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= November 24 =

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Branko
I'll like to make the title of this page: Branko (filmmaker) Can anyone make this change? Thank You. Brankoab (talk) 04:54, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


 * You have done so, but the article's sources are still insufficient. For example, neither confirms Romero's previous jobs, his books or his other documentaries. While his 2012 documentary seems notable, there's no indication Branko himself is. Huon (talk) 10:31, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Review of User:Garcia-fm/sandbox
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Anthony Pym Is it the page on the right place or do I need to move it somewhere else (or do somtheing else) so that it can be reviewed and published? Please let me know if at all possible at [mail address redacted - Huon]

Garcia-FM 11:08, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Anthony Pym is indeed the preferred place for drafts awaiting review; I moved it there.
 * I haven't checked the draft in detail, but at a glance it seemed heavily based on primary sources such as Pym's own publications or his university's. Wikipedia content should be based on reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The draft does cite a few of those; I'd suggest emphasizing them and de-emphasizing Pym's own works. Huon (talk) 12:02, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kenneth M. Lewis
Hello and thanks everyone for helping me with this article.

I´ve attached 2 references from a Norwegian newspapaer in my new submission. Here you find the translations in case you need to read the content.

Reagrding Article ref. 2 Dagbaldet.no

Great Sales in USA Lørenskog duo Marion and Marit got a cannon start to their American pop-adventure.

The duo's single "Do not Say You Love Me" is pre-sold for an astonishing 400,000 copies. Meanwhile, M2M, Lørenskog girls Marit Larsen (16) and Marion Raven (15), have praised the industry bible Billboard and have beeb helped by Abba-guru Benny Andersson.

- They've got an incredible start. A pre-sales of 400,000 single discs are insane even for an established artist over here, says Jim Welsh at Atlantic Records in New York.

Atlantic record Marit and Marion signed a contract with Warner Bros.-owned Atlantic last summer. Since then they have been working overtime, with such Backstreet Boys-producer Max Martin and the Spice Girls-songwriter Matt Rowe. The first single "Do not Say You Love Me," which Larsen and Raven wrote with producer Jimmy Bralower, landed in American record stores yesterday. At the same time it goes like a rocket up U.S. radio lists. 73 leading popstasjoner picked up the track in the first week.

- The Atlantic's 50-year history has no onset artist gone on so many radio stations in its first week, said the Welsh typical American platebransjevis.

"Do not Say You Love Me" fronts also the soundtrack for the new animated youth film "Pokeman". The soundtrack also includes songs from established stars like Christina Aguilera, B * witched, Aaron Carter, Britney Spears, Baby Spice Emma Bunton, but it is M2Ms song that is picked as the first single.

Benny on accordion This week presents the leading music industry magazine Billboard M2M as a "European teenage dream." Meanwhile, the girls' debut single reviewer praised by the magazine. Billboard reviewer thinks the girls have a more mature sound compared to their young age, and the single is getting kudos for its catchy chorus, youthful vocals and his humorous production. The conclusion from Billboard is "one of the fall's first big hits."

Girls' debut album "Shades of Purple" is released 25th January in USA. Two of the songs are produced by the Norwegian producers who discovered the pair Marit and Marion in 1995, Kenneth M. Lewis and Kai Robøle. On one of these two, "Pretty Boy", plays Abbas Benny Anderssson accordion.

Yep, he persuaded producer Max Martin to be with, grinning a delighted Jim Welsh Atlantic Records. _____________________________

Article ref. 3 Dagbaldet.no

The record deal is in the bag, and the songs are ready. Only band missing. - We will replace these dolls with two tough girls of flesh and blood - guaranteeing a hectic period of great launch in the U.S., says Kai Robøle and Kenneth Lewis at Waterfall Studio.

In the picture GIRLS WANTED:-We want smart, brave girls who can sing aged 17 to 23 years. We promise you a record deal and international platelansering, says Kai Robøle and Kenneth Lewis to Waterfall Studio.

