Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2012 May 8

= May 8 =

Review of Articles for creation/Jon Charles Altman
Pol430 talk to me 20:27, 8 May 2012 (UTC) Where's everything I've written. My article has been reduced down to a single sentence. Elisabeth Yarbakhsh (talk) 01:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * You also posted to Help desk where it has been answered. The ref tags were misformatted. It has been fixed. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:58, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Nullspeeds in General Relativity
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.42.57.208 (talk)
 * err, no personal attacks or ranting please. You have been dealt with in a civil manner, please remain civil with others. Pol430 talk to me 20:31, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sam Kwang Elementary
Hi, My school asked me to create a page for their Elementary School

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sam Kwang Elementary

My article was denied. I will attempt to fix the referencing. I was wondering if the school website would be enough to validate it. I'm not exactly certain what other sources I need to supply.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sorry to bother you with my inexperience. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessecpence (talk • contribs) 06:14, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No, that would not be a good source. I also don't recommened you writing this article per reasons listed here. Reply if you have any questions. Thanks, Nathan2055talk 20:34, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Elementary schools are almost never considered notable, unless they pass the general notability guideline (it does not appear that your school does). If a submission is not notable, it cannot be accepted. See WP:VRS for more info on how notability is assessed. Pol430 talk to me 20:36, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Revel consulting
To whom this may concern,

I desperately need some advice. I am currently a student at the University of Washington, and as part of a class project we need to create a Wikipedia page for a local business. I have been trying to make a Wikipedia entry for Revel Consulting for about 3 months now. I constantly change the copy, formatting, references, and everything in between, yet my submissions are continuously denied. I have even tried modeling my entry after similar companies, despite their extremely simplistic and minamilastic provided information (for example Caiman_Consulting & Slalom_Consulting). I am truly stuck and I could really utilize more specific advice on how to get my entry approved; it has been denied and re-denied for a vast array of reasons, although it appears the same as already-existing pages. Please shed some advice, as my grade in my class depends on it, and the project's due date is rapidly approaching.

Thank you very much for your time and help,

Jason May jasonmay2@gmail.com Mynameisjmay33 (talk) 22:15, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Local businesses are awkward to create as articles as it's very easy for the finished page to end up looking like an advertisement - something that the business itself (or its owners) might have written to only say good things about their company or its products. It's also not easy to show that something that only exists locally is important enough to have an article in an encyclopaedia read worldwide. Many local companies aren't important enough to be in Wikipedia at all.
 * The only way to try to write something like this is to look at this as if you knew nothing about the business, other than name, location and the most basic identifiers and were yourself trying to find the info in order to explain the topic. What can you find out that's reliable? Maybe there was an article about them in a newspaper, maybe they were mentioned in a book or in broadcast media. Go search online, find what reliable and neutral sources are saying about your intended subject, be prepared to abandon your topic as non-notable if they have nothing good or bad to say at all. If you find sources, summarise their information and site where you found the information. Don't insert your own personal observations, whether fact or opinion. Don't write a page just to say "I think XYZ company is so great" (or so awful); the former looks like an ad, the latter lacks neutrality.
 * Certainly there are existing pages which are problematic, we tend to tag them with advertisement to ask they be cleaned up or sometimes even delete them. That's no reason to create more pages which are merely cheerleading or promoting a firm instead of taking a neutral, objective and non first-person look at them to see if they're notable and give a balanced view of any notable good or bad things they've produced. 66.102.83.61 (talk) 00:34, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Tell your tutor that local businesses are usually not notable enough to be on the mainspace, and keep that in mind next time they plan a project like this. At the meantime however, you can move the whole page onto your own space (as a subpage). In that case, you can have a page on Wikipedia, thus satisfy your assignment criteria. Kinkreet~&#9829;moshi moshi&#9829;~ 11:59, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jack Perry
Hello,

This article has been stuck in second review for several days. The first review happened in a matter of hours. Is it still awaiting review or was there an erro when it was submitted the second time?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.61.157.220 (talk) 22:52, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The current backlog is eight days (there are submissions from April 30 still waiting for a reviewer to get to them). Your article is still awaiting review, with 450 others ahead of you. 66.102.83.61 (talk) 00:42, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ Pol430 talk to me 20:35, 9 May 2012 (UTC)