Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2012 May 23

= May 23 =

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Lisette Lagnado
Hi folks, I've tried to create an article but someone said it doesn't have "reliable sources". I put three sources as References that I really think are very reliable. Aren't they? If not, why not? thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.197.141 (talk) 02:17, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * They seem to be primary sources, websites of organizations with which Lagnado is affiliated, not sources independent of the subject. I'd say the problem is not so much that the sources are unreliable but that primary sources cannot establish notability; secondary sources (such as newspaper articles or other sources not affiliated with Lagnado) are required. The UOL interview is probably the best in that regard, but more would be better. Huon (talk) 02:50, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Tsotne Mirtskhulava
Tsotne Mirtskhulava (.Georgian: ცოტნე მირცხულავა; July 25 1920 ) was  Georgian and Soviet scientist hydrotechnician,hydroreclamation expert. The foreign member of the Russian Academy of Agrarian Sciences (1997), the member of the     USSR Academy of Agrarian Sciences  (1973), the full member (with 1993) the Georgian academy of Sciences, the Doctor of Engineering (1961), the professor (1964).He is often referred by the Russian version of his name,Tsotne evgenievich Mirtskhulava(Цотне Евгеньевич Мирцхулава) The contents to [clean] 1 Biography 2 Scientific activity 3 Awards and awards 4 References to [govern] the Biography

Was born on July 25, 1920 in the city of Poti(Georgia) in a family of employees. Finished construction faculty of the Georgian industrial institute (The Georgian polytechnical institute — nowadays the Georgian technical university) and upon termination of institute worked in oil Georgian state Compani " Gruzneft " where passed a way from the foreman to the Vice President of Georgian Oil Company. In 1953 defended the master's dissertation and in 1954 it was invited to work in the Georgian scientifically research institute of land improvement and a water management (nowadays institute of a water management and engineering ecology of academy of Sciences of Georgia) the senior research associate. In 1960 defended the doctoral dissertation, and in 1968 he headed institute. Since 1953 taught at the Georgian polytechnical institute (nowadays the Georgian technical university). For many years there was the expert of the United Nations on fight against floods and the associate editor of the magazine «A land improvement and a water management» (Moscow). Died on March 17, 2010 it is buried in Tbilisi.

Some of main works of : 1. Erosion chanels and assessment of their stability, "Kolos", 1967, p 180 2. Injhenernie metodi raschota I prognoza vodnoi erozii (Engineering methods of water erosion design and forecast), M "Kolos" 1974, p. 272 3. Reliability of hydro-reclamation structures. Moscow, "Kolos", 1974, p. 272 4. Reliability of large channels, M. "Kolos", 1981, p. 318 5. Reliability of drainage systems, M. "Agropromizdat", 1985, p. 236 6. Osnovi phiziki mekhaniki erozii rusei (Principles of Physicas and mechanics of bed erosion) L. "Gidrometeoizdat", 1988, p. 304 7. Reliability of hydro-reclamation installations, A.A. Balkema Publishers, Brookfield, p. 297, Roterdam 8. Basic Physics and Mechanics of Channel Erosion. Netherlands. Delft, 1990, p. 261, Netherlands 9. Ecological safety Methodology of reliability estimation of water development projects, Tbilisi, 1993, p. 472 10. Ecological Safety, Tbilisi, 1992, p. 436 11. Risk How to Risk Wisely (Examples with Solutions), Tbilisi, 1998, p. 206 12. Soil Erosion (Mechanism Prognos), Tbilisi, Academy of Sciences, 2000, p. 454 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.134.212.175 (talk) 05:59, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

References added but still declined
Dear Wikipedia team,

I am new to the wikipedia experience and am in the process of creating my first article. My article regarding the City Sikhs Network was created and was declined originally because I wrote it in the wrong style! I updated the style so its in the encyclopedic sytyle (to the best of my ability) and have added much more referencing showing secondary sources to support any comments. I think from what I can see the article is still under review but is there anything else that the article needs? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manojwaheguru (talk • contribs) 07:17, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The problem is that the references you have used generally have nothing to do with the subject of the article. In the list of directors at the bottom, for instance, you give over 20 references for the list. But in looking through those references, most are nothing more than some random news article in which that person's name was dropped, typically without any mention of City Sikhs whatsoever. You need to confine yourself to references that actually pertain to the article at hand. If you want to reference that Jasvir Singh is a director of City Sikhs, only use references that say precisely that. Do not point me to three random videos of Singh talking about everything else he does. The reviewers are not going to approve an article if they cannot verify its contents, and that is difficult when over half the references never mention the article's actual subject. Someguy1221 (talk) 09:21, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Equal Pay Day
Is it possible to just translate the German entry for Equal Pay Day for an American Entry? Thanks, kateFileunderk (talk) 15:34, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The German article seems rather Germany-specific, and more significantly, it seems to be based on primary sources. While you could translate it, you would have to find reliable secondary sources to back up the content. It's probably easier to write the article from scratch based on those sources than to translate and source the German one. Huon (talk) 16:08, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Astroguard
Hello,

My article is rejected because of unreliable sources.

I checked other companies' wikipidedia page to better understand my mistake. For instance, Chint's page' sources name only their own website.And their article is on line. The same for Addidas, most of their sources are websites links (which, by the way, no longer work.

My page sources are the official website, the secondary websites and all the documents certifying the company.

I dont understand why my sources are rejected whereas they are all on internet.

Could you give me, please, some advice so that my sources can be approved?

American Development (talk) 16:31, 23 May 2012 (UTC) American

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/AstroGuard


 * Other articles with insufficient sources exist, but that's not a reason to create another one. Each article has to stand on its own merits. What you need are reliable secondary sources, that is, sources not affiliated with the subject (ruling out the company's website) known for fact-checking and accuracy. You might be able to find news pieces about the company, maybe even a scholarly article on the new fabric they developed. For comparison, Adidas has among its references various books by reputable publishers and articles by Deutsche Welle (though the link is indeed broken), Der Spiegel, India Times and the New York Times. Huon (talk) 18:32, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bruno Chikly
Hi I resubmitted the page "Bruno Chikly" has it been rejected a 2nd time or we are still waiting for a reviewer for this page, I am not clear?

Thanks,

Bruno C — Preceding unsigned comment added by BChikly (talk • contribs) 19:08, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * It's still awaiting a review, but currently the first three paragraphs are copied almost verbatim from this website, apparently a copyright violation. I also saw that the vast majority of references are primary sources (for example the articles written by Chikly or the websites of organizations he's affiliated with). Wikipedia requires secondary sources: Sources independent of Chikly discussing him or his work. You may also want to have a look about Wikipedia's guideline on autobiographies: Writing about yourself is strongly discouraged. Huon (talk) 19:35, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Nagged to Ed
I have submitted an article titled "Nagged to Ed". I finished it and pressed the save button, and submitted it for review. I submitted it weeks ago, and no word on whether it got approved or not. So, can I find out what happened to it? Thanks. StaleCupcakes (talk) 20:11, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * There were two problems: Firstly, your article is in the wrong namespace and should be moved to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Nagged to Ed. I'll do the move once the talk page has been deleted to make room. Secondly, you hadn't added the submission template; I have done so. Since there is a severe backlog, a review may take some time even when the technical problems have been resolved. Huon (talk) 20:33, 23 May 2012 (UTC)