This is a story from backward countries, because here everything happens in the reverse feeling: First came the record contract, then the tracks were written - but the band is missing.

- Yes, it's true. And we are in a hurry. Therefore, we encourage young girls to get in touch with us, says Robøle and Lewis.

It started when a major label in the U.S. contacted Waterfall Studio Grünerløkka in Oslo wanting them to create a kind Abba band.

Robøle and Lewis have written suitable tunes. Two boys have already been picked out, but the girls are missing.

- We need help from the newspaper and the public to find two girls. It is not with big tits and blonde hair. You have to be tough, having bones in her nose and could sing - and to dance and play.

Not sugar sweet The style of music is not Sweetened and glossy. The band record company want to play pop, but with traditional rock instrumentation.

- More Hanson and Abba than Aqua, says Robøle.

- USA missing band concept that we have more of in Europe. The record company wants the kind of two girls & two boys-band - with Norwegian or Scandinavian artists. We have been promised huge international record marked space, with the U.S. first, says Lewis.

Waterfall may initially not guarantee wealth, but the advance backing of the recording, for both producer and artist are in millons.

- The record will be launched next spring, so we are in a hurry. We itchy hands after getting started and hoping for quick contact. Our dream girls are like No Doubt and Garbage singers.

Hard toil Many people dream of becoming artists and pop stars. Most fail, perhaps after many years of toil and sweat - and bad advice.

- Here you come to the set table. It is a tough and tiring period before the band, and no one will have time for either work or school.

The recordings will take place in Oslo and New York. When the record is clear, it is hard promotion.

Lewis and Robøle are the talentscouts who made sure to give Babel Fish, M2M (Marit and Marion) and Midnight Sons million contracts in the U.S. Oslocat (talk) 16:20, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Here at the help desk the article translations aren't all that helpful. The first one hardly mentions Lewis anyway; the other is better, but on its own it's still not enough to establish Lewis' notability. Huon (talk) 19:25, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Review of User:FLYING HOOFS/THE WORLD&
I SUBMITTED AN ARTICLE FOR REVIEW TODAY TITLED "THE WORLD'S OLDEST CONCERT PROMOTER" AND I SELECTED A PICTURE AND UPLOADED TO COMMONS BUT I DON'T SEE IT ON MY ARTICLE I CREATED. DOES THE ARTICLE NEED REVIEW AND APPROVAL BEFORE PICTURE CAN GO UP? FLYING HOOFS (talk) 18:45, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


 * The picture tutorial explains how to add an uploaded image to an article. I couldn't find your image on the Commons, though. You apparently didn't upload it as commons:User:FLYING HOOFS.
 * However, what the draft needs most is not an image but better references. Firstly, you should use inline citations and footnotes to clarify which of the sources supports which of the draft's statements.
 * Secondly, "news footage of the concerts over the years" is so vague it's useless. TV news coverage is always problematic because our readers cannot just re-watch old broadcasts (unlike old newspapers which usually get archived in libraries). But without even a date it's completely impossible to find the relevant broadcasts in the first place. Similarly, I expect the Peoria Journal Star didn't publish just a single issue in February 1992. Please provide the exact publication date and a page number so readers trying to look up the source won't have to read an entire month's worth of old newspapers. YouTube is not a reliable source in the first place, and I doubt the McLean County Nursing Home Newsletter is either - it's probably not subject to editorial oversight nor known for fact-checking.
 * Thirdly, I doubt any reliable sources discuss how much Campbell loves her grandchildren, and the claim that she is "simply the best mother, grandmother, great-grandmother, great-great-grandmother, friend, and concert promoter" is a personal opinion that would require not just a reliable source, but attribution to that source: "Sociologist John Doe called Campbell 'the best mother, grandmother, great-grandmother and great-great-grandmother'."
 * In summary, there may be enough news coverage to write a short article on Campbell, but the current draft would have to be rewritten significantly. Huon (talk) 19:25, 24 November 2012 (UTC)