Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2012 October 15

= October 15 =

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Arifin Shuvoo
ok understood, can i provide links to local bengali papers? and i have no reords of the other interviews i have seen and heard on the tv. help me make this article informative, please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Commongirl (talk • contribs) 04:08, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

i want to submit this article and would appreciate help regarding this. all i know about this actor is from various interviews in local papers and tv. i want this article to be informative. and i am sure these information provided are authentic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Commongirl (talk • contribs) 09:24, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Then you'll have to provide those local papers as sources. Right now the draft and its sources don't have much to do with each other. None of the sources gives his date of birth or discusses his youth and education. None of them says he came to Dhaka in 2001 - one says he started his career in 2002, which isn't part of the draft. No source mentions Radio Foorti or discusses Shuvoo's "husky voice". Almost the only fact mentioned in both the draft and the sources is the critical acclaim Shuvoo received for Lilaboti. But Wikipedia content must be verifiable from reliable sources that are independent of the subject. As the reviewer said, Shuvoo is probably notable enough to have an article, but this draft either needs much better sources that actually confirm what the draft says, or the unverifiable parts must be removed. This is even more important for biographies of living persons than for other articles; you should use inline citations and footnotes to clarify which source confirms which of the article's statements. See also WP:Referencing for beginners. Huon (talk) 13:41, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Justin C. Hamilton (Basketball)
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Justin C. Hamilton (Basketball)

(Iknowball 09:35, 15 October 2012 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iknowball (talk • contribs)


 * While Hamilton may pass the bars set by our notability guidelines, especially WP:ATHLETE, the draft currently is not sufficiently supported by reliable sources. Much of the content cannot be verified. Take for example this statement: "Considered one of the top perimeter defenders [...]" - says who? You should use inline citations and footnotes to clarify which source supports which of the article's statements; see also WP:Referencing for beginners. The newspaper articles in the "articles" section are somewhat better sources than the statistics websites in the "references" section (for example because they have editorial oversight), but on the other hand some of them mention Hamilton only in passing without providing any details. Huon (talk) 14:11, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Review of Chirag Paswan
Chirag Paswan is all set to make his Bollywood debut in a romantic drama opposite not one but three leading ladies in One & Only. Ram Vilas Paswan's son was introduced to the media two years back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chirag paswan (talk • contribs) 13:10, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * This is the help desk for questions about submissions to the Articles for Creation project. You need to wait until other people write about you in reliable sources, which prompts somebody else to create the article. Don't create articles about yourself - it can backfire on you. -- Ritchie333 (talk)  (cont)   13:16, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It would appear that a prior article was attempted on this topic and nominated for deletion with the rationale "Fails WP:NACTOR which requires "significant roles in multiple notable films" for notability of an actor. It might be too soon for an article this early in his career. Alternatively, merge or redirect to Miley naa Miley hum. Muhandes (talk) 09:33, 17 November 2011 (UTC)". As this was less than a year ago, and the only change in circumstances is a proposed film project which has not yet been released, it is WP:TOOSOON and any recreation of the same page would likely be speedily deleted. K7L (talk) 13:28, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bonnie Burnham
Hi Wikipedians,

My first attempt at creating an article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bonnie Burnham was rejected due to being not adequately supported by reliable sources. However, when I click the numbers 1 and 2 in the References list, they don't link anywhere. Thus, I am wondering if the sources were truly not reliable, or simply not accessible, and if so, how might I fix my coding so that they are accessible?

Below are the sources I decided to use from a longer list. The first is a respected art journal, Apollo. Apollo has published learned articles from acknowledged experts that cover all aspects of the fine and decorative arts for almost 80 years. The second is a listing for Burnham from the US Dept of State filed in "Under Secretary for Political Affairs > Bureau of International Organization Affairs > U.S. National Commission for UNESCO". While I can see why Apollo might be somewhat questionable as a reliable source, I don't know why the US Dept of State would not considered reliable, that's why I am questioning this.

1. Nicholson, Louise (2005). "Personality of the year: Bonnie Burnham, President of the World Monuments Fund". Apollo

2. "Bonnie Burnham", US Department of State, July 12, 2012

If the references are, in fact, coded correctly, should I simply delete them both since they've been deemed 'inadequate' or should I add more? For example, perhaps the two books authored by Bonnie Burnham that show up first in the list when I click on "Find sources: "Bonnie Burnham" would help? I didn't put those in since they aren't third-party...

Thanks for helping! Very new to this.

Chiduan (talk) 17:09, 15 October 2012 (UTC)Chiduan


 * You had the &lt;ref> tags after the reflist, causing the information not to appear. The tags need to be in the article body, next to whatever statements the references are intended to support. I'm not going to comment as to whether the US government is a reliable source (they *did* lie to us about WMD in Iraq) or how much can be taken from www.wmf.org/content/staff (as WP:SELF) but usually it's best to add additional sources (like  or ) instead of merely removing sources. If a source is online, please do include a link to the original; it's not required but makes it far easier to verify. A web search appears to find sources easily, so she is likely notable and the topic is valid but we are (by design) overcautious regarding sources for every key statement about  a living person. K7L (talk) 17:22, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Lord&
Hi. I just wrote a quick draft of an article on Lord's paradox. It's highly notable, and I was surprised not to see it in Wikipedia already, but I don't have time to finish it. If you google the term Lord's paradox, you will find many sources. Would anyone like to finish it, please? Jerosenb (talk) 19:13, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The main issue is you don't provide clear context for what this actually is, in terms a layman could follow. I assume it has something to do with Statistics? I'm posting a request at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Statistics for help for you. MatthewVanitas (talk) 19:59, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Review of Articles for creation/Stellar Chemistry
Analysis of fibre content in fruit,procedures and its literature review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.184.98.133 (talk) 20:26, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * You've lost me here... what do foodstuffs have to do with the composition of astronomical objects (unless it's the moon and green cheese)? K7L (talk) 20:51, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Khachatur Sukiasyan
Submission was declined. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Khachatur Sukiasyan - This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified.

Please, help me, as I need to know what should I do so that it was not declined, what is the problem with it? I want to submit this article as I am sure theinformation provided is authentic, and the person about whom is this article has read it and there is no problem. Hasina10 (talk) 11:14, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the reviewer decided that all the sources, which relate to the Armenian government, were primary sources ie: directly related to Sukiasyan, which means it would not pass the general notability guidelines. However, some subjects are inherently notable, and in this case Sukiasyan might pass the inheritent notability guidelines for politicians by being Deputy of the National Assembly of Armenia. I don't personally know how important that is in Armenian politics though to be at the level to pass that guideline, but I'm sure that merely running for candidacy in Armenian Parliament, particularly if his entry was not recorded, won't pass those guidelines.
 * Your best bet is to find articles about Sukiasyan in national newspapers, and specifically cite his accomplishments to them. While we'd prefer sources in English, don't worry if you can only find them in Armenian, as that may still be acceptable. See Referencing for beginners for help in adding references to an article. Hope that all helps. -- Ritchie333 (talk)  (cont)   11:30, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your feedback. Hasina10 (talk) 13:20, 17 October 2012 (UTC)