to Benveniste's own books and articles. (References 12 and 13 also seem to be the same, except one is the Chinese translation? Why not use the English version twice?) Huon (talk) 10:41, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

About my SAMYG article
i don't know what to remove/add on my Article to make it thru the Wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/SamYG been denied 4x. Please Help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdnghtluv (talk • contribs) 08:09, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The article needs reliable secondary sources to allow readers to verify its content and to establish the subject's notability. Currently the sources do not support much of the article's content, at least one of them (the blog) is clearly not reliable, and furthermore the article's tone is anything but encyclopedic ("umm..."?). Huon (talk) 10:41, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Why can't I see Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/BackTweets in the Submissions list?
Hi,

I created Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/BackTweets on May 20, 2012, yet I can't find it in any of the bot's lists for articles submitted/ reviewed/ rejected...

Why is this? Please help!

Thanks, Sarah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rezoff (talk • contribs) 10:12, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I have added a submission template to the article; it should be added to the list of pending reviews as soon as the bot updating the list catches up. You might want to re-check the references; one pointed to an image on the Wikimedia Commons that has since been deleted as a copyright violation. Huon (talk) 10:41, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/H. J. High Construction
I am writing an article about H. J. High Construction. I want first of all to apologize to Excirial (I believe he's the one who reviewed my article) if I seemed pushy about getting responses to my question. I am new to Wikipedia and I had no idea what kind of backlog editors face in reviewing articles. Unfortunately, I am one of the least tech-savvy people on the planet and I find Wikipedia very confusing and hard to manage (yep, I'm that technically incompetent). I am currently revising my article according to the editor's instructions, including formatting my references in an acceptable style (using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Referencing_for_beginners_with_citation_templates). I have another question though:

Is there some kind of template for the boilerplate information I see on other construction companies articles? Specifically, the "Contents" box and the box that includes information like the TYPE of company; INDUSTRY; FOUNDED; HEADQUARTERS; KEY PEOPLE; SERVICES: EMPLOYEES and WEBSITE? I imagine the answer is quite simple but, being the techno idiot I am, I am unable to find it. I would appreciate your showing me how to create these templates so I can finish my article and resubmit it.

Thank you very much for your help and (in my case) patience.

Dan McDonald D102653A (talk) 12:52, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The template used by the construction company articles I just had a look at is Infobox company. See this example of the template in use and the parameters it takes; Hoar Construction shows the finished result. If in doubt, you can leave most of the parameters empty. The preview is a good tool to check if what you wrote really has the effect you want it to have; templates can be tricky, and it's easy to accidentally break one so that the entire article becomes unreadable. Huon (talk) 13:42, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Huon, for showing me where to get the infotemplate. Now I have a question about references. I am reformatting my references using (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Referencing_for_beginners_with_citation_templates). This format requires the inclusion of the reference's date of publication and the page numbers. However, several of my references come from online articles that do not provide dates and page numbers. What should I do? Thank you, Dan McD  — Preceding unsigned comment added by D102653A (talk • contribs) 15:37, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * You can omit most of the parameters; page numbers and publication dates are optional. Websites of course do not need or have page numbers, though some give publication dates (online editions of newspapers often do, for example). Please note that the tags are supposed to be in the article proper, right after the statement for which the reference is meant. They will produce the standard Wikipedia notes[1] (this one is just a fake), and the reflist template in the references section will then automatically display the list of references to be linked from the note. I have moved the reflist below the references so you can see what it produces. Huon (talk) 18:25, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Buttignol, Rudy
Hello, I have submitted an article Buttignol, Rudy. This message came up at the beginning of the article and I don't know what it means and what to do. I am afraid of losing all of my hard work. MB — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbuttignol (talk • contribs) 17:35, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, RE: Buttignol, Rudy and the message. Here it is: "Subject of my article is... This sandbox is in the Wikipedia talk namespace. Either move this page into your userspace, or remove the User sandbox template."

What does this mean and what do I do. I am afraid of losing my work. MB M. Buttignol 17:41, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * That article had a User sandbox template, which is supposed to denote sandboxes and test pages in user space. It was copied to the article draft from your personal sandbox at User:Mbuttignol/sandbox. I have removed it, along with the "Subject of my article is..." line that didn't seem to belong either. Huon (talk) 18:25, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/H. J. High Construction
It's me again with more questions .... 1. A number of the references in my article cannot be linked back to a website or a publication. For example, one of my references is a proclamation from the city of Orlando—I have a copy of the proclamation but ... how would I submit it to Wikipedia so that you could verify it? I also use a magazine's Book of Lists as a reference, but I can't send you the book. How should I proceed?

2. I want to revise my article using my sandbox. How do I save my revisions on the sandbox, so I can quit the page and then come back later and continue editing?

Thank you,

Dan McD — Preceding unsigned comment added by D102653A (talk • contribs) 17:56, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Let's answer these in the opposite order: You can edit your sandbox in just the same way as every other page; it has not yet been created. You can save your edits to that sandbox exactly as you would save the edits to any other page, including this one. Note that the sandbox carries a hatnote generated by the user sandbox template; if you copy the draft back to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/H. J. High Construction, don't carry that hatnote along, or it will produce an error message (see question immediately above).
 * Regarding the references: Books and magazines need not be available online to serve as references. You can provide author, title, publisher and publication date, the ISBN or ISSN, and for magazines the issue (if you don't know all of that, provide as much as you can). For example, Google Books provides some of that information for the 2010 Book of Lists, though it apparently does not have the 2012 Book of Lists. Similarly, I would expect the proclamation has been published somewhere. If you didn't already have a copy of that proclamation, what information would you need to find it? That's what you should provide the readers with. Some of Orlando's proclamations are apparently hosted on their website; I found one about the Vietnamese New Year, but not the one about H. J. High Construction Company Day. If some independent news source mentions that proclamation, that would be even better than the proclamation itself. If all else fails, you can provide a link to the company's web page about the proclamation, but that's a primary source, and unless someone else has taken note of the proclamation, it will not count towards the company's notability. Huon (talk) 18:56, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Buenos Aires Rojo Sangre
Last time this AFC was declined it was with the note: "This submission's references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability—see the general guideline on notability and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia."

'''How do I prove this? And where do I submit proof of notability?'''

I feel it should be included in an encyclopedia beacuse of the mere fact that filmmakers, movielovers and people working with genre film all around the world would want to be able to look up and reference this festival. Why? Because this festival is one of the important ones focusing on indpendent genre film, it takes submissions from all around the world and gives out awards from an industry jury. The festival is also accredited and recognized by the Argentine National Film Board (FIAPF member INCAA.gov.ar) as a festival of importance.

I could always add more external links and citations, but after having this AFC rejected 3 times I fear this alone wouldn´t help.

Thank you for any light you can shed on this subject!

Sincerely, Pia Huss

Pia Huss (talk) 20:05, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Your "proof" is the kind of thing you've just said, and should be stated in the article itself and backed up by reliable sources. Looking at your submission I do think you've done this by linking to coverage in a number secondary sources. It's unusual to put them as external links instead of references (the external links section is to give the reader "further reading" not really a place for sources) but in my opinion that's no reason to decline the submission. joe&bull;roet&bull;c 20:55, 22 May 2012 (UTC)